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posted by martyb on Tuesday November 13 2018, @12:50PM   Printer-friendly
from the Room-101-dept dept.

As the days go by our hard won freedoms and liberty are slowly being eroded. In Europe a crushing blow has been made to freedom of speech with a European Court of Human Rights upholding a conviction for saying that the person known as Muhammad ten centuries ago was technically a paedophile based on information in historical texts. The statement was made in reference to Muhammad's marriage to a six year old child name called Aisha. The court found that “Presenting objects of religious worship in a provocative way capable of hurting the feelings of the followers of that religion could be conceived as a malicious violation of the spirit of tolerance, which was one of the bases of a democratic society.”. In giving its ruling that "Muhammad was not a worthy subject of worship" the court has additionally demonstrated a complete misunderstanding as to the religion involved which worships "Allah", a word meaning 'God', not 'Muhammad' who claimed to be a prophet of this god. Freedom of speech is dying.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @02:04PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @02:04PM (#761282)

    More to the point, the defendant claimed that Humammad was a pedophile *without* providing andy contextual details.

    "person X is a pedophile" requires some qualification

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @02:36PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 13 2018, @02:36PM (#761298)

    They should learn how to search the internet for information. Here is a start.

    Book 008, Number 3309:

            'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.

    Sahih Muslim, Book 8, chapter 10, verse 3309-3311

    Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

    Sunan Nasa'i: Bukhari vol.5 book 58, no.236 p.153 & no. 234 p.152

    Sunan Ibni Majah, Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1877

    Biography of Muhammad, Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham, translated by A Guillaume, page 792

    AL-TABAR, Hadith IX:131

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Responses_to_Apologetics_-_Muhammad_and_Aisha [wikiislam.net]

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 13 2018, @10:35PM (1 child)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 13 2018, @10:35PM (#761485) Journal

    No, it absolutely does not when it is a fact.

    "Ted Bundy was a serial killer." That is a cold, hard fact and stands alone. Nobody is required to give it any context.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14 2018, @12:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14 2018, @12:20PM (#761706)

      <sarcasm>Who?
      Is this the guy who founded Bundy Rum? He was a killer? With what? A glass bottle?</sarcasm>

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 15 2018, @07:27PM

    "person X is a pedophile" requires some qualification

    No, just a bullet between the eyes.

    Word is though, his child bride was a twenty-something widow and declared to be a child over a hundred years later on the grounds of it wouldn't do to have their prophet getting someone's sloppy seconds.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.