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posted by martyb on Monday November 17 2014, @11:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the more-systemd-fallout dept.

Longtime Debian contributor Tollef Fog Heen has announced his resignation from the Debian systemd maintainer team. His announcement states that "the load of the continued attacks is just becoming too much."

He has since written a detailed blog article surrounding the circumstances of his resignation. As he puts it,

I've been a DD for almost 14 years, I should be able to weather any storm, shouldn't I? It turns out that no, the mountain does get worn down by the rain. It's not a single hurtful comment here and there. There's a constant drum about this all being some sort of conspiracy and there are sometimes flares where people wish people involved in systemd would be run over by a bus or just accusations of incompetence.

This is yet another dramatic event affecting the Debian project in recent months. The adoption of systemd has been extremely controversial, even going so far as to result in calls for Debian to be forked. There have been other problems as of late, too, ranging from a serious bug breaking Wine just days before the Jessie freeze deadline, to the possibility of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD being dropped from Debian 8. And it was only just over a week ago that Joey Hess — another longtime Debian contributor — left the project, citing the "very unhealthy directions" that Debian has been led in lately.

Is the internal tension and strife caused by systemd about to tear the Debian project apart? Recent events such as the aforementioned have suggested that this is becoming more and more of a possibility. The repercussions of this drama will no doubt be felt wide and far, given Debian's own popularity, as well it forming the basis of other major Linux distros such as Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @03:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @03:05PM (#116737)

    Maybe because creating an account and logging in is a dumb waste of time?

    That's why I post as AC, at least. Maybe it is the same for the GP.

    Besides, it's the message that matters, not who wrote it.

    Systemd will always be terrible, regardless of the names on the comments.

    Sorry, there's no conspiracy here. There are just a lot of different, independent people who have been wronged by systemd in one way or another, and aren't happy about it.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @03:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @03:42PM (#116763)

    Maybe because creating an account and logging in is a dumb waste of time?

    I'll add to this (I'm not any of the other ACs) that the damn SoylentNews site logs me out every few days, and the login fields don't seem to auto-fill with Firefox, so staying logged in is just a pain in the ass. There would probably be a lot fewer AC posts if the system didn't make it so tedious to be logged in.

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday November 17 2014, @07:41PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 17 2014, @07:41PM (#116910) Journal

      The trouble with being an AC is that you can't be told from the other ACs. E.g., I don't know that you aren't posting a reply to yourself.

      OTOH, I'm very skeptical about systemd. There are lots of small reasons to distrust it, and nothing that I've ever heard about it makes me want to use it. (OTOH, I still prefer grub over grub2.)

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @10:07PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 17 2014, @10:07PM (#116965)

        And how can the rest of us be assured that you aren't also the AC you just replied to?

        It's trivially easy to create multiple accounts here, and registered members can post as AC easily, too.

        Somebody used to constantly point out how that Torx (or whatever his name is) admitted to posting as AC just to enflame arguments. How do we know you aren't doing that, too? How do we know you aren't also posting here as Torx?