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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by janrinok on Sunday October 01 2023, @01:34PM (48 children)

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 01 2023, @01:34PM (#1326580) Journal
    My first OS was on a PDP-11, and subsequently on a VAX, but the first OS that I used on my own computer was CP/M in the early to mid 1980s.
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    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @07:54AM (47 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @07:54AM (#1327681)

      And you call yourself a Soylentil! Shame, janrinok! Shame!

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:14AM (46 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:14AM (#1327910)

        Spam mod of shame! Or is it the Shame of Spam modding? Really, there is no reason to even stop in, anymore.

        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:18AM (45 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @06:18AM (#1328067)

          What does janrinok hope to achieve with this endless stream of spam mods? Does it make him feel better, like he is doing something against the relentless tide of interrupting aristarchoi? Or is it only because no one can code in perl any more? I am at a loss to understand.

          • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:58AM (44 children)

            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:58AM (#1328077) Journal

            You have been abusing community members and spamming this site for over 4 years now. Your favourite targets are still here. The site has not closed down. You have not had your account reinstated. You now have to resort to lies to even think of anything original to accuse somebody of. We have 2 Perl programmers who are waiting for the new site to be established.

            What do you hope to achieve? I am at a loss to understand.

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            • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @08:42AM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @08:42AM (#1328079)

              Am I to take it that janrinok thinks he is addressing the dread soylentil aristarchus? How khallowesque.

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:08PM (5 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2023, @07:08PM (#1328194)

                The original Dread Soylentil Aristarchus has been retired for years, and is living quietly in Patagonia. You see, the name is the thing that inspires fear, and is all that is necessary.

                • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @09:50AM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2023, @09:50AM (#1328315)

                  Not to mention PDP12, but looks like the editors are now protecting George Santos, and rejecting all subs exposing his medancity! Oh, the Huge Manatees!

                  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:08AM (3 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:08AM (#1328517)

                    I now treat janrinok as if he were a Generative Artificial Intelligence, and am not convinced that this is wrong. He goes on, at great length, in ways that seem to make sense, but ultimately support white supremacists and incels. This is not healthy, nor rational, nor what the actual janrinok would intend. Perhaps he needs to do some more due diligence in the supervision of his AIs? Remember, a generative AI only predicts text, given a prompt, so actually it is only a glorified auto-correct. And we all know how accurate those are, and how accurate janrinok is, with his doxxing of the ACs.

                    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:05AM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:05AM (#1329377)

                      Maybe not. Today in the Governor's meeting, janrinok confessed to exhaustion from re-writing the by-laws. No actual LLM AI would ever have such a problem. Hence, and I do mean hence, maybe janrinok is not. An AI, that is.

                      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:38AM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:38AM (#1329471)

                        Maybe he will also tire of spam modding posts he suspects are aristarchian? One can only hope.

                        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2023, @10:22AM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2023, @10:22AM (#1330306)

                          I see no evidence that he will. The spam mods keep coming fast and heavy, and If I did not browse at -1, I might never know? But then, a lot of comments would make no sense. Maybe they don't, anyway.

            • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2023, @08:15AM (28 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2023, @08:15AM (#1328687)

              Poor janrinok! So confused! He does not recognize the fruit of his own actions! Ain't karma a bitch!

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2023, @09:48AM (26 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 15 2023, @09:48AM (#1328921)

                This comment needs more spam moderation. It should go all the way to eleven.

                • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @08:18AM (25 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @08:18AM (#1328993)

                  Still only one or two comments on the front page stories. Not long, now. Pay the $1, and shut the site down.

                  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday October 16 2023, @09:38AM (24 children)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 16 2023, @09:38AM (#1328999) Journal
                    32, 35, 18, 17, 10,24 - you mean for some values of 'one or two'?
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                    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:17AM (23 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:17AM (#1329378)

                      Right now, 10/19/2023 8:06 UTC, I am looking at:

                      2, 5, 10, 1, 13, 17, 16, 12, 9, 15, 2, 5, 4, 26, 27

                      For all the front page. Mean is 10. 9333, Median is 10, and the Mode is a measly 2. Do your stats better, janrinok. SN is dying.

                      • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:54AM (22 children)

                        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 19 2023, @08:54AM (#1329380) Journal

                        It is the mean that is more important - not the mode of a list that is so short it is the only number that features more than once. You ought to brush up on your statistics.

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                        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:03AM (20 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:03AM (#1329381)

                          There would be more comments if you weren't banning all new users again. Just today, you've banned dozens of new users. Nobody is left to comment on the stories because you've banned everyone.

