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posted by janrinok on Thursday June 10, @02:24AM   Printer-friendly
from the wot,-no-kitchen-sink? dept.

Vivaldi 4.0 launches with built-in email and calendar clients, RSS reader – TechCrunch:

Vivaldi has always been one of the more interesting of the Chromium-based browsers, in no small part thanks to its emphasis on building tools for power users in a privacy-centric package, but also because of its pedigree, with Opera's outspoken former CEO Jon von Tetzchner as its co-founder and CEO. Today, the Vivaldi team is launching version 4.0 of its browser and with that, it's introducing a slew of new features that, among many other things, include the beta of new built-in mail, calendar and RSS clients, as well as the launch of Vivaldi Translate, a privacy-friendly translation service hosted on the company's own servers and powered by Lingvanex.

Vivaldi isn't new to email clients. The company has long offered a webmail service, for example. But building an offline email client into the browser — as well as a calendar client — almost feels like a return to the early days of browsers, like Netscape Navigator and Opera, when having these additional built-in features was almost standard. Von Tetzchner argues that for a lot of browser vendors, doing away with those features was about steering users into certain directions (including their own webmail clients).

"We've chosen to say, 'okay, we don't want to have the business model decide what we do. We rather focus on what the users want.' And I think there's a significant value [in a built-in email client]. Most all of us use email — at varying levels, some of use it a lot, some less, but everyone basically has at least one email account," he said. "So having a good client for that, that's kind of where we're coming from. And, I mean, we obviously did a lot of those things at Opera — some of them we didn't — and we are filling a gap with what Opera used to be doing. And now at Vivaldi, we are doing those things, but also a lot more. We never did a calendar at Opera."

(...) As of now Vivaldi isn't profitable. It generates some revenue from preinstalled bookmarks and search engine partnerships. But von Tetzchner argues that Vivaldi just needs to increase its user base a bit more to become a sustainable company. He seems comfortable with that idea — and the fact that its per-user revenue is relatively low. "We've done this before and we've seen this work. It takes time to build a company like ours," he said. "I hope people are liking what we're building — that's kind of the feel I get — people are really liking what we're building. And then kind of gradually, we'll get enough users to pay the bills and then we take it from there."


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  • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Thursday June 10, @05:27PM (3 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Thursday June 10, @05:27PM (#1143961)

    I don't remember hearing of "Sylpheed", so thank you so much. I'm okay with it being older- if it works. :) Maybe I'll even get involved with it, depending if I ever get any free time back. And if it's not too badly written... Thanks again!

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Reziac on Friday June 11, @03:28AM (2 children)

    by Reziac (2489) on Friday June 11, @03:28AM (#1144167) Homepage

    Huh. It's much like the old Netscape mail client, except updated for multiple mailboxes. -- Which is why I use SeaMonkey for email; I like that style, but need umpteen mailboxes and folders and such.

    • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday June 12, @12:48AM (1 child)

      by RS3 (6367) on Saturday June 12, @12:48AM (#1144431)

      ... Netscrape mail client... slowly the cobwebs are clearing... way back in the 90s I used Netscape email... but never actually used the client. I used it to get pop3 mail, then pine (alpine) to actually read and write. I forget all the details, but I had tried fetchmail and a couple of other pop3 fetchers and found them too fiddly. Netscape got me the inbox, then I copied it, or catted it, or something, over to my main inbox (all on Linux).

      I'm not sure if I ever tried SeaMonkey, and I don't think I knew that SeaMonkey had an email client. Thank you for that- I'll try it.

      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday June 12, @01:28AM

        by Reziac (2489) on Saturday June 12, @01:28AM (#1144450) Homepage

        Netscape ruined me... that's how I want email to work. And Seamonkey, like Netscape, still keeps email in a plaintext file. I've seen too many disasters from databased email, so that ugly textfile is one of my requirements. And you can copy it wherever you like; it doesn't care.