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Longtime Debian contributor Tollef Fog Heen has announced his resignation from the Debian systemd maintainer team. His announcement states that "the load of the continued attacks is just becoming too much."
He has since written a detailed blog article surrounding the circumstances of his resignation. As he puts it,
I've been a DD for almost 14 years, I should be able to weather any storm, shouldn't I? It turns out that no, the mountain does get worn down by the rain. It's not a single hurtful comment here and there. There's a constant drum about this all being some sort of conspiracy and there are sometimes flares where people wish people involved in systemd would be run over by a bus or just accusations of incompetence.
This is yet another dramatic event affecting the Debian project in recent months. The adoption of systemd has been extremely controversial, even going so far as to result in calls for Debian to be forked. There have been other problems as of late, too, ranging from a serious bug breaking Wine just days before the Jessie freeze deadline, to the possibility of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD being dropped from Debian 8. And it was only just over a week ago that Joey Hess — another longtime Debian contributor — left the project, citing the "very unhealthy directions" that Debian has been led in lately.
Is the internal tension and strife caused by systemd about to tear the Debian project apart? Recent events such as the aforementioned have suggested that this is becoming more and more of a possibility. The repercussions of this drama will no doubt be felt wide and far, given Debian's own popularity, as well it forming the basis of other major Linux distros such as Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @12:26PM
It's amazing how abusive and vindictive Linux users can be.
What? The Internet is full of abusive and vindictive people. Just look at the Windows haters, Apple haters, Linux haters, Google haters. The list goes on and on. Add to that the hate filled comments about the opposing political party, racists comments, the amateur and professional trolls, et al, and you've got a recipe for anonymous confrontation disaster. No wonder sites like Reuters don't allow comments any more. The noise to signal ratio drowns out any real discussion.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @01:07PM
A lot of weak-minded people, such as yourself, find it difficult to understand that criticism is often valid.
You mistakenly think that everybody else is a pathetic, emotional basket case like yourself. Well, most of us aren't!
I don't really give a fuck about systemd one way or the other. I don't like it, and I don't hate it. It's a tool. Now if a tool is broken, I'll damn well point this out. I don't care if it's a hammer, a vacuum cleaner, or systemd.
Systemd is a failure from a technical perspective. Systemd is a failure from a political perspective. Systemd is a failure from a marketing perspective. There's just nothing good about it, so I will never say anything good about it.
I'm not one of your so-called "haters". I just won't put up with shitty software.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @11:09PM
Can somebody please fix up the mismoderation of the parent comment? It's clearly not "flamebait".
(Score: 1) by Horse With Stripes on Tuesday November 18 2014, @12:28AM
Wow, that's a load of shit right there.
There's a big difference between "No matter how I try I just can't get used to insert product here>; I can't unserstand why they would ever do that." and "insert product here> is shit and their fanbois wouldn't know quality if it shit down their necks."
Criticism, whether some, most or all agree with it, is valid from the point of view of the person stating it as long as it's truthful and genuine. Paid shills, professional trolls, hate baiters and the like aren't criticizing. If you think people who can differentiate between bullshit and genuine comments (negative or positive) are "emotional basket case like yourself" then you've got some maturing to do.
AFA systemd, there are the people who hate it because it's different, because it violates their "freedom to choose" Linux sensibilities, because it doesn't do everything it should while it does plenty it shouldn't, because change for the sake of change is generally a suckfest, because it has derailed professional relationships, the undeniable political failure and chaos that has ensued, blah blah blah. They all have valid point of view and they should have the choice to install systemd if they'd like, or not. There are shit-stirrers, "make it easy for me"s, "all in one means one for all", "better is better than worse"ers, and pro systemd people who think the progress systemd brings in some areas is worth the compromise in others. They too have valid points of view and they should have the choice to install systemd if they'd like, or not.
Systemd should be a choice, not a default and certainly not a requirement.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 18 2014, @12:47PM
No, systemd is shit no matter how you look at it. Some stuff just inherently is completely shitty. You know, like feces.