                          • (Score: 4, Touché) by janrinok on Thursday October 19 2023, @10:19AM (19 children)

                            by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 19 2023, @10:19AM (#1329385) Journal
                            New 'users' you say? Do you mean these:

                            +-------------------------------------+-------+
                            | Fuck You Niggers (126-150)                | 36571 |
                            | Adolf Janrinok                      | 36572 |
                            | Janrinok Loves Hitler               | 36573 |
                            | Janrinok Loves Adolf Hitler         | 36574 |
                            | Janrinok is a Nazi                  | 36575 |
                            | Runaway Fucked Janrinok's Wife      | 36576 |
                            | Khallow Fucked Janrinok's Wife      | 36577 |
                            | Janrinok's Dead Wife was a Nazi     | 36578 |
                            | Janrinok's Dead Nazi Wife           | 36579 |
                            | Janrinok's Dead Wife Loved Hitler   | 36580 |
                            | Janrinok Loves Swastikas            | 36581 |
                            | Hitler Fucked Janrinok's Dead Wife  | 36583 |
                            | Khallow Fucked Janrinok's Dead Wife | 36584 |
                            | Runaway Fucked Janrinok's Dead Wife | 36585 |
                            | Janrinok Buttfucked Runaway         | 36586 |
                            | Janrinok Buttfucked Khallow         | 36587 |
                            | Janrinok Sucks Ass                  | 36588 |
                            | Janrinok Loves Hamas                | 36589 |
                            | Janrinok is a Terrorist             | 36590 |
                            | Janrinok Loves Hezbollah            | 36591 |
                            | Janrinok's Dead Wife Joined Hamas   | 36592 |
                            | Ralph JewHater Nader                | 36593 |
                            | Nazi1956                            | 36594 |
                            | HamasLover1956                      | 36595 |
                            | Janrinok's Dead Terrorist Wife      | 36596 |
                            | Janrinok Censored his Dead Wife     | 36597 |
                            | Janrinok Banned his Dead Wife       | 36598 |
                            +-------------------------------------+-------+

                            And you wonder why we will not let you back onto the front pages. Remember to take your medication and have a rest.

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                            • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Thursday October 19 2023, @06:23PM (1 child)

                              by krishnoid (1156) on Thursday October 19 2023, @06:23PM (#1329427)

                              I'm very sorry, I laughed out loud at this. I'm a terrible person with a juvenile yet jaded sense of humor.

                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:40AM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:40AM (#1329473)

                                HamasLover1956 rings a bell. A very right-wing Pavlovian Rand Paul kind of bell.

                            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:52AM (16 children)

                              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @05:52AM (#1329475)

                              I assume it's aristarchus creating those accounts, correct?

                              I suspect he thought up most of those names on the fly, just looking to attack people he doesn't like. However, one of them is a bit more interesting: Ralph JewHater Nader.

                              I've seen that username before. Ralph JewHater Nader [slashdot.org] was a very prolific troll account on Slashdot. It might be the most vile troll account in the history of Slashdot. It posted hundreds of comments, perhaps even thousands of them, pretty much all of which were blatantly antisemitic and racist. It routinely advocated for the genocide of Jews, and encouraged extreme cruelty. Here's a sample of some things that account posted, though I'll use asterisks to edit out slurs.

                              https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=27830&cid=2992374 [slashdot.org]:

                              Thank you for your first post. I am proud to say that our combined efforts have finally alerted the Slashdot readers to a terrible threat: the zionist threat. We must fight the good fight. Kill all the jews! Execute the n*****s! Only then will the world be safe from the subhuman races!

                              https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=31587&cid=3397019 [slashdot.org]:

                              All n*****s should be shot. All k***s must be gassed.

                              https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28446&cid=3057786 [slashdot.org]:

                              Shoot all the jews into space while they're at it and don't put any thermal protection on it. If they try to enter the atmosphere they'll burn like they did in Nazi ovens.

                              They also apparently took over a Ralph JewLover Nader account and posted https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=28678&cid=3082338 [slashdot.org]:

                              This account has been hijacked by the one and only Ralph JewHater Nader! Death to all k***s!

                              There are hundreds more comments like those, posted over the span of a year or two. Ralph JewHader Nader was a prolific troll account, repeatedly posting vile racist and antisemitic comments, and routinely supporting genocide.

