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posted by martyb on Wednesday October 28 2020, @07:27PM   Printer-friendly

RIAA Sued By YouTube-Ripping Site Over DMCA Anti-Circumvention Notices

A company operating a YouTube-ripping platform has sued the RIAA for sending "abusive" DMCA anti-circumvention notices to Google. According to the complaint and contrary to the RIAA's claims, the Yout service does not "descramble, decrypt, avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair" YouTube's rolling cipher technology.

Last Friday, the RIAA caused [outrage] on the Internet when it filed a complaint that took down the open source software YouTube-DL from Github.

According to the RIAA, the "clear purpose" of YouTube-DL was to "circumvent the technological protection measures used by authorized streaming services such as YouTube" and "reproduce and distribute music videos and sound recordings owned by our member companies without authorization for such use."

As the debate and controversy over the complaint rages on, a company based in the US that operates a YouTube-ripping platform has filed a lawsuit alleging that similar complaints, filed by the RIAA with Google, have caused its business great damage.

RIAA's YouTube-DL Takedown Ticks Off Developers and GitHub's CEO

An RIAA takedown request, which removed the YouTube-DL repository from GitHub, has ticked off developers and GitHub's CEO. Numerous people responded by copying and republishing the contested code, including in some quite clever ways. Meanwhile, GitHub's CEO is "annoyed" as well, offering help to get the repo reinstated.

Yout v. RIAA complaint.

Previously: GitHub has Received a DMCA Takedown from RIAA for youtube-dl


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 28 2020, @07:49PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 28 2020, @07:49PM (#1070057)

    No, they won't be doing anything. This takedown is just collateral damage in the bigger censorship wars raging right now. Everyone got in the habit of anytime they saw something "interesting" on YouTube they hit it with Youtube-dl before even watching it, since so many "interesting" videos would disappear mid viewing. So of course it has to go. You can't edit history if people can hold a copy of things offline and repost it to bitchute.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by RamiK on Wednesday October 28 2020, @08:30PM

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday October 28 2020, @08:30PM (#1070080)

    It's more likely the RIAA is just establishing some usage statistics regarding stream rippers to in response to Tofig Kurbanov's case ruling:

    The stay request’s memorandum states at the outset that 90 percent of the stream-ripping sites’ traffic comes from users based outside the States; the platforms attracted “well over 300 million visitors” between October of 2017 and September of 2018, per a previous filing.

    ( https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2020/09/21/tofig-kurbanov-riaa-lawsuit/ [digitalmusicnews.com] )

    That is, they're trying to find a usage baseline by taking down all the rippers they can find for a few days to justify that ass-pulled 90% claim. Of course, they'll fail to do so and will naturally hide/manipulate the stats and pretend none of this is related... Regardless, the timing is very likely just them rushing to find/cook some numbers since Kurbanov is similarly rushing through to file his supreme appeal.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @01:46AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @01:46AM (#1070186)

    This takedown is just collateral damage in the bigger censorship wars raging right now.

    Which are themselves the -- inevitable -- result of increasing centralization and corporate mono-ownership of the internet.
    If all of this was happenning, even 10 years ago, all of the companies involved would be a luaghing stock and their competitors would be making hay by promising more freedom and less drama.
    But the competitors have all been bought up, or squeezed out, or shut down. There are perhaps only a dozen sites and less companies who matter now, and the inevitable result was always going to be loss of freedoms and ever more blatant censorship.

    The solution is simple: anti-trust. Break up the big social media companies -- github included. Force them to open up their protocols and break the network effect. See how quick they are to takedown, censor, or ban when people really can move elsewhere. We can keep section 230 and bring back a competative internet by just breaking up the monopolies that have grown over the last 15 years, like we do in every other industry. Or used to do.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @01:24PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @01:24PM (#1070343)

      It is interesting how the Right is so upset by this censorship, but it is their "market will correct itself" policies that led directly to it.

      Personally, I think they wouldn't be as upset if it was "the other" that was being censored, but since it is "them" it MUST be stopped.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @06:39PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @06:39PM (#1070482)

        "the Right is so upset by this censorship, but it is their "market will correct itself" policies that led directly to it."

        uhh, nopers, fucktard! registering your business with the government like a slave, funding the scum at the IRS and all the other extortion schemes, following all regulations, etc. is not the Free Market. In a *Free Market* (right or left. capitalist or not) there is competition. None of this state socialism, crony capitalism and fascism is Free Market.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @11:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 29 2020, @11:03PM (#1070554)

        It is interesting how the Right is so upset by this censorship, but it is their "market will correct itself" policies that led directly to it.

        No, it is the primarily Dem-promoted expansion of copyrights and patents beyond all limits of sanity, that led directly to it.
        Market cannot correct itself when the state is granting millions of monopolies per year; market cannot even survive the accumulation of those things. Now you are trying to blame the other side for the destruction?
        https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/h_counts.htm [uspto.gov]
        https://www.copyright.gov/history/annual_reports.html [copyright.gov]
        This virus was not quarantined in time, now observe the raging infection with its exponent.