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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 10 2021, @12:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the this-is-infrastructure dept.

From Spiked:

If life ever returns to normal, one thing no one will miss from the lockdown era is the 'TV goldfish'. For over a year, we've watched the disembodied, pixelated faces of contributors to live TV mouth their words out of sync with their audio, gulping away as if in a private fish tank. This isn't the exception for internet video, it's the norm.

John Day is one of the internet's greybeard founding fathers. For a decade he has been advancing a set of improvements to the current mainstream internet protocols. His proposals – called RINA (Recursive Internetwork Architecture) – revisit and build on Louis Pouzin's founding concept of datagrams (data packets). Simplifying these features allowed the original inter-networking protocols (IP) to get out of the door in the 1980s and 1990s, and allowed for the rapid growth of the internet. But the current system we have – TCP/IP – is holding back new innovation.

See also: Internet outage illustrates lack of resilience at heart of critical services
The Guardian view on the internet outage: we need resilience, not just efficiency


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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @01:26PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @01:26PM (#1143871)

    No, TCP/IP, UDP/IP, ICMP, none of those protocols are the problem. You don't even fucking know what TCP/IP is. You don't even fucking know what DHCP is or ARP. Don't even fucking get me started. Well you got me started.

    The problem is called Skype. It's called Windows 10. Dump your fucking shit software stack. Get software that Just Works like GNU/Linux and XFCE.

    Oh yeah and while we're at it, get a real internet connection. You want video calls? You need decent upstream. You need a router that isn't a shit consumer NAT that needs to be rebooted every day. You don't need a ton of bandwidth, 30mbit symmetric is plenty. You don't need 100mbit or gbit.

    The solutions are out there, but you have to stop listening to marketers, and you have to tell the New York Times, WaPo, Slate, sometimes Salon, The Guardian, and Spike to take their incel shit (this is misandry, same as telling a woman she should get in the kitchen and make a sammich is misogyny, you are reducing the person to a sexual object and telling them to get back in their patriarchy assigned role) and RMS is transphobic shit and go fuck themselves if you want to find them.

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  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @01:40PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @01:40PM (#1143876)

    " You don't need a ton of bandwidth, 30mbit symmetric is plenty. You don't need 100mbit or gbit."
    if the real world where like the internet, people would have four-wheel drive ferraris with rocket boasters and go shopping by driving inside walmart (or watnot), saying "grab 4 cans of baked beans" and a robot arm would extend from the hood and pack 'em beans, whilst being bombarded by advertisment that promises the next ferrari is even better and faster at picking stuff from the aisles ... whilst the rest just use a trolly and curse that the top shelf is "robot-arm-accesible-only" ... and getting higher (read: more bloated)...

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:21PM (#1143886)

    The article is written for a general audience by Andrew Orlowski, [wikipedia.org] formerly of the Register. He famously coined the '00s phrase "linux crusties" to denigrate the FSF but would probably not unfairly slander RMS as you just did. On balance, it's Orlowski and not you with the opinion worth considering.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by choose another one on Thursday June 10 2021, @04:34PM (4 children)

    by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 10 2021, @04:34PM (#1143930)

    > The problem is called Skype. It's called Windows 10.

    Yeah that's true, Win 95 (and DOS actually) was much better at sound... but so much worse in so many other ways.

    > Dump your fucking shit software stack. Get software that Just Works like GNU/Linux and XFCE.

    Which is the Linux audio software that works then, is it alsa, is it alsa but not the userspace bit, is it pulse audio or is it jack which was made because pulse was shit or is it pipewire which I don't think is done yet but was started because of jack shit... or something else ?

    "Just works" audio on Linux ? Really ?

    Fact is your sound stayed in sync with what it was supposed to be in sync with when each app hit the dedicated sound hardware direct without OS getting in the way, and it's _never_ consistently stayed in sync on any platform since. And it ain't an internet problem either because otherwise it would magically go away if you just downloaded and then worked offline like in the old days, and guess what - it doesn't.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @05:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @05:33PM (#1143965)

      Which is the Linux audio software that works then, is it alsa, is it alsa but not the userspace bit, is it pulse audio or is it jack which was made because pulse was shit or is it pipewire which I don't think is done yet but was started because of jack shit... or something else ?

      Any of the above.

      Alsa is old, but still works most of the time if you only want one output.

      Pulse Audio works fine for regular desktop use.

      Jack (which predates Pulse FYI) is excellent if you have a static studio setup and need low latency, network audio, or other kinds of specialised/professional audio setup.

      Pipewire is still work-in-progress, but now pretty stable for general use. It's aimed to be a replacement for Pulse Audio, while also bringing some of the features of Jack to a more casual audience.

      "Just works" audio on Linux ? Really ?

      Compared to Windows? Abso-fucking-lutely!

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @08:06PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @08:06PM (#1144041)

      Just the kind of masturbatory 2 minutes' hate I'd expect from fans of a has-been OS (Linux, not Windows) and its ecosystem dominated by purple-haired Jewish trannies who think writing good software is a "meritocracy" and that meritocracies are bad because Jews shriek with rage when they see somebody doing something better than they can.

      The same hooknosed weasels are behind ideas like "equity" and "common core" in which the top performers are hampered or forced out, and the rest are held in line with codes of conduct. And, amusingly, the same purple-haired Jewish trannies who think Linux is totally righteous oversaw Linux being usurped by Jewish and Chinese corporate interests, and even Microsoft itself is biting off a huge piece of Linux because incompetent Jewish trannies in charge of Linux are sitting around selling out and circle-jerking each others' pronouns rather than maintaining a competitive OS.

      In 5 years or so when Microsoft Linux is a dominant product, and casual users are running Linux with the Linux Subsystem for Windows, purple-haired Jewish trannies will shriek and infight and blame their own incompetence on the White man's colonialism.
       

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @09:35PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @09:35PM (#1144085)

        -1 sad but you're probably right about the outcome

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @12:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 11 2021, @12:43AM (#1144140)

        OP, are you legitimately antisemitic, sinophobic and transphobic, or are you just working by rote off a
        'bigot bingo' card today? You failed at bigot bingo because you forgot to include fat-shaming and alien anal-probing. Cheers!