                              That account name was not random, nor was it likely to be something that was invented on the spot. It was likely created because of the Slashdot account with the same name. I'm somewhat familiar with Ralph JewHader Nader's posting history on Slashdot, and it's one of the old troll accounts I actually remember, like cyborg_monkey, spork_testicle, and SCO$699FeeTroll. If aristarchus created a Ralph JewHader Nader account here, I'm sure he is aware of that account's history on Slashdot, and it says a lot about his character.

                              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @09:30AM (14 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @09:30AM (#1329496)

                                I assume it's aristarchus creating those accounts, correct?

                                You assume incorrectly. You should stop. You are not very good at it.

                                aristarchus

                                • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Friday October 20 2023, @12:05PM (13 children)

                                  by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 20 2023, @12:05PM (#1329507) Journal
                                  He was correct.
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                                  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:22AM (12 children)

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:22AM (#1329614)

                                    No, he wasn't. Holy Crapola, janrinok! Do you knot realize how much we are aware of your erroneous identifications of ACs? We know who we are, evidently, you do not.

                                    Alleged aristarchus. Possible apk. Could be separatrix. Or the late dalek. Or any of many enemies that janrinok has made for SoylentNews. Maybe a Frojack, or a Francis, or a Fusty.

                                    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:54AM (11 children)

                                      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 21 2023, @07:54AM (#1329619) Journal

                                      Strange then that the submission that comes from the very same hashes as your comment which is signed as 'aristarchus'. And in the last 9 years or more nobody else has ever used those hashes to contact this site. What a coincidence.

                                      Just as were several comments recently. All from the same hashes, all verified by connection to other posts that you have made at the same time where you actually claim to be 'aristarchus'. So it seems that you either are aristarchus or you are frequently claiming to be him. Are you suffering from a multiple personality disorder? You will be treated as 'aristarchus'.

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                                      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:10AM (10 children)

                                        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:10AM (#1329620)

                                        Same hashes, hashes only janrinok can see, the hashes of the aristrarchus. This would be funny, if it did not indicate a serious mental illness. Your data cannot be correct, janrinok, because I know the hashes are not the same. What is wrong with you? Did you have a "incident"? Are you having an "episode"? Do we need to have someone do a wellness check on our dear janrinok, just to make sure he is alright?

                                        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:31AM

                                          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:31AM (#1329627) Journal
                                          And a second submission from aristarchus has recently arrived with the same hashes, but at least your comments' hashes have now changed.
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                                        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:36AM (8 children)

                                          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:36AM (#1329628) Journal

                                          Almost all of the staff can see the hashes. Your latest hashes have only ever been used by Anti-Aristarchus on a single day in 2021. The coincidences just keep mounting don't they?

                                          because I know the hashes are not the same

                                          How do you know which hashes aristarchus is using? How could you possibly know....?

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                                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:57AM (4 children)

                                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @08:57AM (#1329632)

                                            Hash, hash, hash. Is that all you got, old man? You are wrong! You are falsely identifying! You are censoring the wrong people! And, you are being a right dick about it. Well, go on then, run for Speaker of the Active Staff. I wish you well, ruling over the ruins of SoylentNews. You killed it. Your fault. I am not who you think I am.

                                            • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:47AM (3 children)

                                              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:47AM (#1329639) Journal

                                              Give it up. I am aristarchus.

                                              You just signed your previous comment: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&commentsort=0&mode=threadtng&threshold=-1&page=1&cid=1329633#commentwra [soylentnews.org]p

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                                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24 2023, @08:57PM (2 children)

                                                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 24 2023, @08:57PM (#1330138)

                                                You are aware that anyone can type a username in a comment? That his how we know that this one is by you!
                                                .

                                                janrinok

                                                • (Score: 3, Touché) by janrinok on Wednesday October 25 2023, @06:51AM (1 child)

                                                  by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 25 2023, @06:51AM (#1330174) Journal

                                                  Anyone trying to pass themselves off as the only banned person will be treated as the only banned person.

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                                                  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25 2023, @08:36AM

                                                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25 2023, @08:36AM (#1330185)

                                                    And anyone trying to pass themselves off as UID 52 ought to be treated the same!

                                                    janrinok

                                          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:02AM (2 children)

                                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:02AM (#1329633)

                                            Um, janrinok, are you not aware that IP addresses are, in many cases, dynamic? That means they can change, and are not a reliable identifier of an individual user. Use of a VPN make that even the more so, so that the coincidence that one AC has the same hash as some other AC, some years ago, does not remotely mean they are the same person. Do you understand how the internets works? It's not a bunch of trucks, with license plates, it is more like a series of tubes, and you never know where the dump is coming from. So, stop with the foolishness, janrinok. Give it up. I am aristarchus.

