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posted by martyb on Tuesday December 03 2019, @11:50PM   Printer-friendly

Amazon Announces Graviton2 SoC Along With New AWS Instances: 64-Core Arm With Large Performance Uplifts

The new Graviton2 SoC is a custom design by Amazon's own in-house silicon design teams and is a successor to the first-generation Graviton chip. The new chip quadruples the core count from 16 cores to 64 cores and employs Arm's newest Neoverse N1 cores. Amazon is using the highest performance configuration available, with 1MB L2 caches per core, with all 64 cores connected by a mesh fabric supporting 2TB/s aggregate bandwidth as well as integrating 32MB of L3 cache.

Amazon claims the new Graviton2 chip is[sic] can deliver up to 7x higher performance than the first generation based A1 instances in total across all cores, up to 2x the performance per core, and delivers memory access speed of up to 5x compared to its predecessor. The chip comes in at a massive 30B transistors on a 7nm manufacturing node - if Amazon is using similar high density libraries to mobile chips (they have no reason to use HPC libraries), then I estimate the chip to fall around 300-350mm² if I was forced to put out a figure.

The memory subsystem of the new chip is supported by 8 DDR4-3200 channels with support for hardware AES256 memory encryption. Peripherals of the system are supported by 64 PCIe4 lanes.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Snotnose on Wednesday December 04 2019, @12:45AM (8 children)

    by Snotnose (1623) on Wednesday December 04 2019, @12:45AM (#927911)

    Amazon is making server chips. They don't need floating point, that's a big chunk of silicon. They don't need default graphics for those cheapskates that are trying to avoid buying a $500 graphics card, that's a huge chunk of silicon. Their cores don't need to talk to each other so much, so they are saving a hell of a lot on multi-core interconnects. They don't care so much about other threads sniffing cryptographic keys, so instruction pipelines et all can go full speed.

    Not having a problem seeing how Amazon's custom built chips can give Intel's general purpose chips a good ass whipping. In fact, it's pretty much a textbook case of why you make custom silicon.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:39AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:39AM (#927929) Journal

      https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/12/announcing-new-amazon-ec2-m6g-c6g-and-r6g-instances-powered-by-next-generation-arm-based-aws-graviton2-processors/ [amazon.com]

      AWS Graviton2 processors deliver several performance optimizations over the first generation AWS Graviton processors such as 7x performance, 4x the number of compute cores, 2x larger private caches per core, 5x faster memory, and 2x faster floating-point performance per core.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by sgleysti on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:42AM (1 child)

      by sgleysti (56) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:42AM (#927932)

      Their cores don't need to talk to each other so much, so they are saving a hell of a lot on multi-core interconnects.

      vs.

      ...with all 64 cores connected by a mesh fabric supporting 2TB/s aggregate bandwidth...

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:46AM (#927935)

      Almost everything in this post is wrong, I'll add to the others that have been pointed out and note that giving an ass whipping to Intel's chips is not interesting. AMD Epyc cpus are the benchmark now.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @04:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @04:11AM (#927982)

      They don't care so much about other threads sniffing cryptographic keys

      Amazon server chips go into AWS, where everybody's code runs, including amazon's - so they care.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday December 06 2019, @12:10AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday December 06 2019, @12:10AM (#928671) Journal

      Any follow-up on these guesses?

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    • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Friday December 06 2019, @12:40AM

      by Snotnose (1623) on Friday December 06 2019, @12:40AM (#928680)

      The dozen or so followups said exactly how I was wrong in this post. Yet I'm still insightful?

      sigh

      Those followups reminded me I retired 10 years ago and I'm not exactly up to date anymore. Which is sad, I bought a TRS-80 in '78 and grew up with personal computing, making my living with embedded software.

      I'm old. At least I still have a warm lap for a cat to curl up in.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Wednesday December 04 2019, @02:53AM (4 children)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Wednesday December 04 2019, @02:53AM (#927952)

    What undocumented data collection features are baked into the silicon?

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday December 04 2019, @08:59AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday December 04 2019, @08:59AM (#928028) Journal

      These chips are running at Amazon... you don't even have physical access.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:26PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 04 2019, @01:26PM (#928093)

      1-Click with new and improved cyber blockchain AI, is now baked into the silicon. Every time you click your mouse, type on your keyboard, or tap on a mobile device, a portion of your money is transferred directly from your bank account or cryptowallet directly into Amazon's.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 05 2019, @02:20AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 05 2019, @02:20AM (#928317)

        cyber blockchain AI, is now baked into the silico

        Source? This is what I have been looking for but do not see it in TFA.

        • (Score: 2) by Walzmyn on Friday December 06 2019, @02:36PM

          by Walzmyn (987) on Friday December 06 2019, @02:36PM (#928840)

          [insert gif of joke flying over stick figure]

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