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posted by martyb on Tuesday September 16 2014, @12:58PM   Printer-friendly
from the mod-me-up! dept.

An article posted by Cory Doctorow on Boing Boing has interesting insight into moderation:

A study [PDF] published in a journal of the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence found that sites that have a "downvote" button to punish bad comments lock the downvoted users into spirals of ever-more-prolific, ever-lower-quality posting due to a perception of having been martyred by the downvoters.

Cory continues: What's more, positive attention for writing good posts acts as less of an incentive to write more good stuff than the incentive to write bad stuff that's produced by negative attention.

How Community Feedback Shapes User Behavior [Justin Cheng, Cristian Danescu-Niculescu-Mizil, Jure Leskovec]

Why Reddit sucks: some scientific evidence [Henry Farrell/Washington Post]

So... do you downvote? if so, why? Does this article make you reconsider your down-modding?

[Editor's note: I offer for your consideration and commentary our very own SoylentNews Moderation FAQ.]

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 16 2014, @01:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 16 2014, @01:09PM (#93971)

    Where's the lentils poster

    Starting Score:    0  points
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    Extra 'Insightful' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: 1) by VLM on Tuesday September 16 2014, @01:53PM

    by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 16 2014, @01:53PM (#94000)

    We could play this game all day, I kinda like it. I propose another counterexamples. "that beta site" vs the GNAA

    On his side, I think stack exchange in general is the premiere example of toxic downvoting, much better than throwing in a reddit to be trendy.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Hairyfeet on Tuesday September 16 2014, @09:14PM

      by Hairyfeet (75) <> on Tuesday September 16 2014, @09:14PM (#94236) Journal

      I have downvoted and here is why..when the poster is obviously trolling or refusing requests for citations and instead returning with strawmen and logic fallacies, or are obviously trying to derail a thread as we saw on slash all the time with post after post of you are lynching negroes [] then yes I WILL mod down, because the entire appeal of a site like this is discussions and when you trash the discussions on purpose you are ruining the site.

      Now this does NOT mean downvoting people you disagree with, in fact I have upvoted people whom I thought were completely full of shit because they made a good concise argument for their position and even though I don't agree with their position I am 1000% for freedom of speech and exchange of ideas so I'm gonna upmod those that make their case well, even if I don't agree with their position. Sadly we have seen how badly mods can be abused here the other day with the Brown article, that frankly shouldn't have been here in the first place as it was HuffyPo flamebait, but in that article EVERYBODY that didn't follow the left wing groupthink, hell even those that simply asked for more details because they hadn't kept up with the story? INSTANT MODBOMBING. It was like something off of HuffyPo or FauxNews where you had to stick to the party line no matter what or be attacked and it was frankly disgusting and just shows why those kinds of articles have no place here.

      But at the end of the day downmods, when vetted by a working metamod system or by readers being diligent by undoing bad mods, which frankly I've done more times that I can count, do serve a VERY important purpose, they keep the threads from devolving into flamefests or circle jerk karma whoring. Just look at the OS articles on the green site for why that's bad, they USED to have in depth discussions about the OSes, the positives and negatives of changes, hell there was once a 300 post thread about fricking FILE SYSTEMS and what advantages each brought when compared to the Now its all flag waving and flame fests, that's it. You'll see a bottom of the thread post copypasta'd upthread for karma whoring, you'll see a million shills, trolls, vampires [] thrown at anybody that doesn't jump on the bandwagon, its just a nasty unhealthy cesspool. I don't know about everybody else but I came here in hopes of getting away from that HuffyPo flamebaits and bandwagon hopping and downmods at least help weed out the worst of the worst...or do we really want this site to have threads with 300 "CleanMyPC" posts in a row, followed by such 'insightful" retorts as "you must be a nigger" and "get lost raghead, go man a helpdesk"?

      ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
  • (Score: 1) by lentilsoup on Tuesday September 16 2014, @04:00PM

    by lentilsoup (4717) on Tuesday September 16 2014, @04:00PM (#94083)

    I've just poured hot lentils down my pants and it feels great!

    There are no legumes but lentils, and soy is their condiment.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 16 2014, @09:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 16 2014, @09:13PM (#94235)

    I came to this thread hoping to get a chance to blow all my mod points on negative mods just to prove a point.

    Instead I mod you up. Well done sir.