                                            • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:20AM (1 child)

                                              by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:20AM (#1329637) Journal

                                              I understand that perfectly. But when IP addresses are only used by a single account in over 9 years then it is a fairly good indicator that they are being used by the same person, particularly when they have used that IP for several years as a named account. A VPN might be used by millions of people, but we are only interested in the ones who access this site. Most hashes are unique. Where they have been used by more than one identity it is clearly obvious to us.

                                              But for the reasons that you state we DO NOT rely solely on IP addresses. There are other correlations that can be made that assist with identifying the user. For example, I can tie 5 different comments into the hashes that are associated with 5 separate comments made over a period of 16 minutes this morning. The chances of those comments coming from completely different users but all commenting in a short time period and all looking remarkably similar to those easily associated with a specific account are astronomically huge.

                                              There are also additional clues such as :

                                              Give it up. I am aristarchus.

                                              In essence, your security sucks.

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                                              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:53AM

                                                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 21 2023, @09:53AM (#1329640)

                                                Random IP assignments by VPNs are no basis for a system of government! Constant references to Monty Python's Holy Grail might be, however.

                              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @08:28PM

                                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2023, @08:28PM (#1329558)

                                I have it on very good confidential information that he is incorrect, and janrinok is lying again. Mendacious staff, active, destroying SN in order to save it.

                        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:30AM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2023, @09:30AM (#1329384)

                          But the standard deviation of the current front page is 8.241590230277742. Still pretty wide, so the comments are not very deep. You do due numbers, don't you?

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @09:23AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2023, @09:23AM (#1329127)

                Flyboy more than a brainiac. Spy more than a scientist. English more than human. Editor more than community member. It all makes sense, now.

            • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @04:11PM (7 children)

              by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 31 2023, @04:11PM (#1330951) Homepage

              Okay, I'm curious about something I hadn't seen before.

              Some of the comments in this thread, including the one I'm replying to, do not have a Moderation dropdown box nor button available, tho I still have mod points.

              At first I thought it only applied to posts already at -1 Spam, but then I noticed a couple of yours also with no mod dropdown available and no moderate button, as if I were out of points (I have three at the moment, or so it tells me).

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              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @06:33PM (6 children)

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 31 2023, @06:33PM (#1330982) Journal

                Can you tell me which comments you are missing the moderation drop down box please?

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                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:05PM (2 children)

                  by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:05PM (#1330988) Homepage

                  A lot.

                  Not missing from yours I'm now replying to.

                  Missing from every comment above
                  https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329380#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
                  (earlier I wound up reading the -1 because they were so funny, and that's where I noticed it missing)

                  and every comment below
                  https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1326591#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]

                  However from
                  https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329378#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
                  to
                  https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=57906&page=1&cid=1329384#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
                  all have mod boxes and buttons.

                  But I won't swear it's the same ones missing as earlier.

                  [SeaMonkey, JS disabled, read at 0 default, system set in stone for years.]

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                  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:03PM (1 child)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:03PM (#1331002) Journal

                    Nobody else seems to have reported the problem and I can see them all, so it sounds as if it might be something specific to your account. I have checked your settings and there doesn't appear to be anything unusual about them. I will have to dig a bit deeper....

                    Please let me know if it repeats on other stories.

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                    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:56PM

                      by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:56PM (#1331013) Homepage

                      Yeah, and I haven't changed anything here in ages.

                      Well, I'll keep an eye out... so far this is the only page where I've seen it, so I'm thinking it's specific to this discussion, and to the spate of you-know-who. Maybe something in the function of restricting comments to logged-in users?

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                • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:08PM (2 children)

                  by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 31 2023, @07:08PM (#1330989) Homepage

                  PS. Only missing on this page. Not seeing the problem on other random pages (just looked again).

                  Maybe Ari took them. :D

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                  • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:08PM (1 child)

                    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:08PM (#1331003) Journal

                    Are you sure that you haven't already moderated on the comments that the option is missing? You can only moderate a comment once.

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                    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:53PM

                      by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 31 2023, @08:53PM (#1331011) Homepage

                      Nope. After I moderate, the mod dropdown and button always remains visible. (Maybe it only disappears with JS active?)

                      If I try to moderate a comment a second time (having forgot I did already), it just reloads the page and nothing changes.

                      Previously, the only comments where I saw no mod boxen were my own.

