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posted by martyb on Sunday March 31 2019, @12:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the be-sure-to-FLOSS-twice-a-day dept.

https://fossforce.com/2019/03/foss-on-the-road-to-nowhere/

The FSF and Linux Foundation are not the only organizations that could assume the moral leadership of FOSS. practices the same ideals that existed in FOSS twenty years ago. Similarly, after years of inactivity, the Open Source Initiative (OSI) has been struggling recently to again be relevant. However, both have a long way to ago before they can speak for the majority of FOSS, assuming they would care to.

Maybe the loss of a single direction is a sign of the success of FOSS. Maybe shared ideals can only exist at a certain point in a movement's development, and to wish otherwise is only meaningless nostalgia. Yet, despite the success of FOSS, today it has only partly transformed technology and business, and much remains to do. Unless we decide to content ourselves with what has already been done, I think that a sense of meaning — of making a difference — is more useful than seeing FOSS as nothing more than a shorter time to market.


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  • (Score: 2) by choose another one on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:16AM (3 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:16AM (#822680)

    F is for Free, might not work, might be shit, might be vapourware forever

    OSS is for Open, collaborative development as a better way to produce shit that works

    That's it, it's always been that way.

    Linux (the kernel) has always been that way - Linus thought the GPL was a useful licence to use for collaborative development, he picked it (as I understand it) because it was right _practically_, not for ideological reasons. Linux hasn't gone GPLv3. Linux has GPL exceptions where needed (binary kernel modules). etc.

    OSS has always been that way since ESR wrote Cathedral and Bazaar - some people still seem to think the Cathedral was proprietary, it wasn't, it was Free, specifically FSF/GNU.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:56AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:56AM (#822684)

    some people still seem to think the Cathedral was proprietary, it wasn't, it was Free, specifically FSF/GNU.

    The Cathedral and the Bazaar was also about how things were developed. Cathedral software was build by a select group until it was complete and released, Bazaar was more about continous development (adding feature, release, bugfixes and more features, release, etc).

    • (Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:15PM

      by Dr Spin (5239) on Sunday March 31 2019, @09:15PM (#822845)

      Cathedral software was build by a select group until it was complete and released, Bazaar was more about continous development

      No software is ever complete. Quite a lot of it appears to escape, rather than be released.

      The BSDs are cathedral in that there is quality control and release engineering, centrally controlled, for the entire product.

      Linux distros are often just bizarre (have systemd - won't travel).

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Bot on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:25AM

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday March 31 2019, @11:25AM (#822693) Journal

    > some people still seem to think the Cathedral was proprietary, it wasn't, it was Free, specifically FSF/GNU
    oh.
    Anyway I started having problems with the cathedral and the bazaar.

    The cathedral gave us systemd and the bazaar gave us npm.

    I would say, to stay in the metaphor, that the cathedral may be built by a malevolent masonic lodge, and that the bazaar may be full of pickpockets.

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