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posted by LaminatorX on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the Boot-him?-I-just-met-him! dept.

jbernardo writes:

"Having had several issues with systemd, and really not liking the philosophy behind it, I am looking into alternatives. I really prefer something that follows the Unix philosophy of using small, focused, and independent tools, with a clear interface. Unfortunately, my favourite distro, Arch Linux, is very much pro-systemd, and a discussion of alternatives is liable to get you banned for a month from their forums. There is an effort to support openrc, but it is still in its infancy and without much support.

So, what are the alternatives, besides Gentoo? Preferably binary... I'd rather have something like arch, with quick updates, cutting edge, but I've already used a lot in the past Mandrake, RedHat, SourceMage, Debian, Kubuntu, and so on, so the package format or the package management differences don't scare me."

[ED Note: I'm imagining FreeBSD sitting in the room with the all the Linux distros he mentioned being utterly ignored like Canada in Hetalia.]

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:34PM (#7337)

    Don't you even notice that your argument applies to Slashdot Beta exactly?
    And nevertheless, you are here. On a site built on nothing but "legacy technology". Instead of http://beta.slashdot.org/ [slashdot.org] with "modern techniques". "It's called progress", isn't it? ;-)

    It's really funny, but rather hypocritical.

  • (Score: 1) by fbscarel on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:19PM

    by fbscarel (2358) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:19PM (#7378)

    Agreed. Being new for the sake of being new has no purpose.
    Here we are, on SoylentNews, are we not?

  • (Score: 0) by Grishnakh on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:00PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:00PM (#7474)

    Slashdot Beta removes tons of useful features, in favor of trendy (aka ugly) new visual design. systemd has more features than other init systems. So it's quite the opposite.

    As for "legacy technology" vs. "modern techniques", systemd is written in good old-fashioned C, just like Unix and Linux, not some trendy new language-of-the-week.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:14PM (#7528)

      Things which "have more features" tend to serve as drop-in replacements for whatever they're designed to replace, and to outcompete them on the merits.

      Systemd isn't noted for being capable of either. So is more properly defined as having *different* features.

      Which is precisely the problem. Not everyone likes the new featureset better than the present one, and some like being deprived of choice even less.

  • (Score: 0) by chris.alex.thomas on Wednesday March 19 2014, @02:36PM

    by chris.alex.thomas (2331) on Wednesday March 19 2014, @02:36PM (#18559)

    oh no, I agree with you, I wouldn't use a codebase like this for a modern website, I'd start again and write something which solved those problems in a better fashion, but also let other people have their opinion on the templates that run the website, the data layer is one thing, but I dont see why they screwed up the templates so badly.

    also, soylent news's interface is very old, antique and pretty hideous

    so it's not hypocritcal at all, I have the same opinion about both, they are both old, out of date, solving problems that no longer exist and there are better solutions to be found.

    (sorry, I didnt see your reply until now, so thats why it's a little bit late)