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Debian Jesse is going to have Gnome3 as the default desktop.
The desktop re-qualification page, used to help choose which desktop will be default, has in the Jesse version a weight for systemd integration, and of course only Gnome3 does it (at least for now). This will surely make the systemd/gnome3 fanbase happy, but possibly will make others unhappy, as it [may] be seen as another step towards mono-culture, until we soon end up with all distros being redhat clones.
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(Score: 1) by donjan on Thursday September 25 2014, @12:34AM
What we have here is a situation where the entire technical team (in this case more or less the entire community of Linux developers) is saying "no no no this is a terrible idea," and has completely logical, valid, rock-solid reasoning on their side, and they're getting a middle finger as the response.
I'm not a fan of systemd myself, but the quoted statement is false.
What we have is the vast majority of the "technical team" either agreeing with the proposed change or being indifferent to it. On the opposite side, a minority is saying "this is a terrible idea" and backing it up by some solid reasoning, but the problem is that too many of those people are armchair developers who push back for ideological/sentimental reasons like "one-task-per-binary-unix-philosophy", "RedHat-wants-to-dominate-all" and "I-dont-want-to-learn-journalctl-instead-of-using-grep".
While I happen to sympathise with all those reasons (especially the dislike of journalctl) and more importantly with criticism put forth by people like Rich Felker and John Vincent, you and I have to be fair and accept the validity of the pro-systemd reasoning. Which is more or less successful in rebutting technical critique while questioning the necessity of the ideological reasons (either as dogmatic, tinfoil-ish or plain lazy).
And there's the crucial point: we can't prove that systemd with all its advantages and drawbacks is not an improvement to sysvinit, we can only say that we don't like its flavour. But FOSS is the so often lauded do-ocracy, and so far sysvinit, OpenRC, Upstart, runit and others have apparently failed to deliver, which leaves the field to systemd.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 25 2014, @08:58AM
so far sysvinit, OpenRC, Upstart, runit and others have apparently failed to deliver, which leaves the field to systemd.
False.
"Failed to deliver?" Ha!
System D answers a question that most of us aren't/weren't ever asking. A vocal minority and their toadies waving around B.S. like "This prevents logfile tampering" is a sure admission that this project is a blemish on the face of society.