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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday September 26 2020, @08:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the state-of-the-art dept.

Co-founder of Netscape (formerly Mosaic Communications Corporation) and of, Jamie Zawinski, has some brief comments about the current situation with Mozilla and its browser.

Back to Mozilla -- in my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

  1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
  2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
  3. There is no 3.

And they just completely threw in the towel on standards when they grabbed their ankles and allowed W3C to add DRM. At this point, I assume Mozilla's voice on the standards committees has all the world-trembling gravitas of "EFF writes amicus brief."

By the way, one dynamic that the cited article missed is that a huge part of the reason for Google's "investment" in Mozilla was not just to drive search traffic -- it was antitrust insurance. Mozilla continuing to exist made Chrome not be the only remaining web browser, and that kept certain wolves at bay.

Google has decided that they don't need to buy antitrust insurance any more. Wonder why.

Jamie is responding to the summary of the current situation with Mozilla outlined by software engineer Cal Paterson who points out that Firefox usage is down 85% despite Mozilla's top exec pay having gone up 400%.

One of the most popular and most intuitive ways to evaluate an NGO is to judge how much of their spending is on their programme of works (or "mission") and how much is on other things, like administration and fundraising. If you give money to a charity for feeding people in the third world you hope that most of the money you give them goes on food - and not, for example, on company cars for head office staff.

Mozilla looks bad when considered in this light. Fully 30% of all expenditure goes on administration. Charity Navigator, an organisation that measures NGO effectiveness, would give them zero out of ten on the relevant metric. For context, to achieve 5/10 on that measure Mozilla admin would need to be under 25% of spending and, for 10/10, under 15%.

(2020) Mozilla Lays Off 250, Including Entire Threat Management Team
(2020) Firefox Browser Use Drops as Mozilla's Worst Microsoft Edge Fears Come True
(2020) The Web Is Now Too Complex To Allow The Creation of New Browsers
(2019) The Future of Browsers

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 26 2020, @10:57PM (3 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 26 2020, @10:57PM (#1057406) Journal

    A.K.A. "it's the extensions, stupid." I've been running Falkon as much as possible but still need to fall back on Firefox for some sites like reddit, probably because I lock Falkon down pretty hard and its adblocking/scriptblocking seems a bit hamhanded.

    If Falkon wants to succeed, it should focus on porting uBlock Origin, PrivacyBadger, and the DuckDuckGo extension to itself, and ideally bundle these with it. This would probably make it usable for 99%+ of cases.

    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @11:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 26 2020, @11:09PM (#1057413)

    Jesus loves you, you know.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:37AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:37AM (#1057531)

    Falkon wraps Chromium, that is embracing monoculture. They will be lucky if they do not have to fork Chromium or accept whatever crap Google pushes that "by change, word" makes things hard or impossible.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @06:03AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @06:03AM (#1057536)

      They can't fork Chromium, they can't even properly audit it. The codebase is simply too large and too convoluted, and the 'standards' are changing too fast, for anything other than a major corporation to keep up. Which is the point. Chrome is IE6 all over again, only with an actual budget to keep them ahead of everyone else.