                      I've never seen today's weirdness before.

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  • (Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday October 01 2023, @03:05PM (2 children)

    by Kell (292) on Sunday October 01 2023, @03:05PM (#1326591)

    MicroWorld BASIC DGOS on the MicroBee. Cutest computer logo ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBee [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:50PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:50PM (#1326643)

      Yes. I remember that logo but could not remember what it went with.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:12AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:12AM (#1326671)

        I had the 128K version as a kid, which actually ran CP/M. Not sure if that was my first OS or whatever was running on my friend's Trash 80???

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by WizardFusion on Sunday October 01 2023, @06:09PM (1 child)

    by WizardFusion (498) on Sunday October 01 2023, @06:09PM (#1326622) Journal

    First ever machine I ever used was a BBC Micro - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Micro [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 2) by kazzie on Sunday October 15 2023, @08:17AM

      by kazzie (5309) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 15 2023, @08:17AM (#1328912)

      Likewise, but within a year or two I was using RISC OS machines at school.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:26PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:26PM (#1326630)

    My first computer was a Commodore 64, so my answer is the KERNAL.

    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Monday October 02 2023, @11:19AM (1 child)

      by looorg (578) on Monday October 02 2023, @11:19AM (#1326695)

      I'll join the C64 party. It's not entirely true, but close enough. I think the first computer I ever used was some little kit machine, then it was a ZX80/81. But none of them where mine and I wouldn't say I used them very much, due to age and well they being kind of crap. The C64 was the first machine that was mine. But then as far as OS go it was nothing much. So perhaps I should have gone with the Amiga as that in some regard had more of an OS that we would still recognize as such today. For most I guess the C64 was just two lines of text and a ready prompt with a blinking cursor that they used to launch their games. It was to me to at the time, it just grew to so much more somewhat later.

      • (Score: 2) by istartedi on Monday October 02 2023, @11:57PM

        by istartedi (123) on Monday October 02 2023, @11:57PM (#1326846) Journal

        I consider the C-64 the first machine I truly used also, even though I was briefly stuck with a TI 99/4A. It was a gift, not of my choosing. That locked down PoS set me back at least a year. There was no way to save programs without costly upgrades, and the low-level PEEK and POKE available on common 8-bit systems of the era was hidden from the user.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:10PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:10PM (#1326768)

      C= 128 for me

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @05:59PM (#1326784)

        TRS-80 Basic

    • (Score: 2) by Mykl on Tuesday October 03 2023, @04:42AM

      by Mykl (1112) on Tuesday October 03 2023, @04:42AM (#1326875)

      Very close between the C64 (at home) and Apple ][e (school) - I can't remember exactly which one came first in terms of using it beyond just launching games.

    • (Score: 1) by SvenErik on Wednesday October 04 2023, @02:09PM

      by SvenErik (2857) on Wednesday October 04 2023, @02:09PM (#1327153) Homepage

      The first one I used were also a Commodore 64 belonging to a friend. Remember buying all those thick, British computer magazines printed on the cheapest paper available with filled with the code for a lot of programs and simple games.

      The next one was a Tiki 100 [wikipedia.org] in high school that used TIKO, a CP/M 2.2-compatible OS.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by KritonK on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:41PM (2 children)

    by KritonK (465) on Sunday October 01 2023, @07:41PM (#1326631)

    CDC SCOPE [wikipedia.org] for the CDC 6000 [wikipedia.org] series.

    Version? What version? Back then, I didn't know that OS versions (or OSs for that matter) were a thing.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @09:26PM (#1326640)

      Yep. The first computer I did actual work on was a CDC Cyber 175 [wikipedia.org] programming in Pascal at university.

      A few years earlier, my dad had dragged me into work and let me futz with some IBM monstrosity (late 60's - text console based lunar lander game - don't touch anything else!)

      First computer of my own was VIC-20.

    • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday October 14 2023, @01:28AM

      by RS3 (6367) on Saturday October 14 2023, @01:28AM (#1328780)

      Ah, thank you. I was fairly young in the 1970s, but had a friend who was a couple of years older who had a login to a large city's school system's main computer- CDC 7600. Yes, acoustical coupler. He taught me some BASIC, and there were a couple of games, and that's all I remember of that. I didn't remember the name of the OS, or whatever friend did to log in. Could the login have been a BASIC interpreter shell? It seems like it was, but again, it was so so long ago, and I was mostly looking over his shoulder.

      I still have my first computer, if you can call it that, a KIM-1 [wikipedia.org].

