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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 10 2021, @12:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the this-is-infrastructure dept.

From Spiked:

If life ever returns to normal, one thing no one will miss from the lockdown era is the 'TV goldfish'. For over a year, we've watched the disembodied, pixelated faces of contributors to live TV mouth their words out of sync with their audio, gulping away as if in a private fish tank. This isn't the exception for internet video, it's the norm.

John Day is one of the internet's greybeard founding fathers. For a decade he has been advancing a set of improvements to the current mainstream internet protocols. His proposals – called RINA (Recursive Internetwork Architecture) – revisit and build on Louis Pouzin's founding concept of datagrams (data packets). Simplifying these features allowed the original inter-networking protocols (IP) to get out of the door in the 1980s and 1990s, and allowed for the rapid growth of the internet. But the current system we have – TCP/IP – is holding back new innovation.

See also: Internet outage illustrates lack of resilience at heart of critical services
The Guardian view on the internet outage: we need resilience, not just efficiency


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by TME520 on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:02PM (5 children)

    by TME520 (3326) on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:02PM (#1143882)

    I don't think TCP/IP is the problem here; I would rather focus my attention on the mildly rotten software environments most people use everyday.
    For as much as Windows 10 gets praised for being reasonably good, I can tell you it doesn't feel as nice as my Ubuntu distro.
    I know some of you will think I'm one more of these half-blind Linux zealots, but hear me: I use Windows 10 and Ubuntu 21.04 on two laptops both equipped with 16GB RAM, a SSD and a 10th gen i7. I swear Windows 10 consistently feels way more sluggish than Ubuntu. I regularly get a black screen for a coupe of seconds when switching between Teams and other running software.

    TL;DR Fix your shitty software env before pissing on TCP/IP

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:26PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:26PM (#1143888)

    >> I swear Windows 10 consistently feels way more sluggish than Ubuntu.

    That's because Poettering isn't done yet.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by shortscreen on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:46PM

    by shortscreen (2252) on Thursday June 10 2021, @02:46PM (#1143893) Journal

    Windows 10 praised? By who? With all of its phone-home, auto-update, and other mysterious background processes enabled by default, I would expect random interruptions and non-deterministic behavior to be par for the course.

  • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Thursday June 10 2021, @03:41PM (2 children)

    by vux984 (5045) on Thursday June 10 2021, @03:41PM (#1143910)

    I regularly get a black screen for a coupe of seconds when switching between Teams and other running software.

    And you don't think the issue is teams? Plus Teams on ubuntu is even more flaky in my experience.

    • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Thursday June 10 2021, @04:04PM (1 child)

      by bradley13 (3053) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 10 2021, @04:04PM (#1143915) Homepage Journal

      I use Teams a lot on Ubuntu, and only have minor problems. What's annoying, though, is that the Windows client has seen a lot of new and improved features over the past year. The Linux client hasn't been touched, and is way behind. That's really disappointing, when MS is supposed to be getting friendlier with Linux.

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      Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
      • (Score: 2) by toddestan on Thursday June 10 2021, @11:34PM

        by toddestan (4982) on Thursday June 10 2021, @11:34PM (#1144126)

        That seems to fit in with how Microsoft views Linux for the desktop. They are really pushing running Linux on top of Windows 10, and if you're doing that, well you can just use the Windows Teams client then.

        You should also be able to use the web client too. That seems to work reasonably well by Teams standards, though I don't dabble in a lot of the more advanced features.