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posted by LaminatorX on Tuesday August 19 2014, @08:40AM   Printer-friendly
from the wolf-in-sheep's-clothing dept.

Call it Adware, Malware, Spyware, Crapware, it's simply unwanted. Every non-technical relative I've ever talked to has toolbars they apparently can't see, apps running in the background, browser home pages set to Russian Google clones, and they have no idea how it got that way.

Read on to learn how they get that way.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Lagg on Tuesday August 19 2014, @10:34AM

    by Lagg (105) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @10:34AM (#82994) Homepage Journal

    Oh please, I quit my job and went into freelancing specifically because of this exact situation. I knew this starvation argument would come up (we need a new name for that, how about Glutton's Dilemma?). I may not like freelancing and I'm in poverty yeah but it beats being even more unhappy writing malware. That whole argument of "but if you quit you'll starve" is just such nonsense. Needing to eat does not excuse you from despicable behavior, nor does the simple fact that it's your job. If I were to have written DICE's malware that they used on sourceforge I seriously doubt "but it's okay Lagg, you need to eat" would be a consideration on anyone's mind. Especially when this stuff wrecks people's own systems and takes hours from their own work to fix it.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Subsentient on Tuesday August 19 2014, @11:06AM

    by Subsentient (1111) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @11:06AM (#82996) Homepage Journal

    I didn't like you when we first met, but I'm liking you more and more all the time.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19 2014, @11:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19 2014, @11:25AM (#83004)

    When standard business practice in your area is to not pay your bills until the company goes bankrupt, losing everything in your life might cause you a few problems.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by BradTheGeek on Tuesday August 19 2014, @12:30PM

    by BradTheGeek (450) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @12:30PM (#83029)

    It is not just a starvation argument, though to many that is very, very real. Some people just have no ethics or their morals are easily bought. Much of this is put together overseas anyway, but the people who should be prosecuted are the managers and owners of the overarching companies. Unfortunately they are most likely shells within shells with just a lawyer and a manager, and a fake phone number that routs to a hotel room in Delhi.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PinkyGigglebrain on Tuesday August 19 2014, @07:06PM

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @07:06PM (#83206)

    I'm glad you have the skill sets and experience to make it as a freelancer. Some of us are not as lucky, please try and understand that just because you can do something doesn't mean everyone else can. Did you know that the inability to intuitively understand that other people have different viewpoints is a sign of Autism?

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    • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Tuesday August 19 2014, @09:38PM

      by Lagg (105) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @09:38PM (#83260) Homepage Journal

      Did you know that essentially calling people retarded because they have a problem with "I was doing my job" as a license to be an ass is a cowardly and obvious lack-of-argument? I'm not special. Any programmer worth their salt can freelance. In fact I'd wager that there are people much better suited for it than I am because I tend to be slow due to being meticulous to a fault or experiencing burnout. Hell, any programmer that isn't worth their salt can freelance since I regularly play janitor duty cleaning up after people in india, nigeria or russia that hit the double whammy of both being incompetent freelancers and incompetent outsourcing. Either way though my experience isn't luck, it was accrued through years of learning and work. Don't try to attribute my skill to alignment of the cosmos in an attempt to make it seem like aforementioned asshats don't have a choice because that's just plain dishonest. It's also dishonest to twist it into me telling people explicitly to freelance, I only did it because there was nothing better at the time. I also live in a desert. In most cases there are going to be better companies that at the very least don't try to get their employees to write malware for them.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @12:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @12:34AM (#83314)

        You know that response pretty much confirms the diagnoses of an "inability to intuitively understand that other people have different viewpoints." Whether that is autism or not is another question.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 21 2014, @12:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 21 2014, @12:45AM (#83773)

      Did you know that the inability to intuitively understand that other people have different viewpoints is a sign of Autism?

      When you look/talk with someone, mentally slip into their shoes and ask youself as them 'What's in it for me?'. Once you detect the answer to that question and if their unspoken request/demand is unreasonable, politely excuse yourself and leave--you were about to be exploited. With practice, you can detect this via body language before the other person even opens their mouth....

      The 99%ers DON'T have a mountain of cash to live off of so they have to either:

      1) Cope and survive as best they can and as honorably as they can--always striving for 'equivalent exchange' (pay what they can / favor now for favor later) if they ask someone for help and voicing/expressing their genuine gratitude when others help them TRULY FOR FREE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO STRINGS ATTACHED!...

      2) Use guile, lies, and trickery to survive at all costs while exploiting anyone and everyone as needed as much as possible--treating them ultimately as clueless suckers or marks.

      This skill works wonderfully with any written text put out by a company of some sort if you are a 99%er and take to heart this simple axiom: WORK EQUALS MONEY EQUALS SURVIVAL!

      Once you realize that, you realize that businesses will do anything it takes to hire someone with recruitment ads like 'work for us and have fun and excitement!' Those are lies at worst and exaggerations at best. Employees are SPECIFICALLY hired to create more value for the company owners, stockholders (if any), and executive staff than is paid out to them in wages. The instant that is no longer the case, the employees are laid off or fired. As it is said, 'nothing personal--just business.' :P When you have extremely little/no money in most of the world, you are treated like trash, kept at arms length by other human beings higher up on the socioeconomic ladder than you, and constantly harassed by police for vagrancy when they see you because you (look like you) have no lasting/permanent place to stay off the streets out of their sight and the sights of the business owners who pay their salaries through taxes. This is the reason for all the 'no loitering/panhandling' laws/signs around the world. Business owners do whatever it takes to make consumers comfortable so they will spend money at their place of business. And thus the poor and needy are swept under a rug or run out of town to become someone else's problem.... :(

      If you are fortunate enough to do something you TRULY love, you will do it for free. You will even do it essentially for free when you are overworked and underpaid because you'd hate working at any other type of job. The cash-obsessed see people like this as clueless idiots. The ones who are 'in the know' and in such a situation accept that 'money isn't everything' and live their life the best they can WITHOUT trying to take advantage of someone in order to get it!

      In closing, this 'BS detector' is not a sign of Autism, it is a NECESSARY self-preservation skill required to SURVIVE in a world fueled by greed and fear....

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 23 2014, @07:48AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 23 2014, @07:48AM (#84622)

    Well first, I thought that starvation argument was thrown to justify grocery store theft.

    Second, if it ever comes down to "my survival" versus "your survival", I'll instantly choose "my survival". Sorry about that. The objective of ehtics, society, the legal system and other such devices is to gauge the odds so that "beneficial for me" and "beneficial for everyone in general" will align. When people need to commit despicable acts, the proper course is to remove that need. Getting angry about people not being completely altruistic is like getting angry at volcanoes or gravity.