I just voted for "coffee" and it seems to be the *only* vote in the system at that time, but then again, you could not have commented unless you voted. Ann, IIRC slashcode has a timer system. Displayed counts may only update every 5 or 10 minutes.
FWIW, I had my first cup of coffee at the the end of my 1st semester in college. The Student Union hosted a study session and provided fresh coffee and donuts every hour. It took some period of adaptation, but I've been a coffee guy ever since.
Before that, college studying was assisted by 2-Liter bottles of Coca-Cola. One was just the right size for pulling a late-nighter or an all-nighter.
In high school, it was just: eating a balanced diet, plenty of exercise, and going to bed when I was tired. (I tended to study early in the AM before anyone else was awake.)
Caffeine has given me tunnel vision and migraines since I was a teenager, so hot chocolate was my coffee substitute. Last year, after Covid and a few months of 70-80 hour work weeks mainlining my hot chocolate, I can't have sugar anymore. I am now without a suitable liquid stimulant.
-- The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity.
- P. Hajicek
It is possible to obtain hot chocolate made with sugar substitutes (saccharine, aspartame, sucralose, etc), or you can make your own - go authentic and make Xocolatl [wikipedia.org], which typically had no sweeteners.
I tried doing some cocoa powder and stevia. Doesn't come close to the Swiss Miss dark chocolate I was used to. I did find some decent sugar free solid dark chocolate.
-- The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity.
- P. Hajicek
Keep trying. After cutting almost all sugar out of my diet I can enjoy cocoa powder in a drink with almost no sweeteners at all. The sense of taste seems to adjust over time as your sensitivity to sweetness comes back.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23 2022, @03:07PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Sunday January 23 2022, @03:07PM (#1215004)
I enjoy the Lindt 90% Cocoa Chocolate bar (the made in Germany one). When it's 90% cocoa it can't have much sugar per serving. I find it tastier than the Lindt 85% bar that's made in France.
The 99% bar is not worth it - half the weight for about the same price if not more. So you get less cocoa for the same money.
I take cocoa powder (plus milk) with no sugar at all, because I drink tea with no sugar either. (And coffee isn't my thing.)
I used to drink commercial hot chocolate as a kid, but then went off it in favour of tea. When I tried it again several years later, I'd gotten so used to unsweetened tea that sweet hot chocolate was an instant no-no.
Making cocoa at home isn't an issue, but the odds of finding a restaurant or beverage shop that does it is rather slim.
This is due to the horrible aftertaste that you get with stevia. It doesn't taste like sugar. Then again, it sounds like you may have been missing the milk part of the equation. Since Swiss Miss has milk in it. While Cocoa Powder and Stevia creates a drink akin to Nestle Quick as opposed to Swiss Miss.
-- Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
Having switched back and forth between stevia and sugar a couple times, I'd say the trick is to choose one or the other and don't mix. Once you get accustomed to stevia it tastes "normal," while sugar's immediate and strong effects on your system can knock you for a loop. If you only ingest real sugar, stevia's taste will strike you as odd, the way that saccharine did back in the day.
It can be a challenge to find stevia in bulk, though, such that you can mete it out with measuring spoons and cups. I make hot chocolate with it but grow weary of tearing open several dozen packets to sweeten it enough. On the plus side, if you make it from scratch yourself and have one of those drink frothers you'll get an amazing mug of hot chocolate versus the convenient one Swiss Miss delivers.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 22 2022, @10:45PM
(1 child)
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday January 22 2022, @10:45PM (#1214873)
Go for chocolate without sugar or with a lot less sugar?
If you can't then maybe your drug of choice was actually sugar and not chocolate.
p.s. on a related note I think it's wrong for sugar pills to be used as placebos in medical studies. Sugar is an active substance that lots of people (especially in the USA) are addicted to.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Saturday January 15 2022, @12:33AM (15 children)
I just voted for "coffee" and it seems to be the *only* vote in the system at that time, but then again, you could not have commented unless you voted. Ann, IIRC slashcode has a timer system. Displayed counts may only update every 5 or 10 minutes.
FWIW, I had my first cup of coffee at the the end of my 1st semester in college. The Student Union hosted a study session and provided fresh coffee and donuts every hour. It took some period of adaptation, but I've been a coffee guy ever since.
