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posted by azrael on Monday October 20 2014, @03:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the does-not-pass-go dept.

3ders.org has an article on the conclusion of a trial in Japan of a man for making a 3D printed gun.

Earlier today, a verdict was reached in the infamous 3D printed gun trial that was being held in the Yokohama District Court in Tokyo, Japan. Presiding Judge Koji Inaba found the 28-year-old Yoshitomo Imura, a former teacher at a local college, guilty of violating laws controlling firearms and swords. For printing at least two workable guns using a 3D printer, Imura was sentenced to two years in prison.

Since Imura's arrest in May, a number of Japanese distributors of 3D printing technology have organized a '3D printer Promotion Council' to both educate people about the possibilities of this technology, but also to warn consumers of its dangers. They are currently looking into possibilities to avoid such events in the future, including better cooperation between the industry and the government and a blacklist of design data.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 20 2014, @04:44PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday October 20 2014, @04:44PM (#107871)

    Its all in the details of the implementation.

    Criminal with a gun is bad inevitably transubstantiates into the only thing worse than a criminal with a gun is a law abiding citizen with a concealed carry permit.

    I am strongly in favor of training before activities, including legally required mandatory training before activities. I like the mandatory hunter training program we have in my state. What I don't like is training for possession. First its usually implemented as a poll tax. Lets make it expensive enough that white people can afford it but not black people, that sort of thing. Thats how concealed carry training has worked out where I live. Another problem is when my grandfather died and my grandmother inherited his guns, shooting sports was not her thing so I see no need to give her a felony conviction and take away her right to vote and lock her in prison and throw away the key merely because her husband died and she isn't into shooting sports. If as you claim, an inanimate object is not inherently wrong, whats so bad about leaving it inanimate inside the locked gun case where she doesn't even know the combo? There are possible solutions to the problem all horribly complicated. Requiring training within a year of gaining possession. Make the law toothless so my grandma can't possibly become a felon. A byzantine level of legal complication. Maybe the best solution is not to require it for mere possession, and existing activity based training is rational and reasonable (aside from the poll tax issue used to keep guns away from blacks)

    Sure we're technically not taking away anybodies ability to hunt, just making it a felony to have a gun in your car within 2000 feet of a school, even if school isn't in session. And sure, our schools are located such that there is no pavement in the city more than 2000 feet from a school. But we're not technically making "going hunting" a felony because in theory if you lived in a cave in the Rockies out west there might be a place you could legally drive around with camping and hunting gear in your car without getting a felony. Its the same game they play successfully with sex offenders. They're not allowed within 2000 feet of a school so the city has a building code that you're not allowed to zone residential unless all units are within 2000 feet of an elementary school "for the children". Its all a big scam. With the sex offenders I don't really mind, but making it a felony for any hunter to drive thru or park within our city is pretty offensive to me.

    I agree with you that Obama is a good Republican and I'd almost vote for him. I was a Republican before the neo-nutcases came in and kicked all the normal people out and O would have pretty much fit right in with us. He's a total warmonger but at least domestically he's not bad. The problem with O is you give away your civil rights to a "really nice guy" and then some nutcase comes into power in the future and things get all Fed up. Look at Germany in the late 20s. Paul von Hindenburg, not so bad of a guy, what me worry? Sure give the .gov total control, what could possibly go wrong? Well look who came after him. When Hillary takes over, I don't think things are going to be quite so rational in .gov. Thats the danger in giving away your rights... a basically good leader, even if you do disagree with some choices, doesn't need them or want them and won't abuse them, it won't hurt to give them away, but what happens when a lunatic rises to power?

    "putting together private arsenals" Usually this means registration and making "lists" and taking away the "wrong" guns from the "wrong" people (blacks, jews, etc). How you implement this without totally screwing up is a mystery. Also if a collector has 35 Colt 1911 pistols, he probably can't do any more damage after the first 4 or so, yet the poster children for the proposals are all serious collectors. Finally there's usually an aspect of cluelessness, non-hunters think hunters own "a" gun, but the shooting sports are full of guys with tricked out duck hunting rigs and a varmint rifle and a deer rifle and a turkey gun and a dove shot gun and they are all quite different and there seems to reason to force them to buy and sell before and after each season or play paperwork shuffling games (well now that deer season is over I filed paperwork so my wife owns my deer rifle). It really doesn't matter. These are the same people who keep telling us that the 2nd amendment may as well be repealed because the .mil so overpowers us that a mere deer hunting rifle has not legit purpose under the constitution anymore. Need to make up their minds!

    Finally as a voter I have no influence whatsoever due to our failed political system. The will of the voters is not being expressed. However, just like everyone else, I won't do anything about it as long as bread and circuses keep flowing. I fail to see any philosophical reason to oppose gun ownership in a post-societal collapse environment. Its not like an attempt at a ban will prevent the collapse or even slow it down, it'll just make the end result more gruesome if only crooks are allowed firearms. The rest of your argument boils down to crazy people gonna do crazy things, so making life really difficult for non-crazy people will somehow help, for no apparent cause and effect reason... if you're planning to personally overthrow the government, you're already nuts, so criminalizing being nuts isn't going to help anyone or fix anything. The only people who will suffer from those gun laws would be the non-nuts non-treasonous non-overthrow people, and the actual nuts will be completely unaffected, because... they're nuts!

    Daydreaming about a magical way to punish nuts while not harming the good people is nice, but it doesn't exist and the best approaches so far have the opposite effect of hurting good people while not even slowing down the nuts. So when you find yourself in a hole, and want to get out, first step is stop digging. Maybe even repeal some of the dumbest, most counterproductive gun control laws? Maybe repeal all of them? It does seem on a local level that the more intense the gun control laws, the more of a hellhole to live in the locality is... a little cause and effect experiment might help.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 20 2014, @04:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 20 2014, @04:49PM (#107873)

    "with the sex offenders I don't really mind"

    I hope one kills you.

    The Old Testament allows men to have female children as wives.
    Deuteronomy 22 28-29 (read in hebrew).

    Also YOU do not have a wife. You have a master. She can and will get rid of you as she pleases.

    You have no voter influence because women can vote. They put pressure as a bloc while men are fractious.
    Your vote has been diluted to nothing, as was intended.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 20 2014, @05:00PM

      by VLM (445) on Monday October 20 2014, @05:00PM (#107879)

      Also YOU do not have a wife. You have a master.

      Well, we don't know much about AC. Not where he lives, works, his name, his facebook page, blood type, DNA sample, or fingerprint.

      But, AC is married. That's one thing we know for sure LOL.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Sir Garlon on Monday October 20 2014, @05:37PM

        by Sir Garlon (1264) on Monday October 20 2014, @05:37PM (#107892)

        If anything, he *used to be* married.

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        [Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday October 20 2014, @05:52PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Monday October 20 2014, @05:52PM (#107896)

        And he doesn't seem to understand that the whole point of marriage is that of course she can leave at any time, but that you should be so good to her and good for her that she wouldn't want to. (And the same thing is true in the other direction: She should be such a joy in your life that you wouldn't want to leave even if you though you could at any time.)

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        "Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
      • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Monday October 20 2014, @05:53PM

        by dyingtolive (952) on Monday October 20 2014, @05:53PM (#107897)

        AC better hope he's not British. I hear you get two years for that now.

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        Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday October 20 2014, @09:20PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday October 20 2014, @09:20PM (#107980) Journal

    Good points, but I would posit that guns are so 20th century. Drones and their children seem a much better choice for aspiring change agents.

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    Washington DC delenda est.