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Debian General Resolution to Prevent Init System Coupling Fails to Pass

posted by janrinok on Wednesday November 19 2014, @11:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the I-hope-we-don't-regret-this dept.

novak writes:

Ian Jackson's general resolution to prevent init system coupling has failed to pass, the majority vote deciding that the resolution is unnecessary. This means that not only will Debian's default init be systemd, but packages will not be required to support other init systems. Presumably, this means that using other init systems on Debian (without using systemd as a base) will not be possible without major workarounds, or possibly at all. It also leaves the future of Debian projects such as kFreeBSD unclear, as systemd is linux specific.

The vote results can be found here

The winners are:

Option 4 "General Resolution is not required"

 
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:00PM (#117618)

    It's a hipster/Millennial thing.

    Many of them are a bunch of soft pansies who feel the need to bring "social justice" into absolutely everything.

    They're very sensitive people, who can't take any sort of criticism, even when it's perfectly valid. Somehow they think that critiquing their work is a personal attack upon them.

    Everything is supposedly about "emotion" and "empathy" and "compassion" and "tolerance" to them.

    This is, obviously, an absolutely terrible state of mind to have when working with technology. It clouds the ability to make sane, sensible technical decisions. It interferes with objective analysis of the pros and cons of technology. It leads to a disaster like systemd in Debian, the decline of Firefox, and everything about the total mishap that is GNOME 3.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:25PM (#117633)

    Everything is supposedly about "emotion" and "empathy" and "compassion" and "tolerance" to them.

    This is, obviously, an absolutely terrible state of mind to have when working with technology.

    well, the systemd devs have been telling users to fuck off, so in light of your revelations you should build a bridge and get the fuck over it

    moron

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:29PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:29PM (#117639)

      well, the systemd devs have been telling users to fuck off, so in light of your revelations you should build a bridge and get the fuck over it

      I would, if that bridge allows me to stay far far away from them.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:25PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 19 2014, @01:25PM (#117634) Journal

    It's a hipster/Millennial thing.[...]

    The thought you may be right made my shudder.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 19 2014, @02:20PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday November 19 2014, @02:20PM (#117665)

      Don't worry, he's not. Some people falsely equate embracing "Don't be a dick" as a moral standard with weakness and over-sensitivity. Also, GP seems to be equating not discriminating against people based on inborn traits like gender identity, race, and sexual orientation with being unwilling to criticize stupid ideas or shoddy work for being stupid and shoddy.

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      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday November 20 2014, @06:52AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 20 2014, @06:52AM (#118024) Journal

        Some people falsely equate embracing "Don't be a dick" as a moral standard with weakness and over-sensitivity.

        This is why I like better "live and let live" as a moral compass - it is less prone to misinterpretation and has the "Don't be a dick" as a consequence.

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        • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday November 20 2014, @01:26PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Thursday November 20 2014, @01:26PM (#118096)

          There's an important difference between "Don't be a dick" and "Live and let live": Let's say you observe somebody getting beaten on the sidewalk. "Don't be a dick" implies you should do something to improve the situation (because it's a dick move to ignore others' suffering). "Live and let live" implies that you shouldn't (because that would be interfering with someone else's dispute).

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