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posted by martyb on Thursday October 16 2014, @04:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the science-of-language dept.

German was the dominant scientific language in 1900. Today if a scientist is going to coin a new term, it's most likely in English. And if they are going to publish a new discovery, it is most definitely in English. Look no further than the Nobel Prize awarded for physiology and medicine to Norwegian couple May-Britt and Edvard Moser. Their research was written and published in English. How did English come to dominate German in the realm of science? BBC reports that the major shock to the system was World War One, which had two major impacts. According to Princeton University's Rosengarten professor of modern and contemporary history Michael Gordin, it started after World War One when Belgian, French, and British scientists organized a boycott of scientists from Germany and Austria. They were blocked from conferences and weren't able to publish in Western European journals. "Increasingly, you have two scientific communities, one German, which functions in the defeated [Central Powers] of Germany and Austria, and another that functions in Western Europe, which is mostly English and French," says Gordin.

The second effect of World War One took place in the US. Starting in 1917 when the US entered the war, there was a wave of anti-German hysteria that swept the country. In Ohio, Wisconsin and Minnesota there were many, many German speakers. World War One changed all that. "German is criminalized in 23 states. You're not allowed to speak it in public, you're not allowed to use it in the radio, you're not allowed to teach it to a child under the age of 10," says Gordin. The Supreme Court overturned those anti-German laws in 1923, but for years they were the law of the land. What that effectively did, according to Gordin, was decimate foreign language learning in the US resulting in a generation of future scientists who come of age with limited exposure to foreign languages. That was also the moment, according to Gordin, when the American scientific establishment started to take over dominance in the world. "The story of the 20th Century is not so much the rise of English as the serial collapse of German as the up-and-coming language of scientific communication," concludes Gordin.

 
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 16 2014, @07:28AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 16 2014, @07:28AM (#106554)

    Science and everything else jumped on for the funding.

    And no, it did not originate in America... it originated with the old European bankers, and I get the idea if it had not been for the French revolution which upset the French aristocracy's apple cart, we would all be speaking French today.

    This banking stuff is has got to be one of the most pernicious evils of a free enterprise system, as bankers get the exclusive privilege of creating money from nothing, then exacting usury of that they never had to loan in the first place.

    We went to war against England to free ourselves from external financial domination, then we let them bastards back in the '60's with the establishment of the FED.... which is just about as responsible to the public as Federal Express.... Now they damn near own everything again, with "float another bond issue" seeming to be the only way our governments can seem to come up to pay people to kissbutt to them.

    its getting election time again and I am getting damned mad hearing all these coaxing voices coming out of the woodwork cooing "join me! Say YES to yet more debt! YES! Yes on proposition whatever! --- but its for the Kids. " Kids my eye! All those contractors lining up for another round of heftily paid government work - then they will take the big money the government pays them to bid the prices up in the markets. And we don't seem to have better sense than to vote for more debt so a very few get very rich.

    Offtopic as hell, I am pissed and have to vent somewhere.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Bot on Thursday October 16 2014, @11:59AM

    by Bot (3902) on Thursday October 16 2014, @11:59AM (#106581) Journal

    unfortunately what you said is not offtopic, If you start asking "whys" you almost always end up in availability of money, and one "why" after you end up in the relationship between issued money, debt, states, and banks.

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    • (Score: 1) by tadas on Thursday October 16 2014, @02:21PM

      by tadas (3635) on Thursday October 16 2014, @02:21PM (#106631)

      unfortunately what you said is not offtopic, If you start asking "whys" you almost always end up in availability of money, and one "why" after you end up in the relationship between issued money, debt, states, and banks.

      .. or as Berthold Brecht put it in a line from The Threepenny Opera:

        "What's robbing a bank, compared to owning a bank".