Before that, college studying was assisted by 2-Liter bottles of Coca-Cola. One was just the right size for pulling a late-nighter or an all-nighter.
In high school, it was just: eating a balanced diet, plenty of exercise, and going to bed when I was tired. (I tended to study early in the AM before anyone else was awake.)
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by mhajicek on Sunday January 16 2022, @07:13PM (14 children)
Caffeine has given me tunnel vision and migraines since I was a teenager, so hot chocolate was my coffee substitute. Last year, after Covid and a few months of 70-80 hour work weeks mainlining my hot chocolate, I can't have sugar anymore. I am now without a suitable liquid stimulant.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2, Informative) by pTamok on Monday January 17 2022, @08:43PM (11 children)
It is possible to obtain hot chocolate made with sugar substitutes (saccharine, aspartame, sucralose, etc), or you can make your own - go authentic and make Xocolatl [wikipedia.org], which typically had no sweeteners.
(Score: 4, Informative) by mhajicek on Monday January 17 2022, @09:23PM (10 children)
I tried doing some cocoa powder and stevia. Doesn't come close to the Swiss Miss dark chocolate I was used to. I did find some decent sugar free solid dark chocolate.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Informative) by acid andy on Tuesday January 18 2022, @04:00AM (4 children)
Keep trying. After cutting almost all sugar out of my diet I can enjoy cocoa powder in a drink with almost no sweeteners at all. The sense of taste seems to adjust over time as your sensitivity to sweetness comes back.
Consumerism is poison.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23 2022, @03:07PM
The 99% bar is not worth it - half the weight for about the same price if not more. So you get less cocoa for the same money.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday January 24 2022, @02:55AM (1 child)
Isn't that something like the way the Aztecs drank it?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 24 2022, @05:21PM
If you've had mole with cocoa in it, similar to that, but runnier.
(Score: 2) by kazzie on Friday February 11 2022, @01:22PM
I take cocoa powder (plus milk) with no sugar at all, because I drink tea with no sugar either. (And coffee isn't my thing.)
I used to drink commercial hot chocolate as a kid, but then went off it in favour of tea. When I tried it again several years later, I'd gotten so used to unsweetened tea that sweet hot chocolate was an instant no-no.
Making cocoa at home isn't an issue, but the odds of finding a restaurant or beverage shop that does it is rather slim.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday January 24 2022, @05:47PM
This is due to the horrible aftertaste that you get with stevia. It doesn't taste like sugar. Then again, it sounds like you may have been missing the milk part of the equation. Since Swiss Miss has milk in it. While Cocoa Powder and Stevia creates a drink akin to Nestle Quick as opposed to Swiss Miss.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday February 06 2022, @09:47PM (3 children)
Having switched back and forth between stevia and sugar a couple times, I'd say the trick is to choose one or the other and don't mix. Once you get accustomed to stevia it tastes "normal," while sugar's immediate and strong effects on your system can knock you for a loop. If you only ingest real sugar, stevia's taste will strike you as odd, the way that saccharine did back in the day.
It can be a challenge to find stevia in bulk, though, such that you can mete it out with measuring spoons and cups. I make hot chocolate with it but grow weary of tearing open several dozen packets to sweeten it enough. On the plus side, if you make it from scratch yourself and have one of those drink frothers you'll get an amazing mug of hot chocolate versus the convenient one Swiss Miss delivers.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Monday February 07 2022, @12:16AM (2 children)
I found another sugar alternative called Swerve. I believe it's an alcohol sugar. It tastes better. Adding lots of half-and-half helps too.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday February 07 2022, @03:21AM (1 child)
Thanks, I'll check into that. What supermarket chain carries it?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Monday February 07 2022, @03:45AM
Walmart, Amazon, I'm sure several others. On searching, turns out they have a brown sugar substitute too, I'll have to try that in oatmeal.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 22 2022, @10:45PM (1 child)
Go for chocolate without sugar or with a lot less sugar?
If you can't then maybe your drug of choice was actually sugar and not chocolate.
p.s. on a related note I think it's wrong for sugar pills to be used as placebos in medical studies. Sugar is an active substance that lots of people (especially in the USA) are addicted to.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 23 2022, @12:03AM
I drank this [kroger.com] because it was on sale once, before realizing it had more sugar in it than soda does.