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posted by hubie on Thursday February 09 2023, @05:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the bloatness-knows-no-bounds dept.

Samsung's Android build is 4x bigger than Google's—twice the size of Windows 11:

As a smartphone operating system, Android strives to be a lightweight OS so it can run on a variety of hardware. The first version of the OS had to squeeze into the T-Mobile G1, with only a measly 256MB of internal storage for Android and all your apps, and ever since then, the idea has been to use as few resources as possible. Unless you have the latest Samsung phone, where Android somehow takes up an incredible 60GB of storage.

Yes, the Galaxy S23 is slowly trickling out to the masses, and, as Esper's senior technical editor Mishaal Rahman highlights in a storage space survey, Samsung's new phone is way out of line with most of the ecosystem. Several users report the phone uses around 60GB for the system partition right out of the box. If you have a 128GB phone, that's nearly half your storage for the Android OS and packed-in apps. That's four times the size of the normal Pixel 7 Pro system partition, which is 15GB. It's the size of two Windows 11 installs, side by side. What could Samsung possibly be putting in there?!

[...] Unlike the clean OSes you'd get from Google or Apple, Samsung sells space in its devices to the highest bidder via pre-installed crapware. A company like Facebook will buy a spot on Samsung's system partition, where it can get more intrusive system permissions that aren't granted to app store apps, letting it more effectively spy on users. You'll also usually find Netflix, Microsoft Office, Spotify, Linkedin, and who knows what else. Another round of crapware will also be included if you buy a phone from a carrier, i.e., all the Verizon apps and whatever space they want to sell to third parties. The average amount users are reporting is 60GB, but crapware deals change across carriers and countries, so it will be different for everyone.

[...] Just on the surface, Samsung's 60GB system partition looks bad compared to the Pixel 7's 15GB, but it's actually worse than those two raw numbers. Samsung isn't even using one of the big, storage-hungry Android features that you would normally get on Pixel 7: A/B system partitions. The Pixel 7 (and most other flagships) can actually have two copies of the operating system, one that is online and being used, and another that is offline and sitting in the background. [...]


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Monday February 13 2023, @07:55AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday February 13 2023, @07:55AM (#1291495) Journal

    It's fake news, Ars Technica fucked it up:

    Update: The original version of this article glossed over the fact that Android's storage screen starts with the advertised storage space, not the actual storage space, and then fudges the "system" numbers to make everything add up. Therefore it's not fair to compare Android to Windows or to compare phones of differing storage sizes. The 60GB number is from a 512GB Galaxy S23 device. Last year the number was around 49GB on a Galaxy S22 512GB phone, so the 512GB version, including all the same inaccurate storage calculations, somehow jumped 10GB year over year.

    We can calculate the real world GB usage, and while all the numbers get smaller, the relative distance between Google and Samsung does not change. A 128GB Pixel actually has only 119GB of actual storage, so it erroneously adds 9GB to the "15GB" system on a 128GB phone, for an actual size of 6GB. A 512GB phone has 477GB of actual storage, so Samsung's 60GB storage size is 25GB on a 512GB phone, where last year it was 15GB. Samsung's 25GB Android package is still bigger than ever and four times the size of Google's 6GB Android install.

    20-30 GB is a lot, but it's negligible for a "512 GB" phone I would most likely never fill anyway.

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/One-UI-5-1-bloatware-is-not-consuming-60-GB-storage-on-new-Samsung-Galaxy-S23-Galaxy-S23-Plus-or-Galaxy-S23-Ultra.692149.0.html [notebookcheck.net]

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