  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @08:57PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2023, @08:57PM (#1326637)

    Technically, the poll is incorrect. Neither MS-DOS nor Windows were Operating Systems. In fact, quite the opposite, Unoperating sysems, you might say.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by bart9h on Monday October 02 2023, @12:29AM

      by bart9h (767) on Monday October 02 2023, @12:29AM (#1326657)

      Windows may be an unoperating system, but DOS is more like an operating nonsystem.

    • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2023, @12:05PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 02 2023, @12:05PM (#1326702) Journal

      DOS means "disk operating system", right? The various DOS programs did indeed operate the disks, so that you could access the data, and do things. Today, we still have DOS incorporated into the broader operating system, but it's still a "disk operating system". Whenever we decide to obsolete disks, and eliminate them, then we will no longer have a "disk operating system", but we will still have OSs.

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:20AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:20AM (#1326887)

        Runaway's take on technology is always the Arkansasian low-rent trailer trash opinion. I mean, it is nice that his opinion is here, but, seriously, it does not count for much.

        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:14AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:14AM (#1327114)

          Why is this spam modded? It is not unsolicited commercial messaging. It is not repetitive. It is relevant and useful information. Wait, that is why?

          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:13AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:13AM (#1328519)

            Runaway only can get a disk to operate in his double-wide. Sad, but true. And, he is a deplorable racist.

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:11AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2023, @08:11AM (#1328518)

      Telling, is it not, that there is no option for Linux, or Minux, or any Unix OS, in the choices? Do you think that maybe, this poll has corporate sponsors? Janrinok?

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @07:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2023, @07:58AM (#1328989)

        Children, poseurs, and younglings! No one ever tested metal with Eniac? No? How about Multics? Would you like to play a game, in COBOL? And no option for the survivor, the winner, the technologically fit Operating system, before which all the others mentioned are mere toys of hobbyists? UNIX! This says an awful lot about the "active losers" of SoylentNews, if the comments here are all we can come up with! But evidently they are. Sad.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by stormreaver on Sunday October 01 2023, @10:32PM

    by stormreaver (5101) on Sunday October 01 2023, @10:32PM (#1326645)

    RS-DOS on the CoCo 2, though calling RS-DOS an operating system is a stretch. OS-9 Level 2 was my first real operating system.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday October 02 2023, @07:40AM (1 child)

    by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Monday October 02 2023, @07:40AM (#1326682) Journal

    Scientifically pirated DOS/VSE OS on EC1040, a clone of IBM System/370 machine.
    I think the CPU itself was EC1044, all fresh new TTL logic. It was an in-site replacement of Siemens 2000, ancient DTL logic.

    That one was the very first machine I really punched my own program for, at age 14. So it does count as 'first use'.
    PL/I code. Handed cards into feeder myself. It compiled and worked perfectly on a first run of a job.

    Frankly, I wrote some programs for several other platforms even before, but did not managed to get access to them.
    A word of advice: use pencil and paper to write your program first, before any editing. It helps you to think straight.
    Do not fall into vicious edit/compile/try cycle. In any language. That's the main cause of broken software out there of current days.

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:13PM (#1327714)

      I used pen and paper too, then discovered that when you're not into figuring algorithms out it's just quicker to try what works in the debugger then discovered perplexity.ai, which does not require login, and it's the ideal boilerplate/code examples generator. I'm told there are specialized tools for code refactoring and stuff.

  • (Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Monday October 02 2023, @08:18AM (1 child)

    by Dr Spin (5239) on Monday October 02 2023, @08:18AM (#1326685)

    George 2 on an ICL1900e was the first machine that ran code written by me (written in Fortran4, Algo60, and PLAN (1900 assembler).

    I did have prior contact with IBJOB on an IBM709 and later an IBM7090 through helping my mum, but that was mostly helping fix the JCL code.

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    • (Score: 2) by OrugTor on Thursday October 19 2023, @04:17PM

      by OrugTor (5147) on Thursday October 19 2023, @04:17PM (#1329419)

      Technically, the Georges were (are?) not operating systems. IIRC George N ran as an application program. The operating system was the mysterious entity known as "the executive".

  • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2023, @12:00PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 02 2023, @12:00PM (#1326700) Journal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRSDOS [wikipedia.org]

    TRSDOS should not be confused with Tandy DOS, a version of MS-DOS licensed from Microsoft for Tandy's x86 line of personal computers (PCs).

    I included the quote, because many will assume that TRSDOS was just MSDOS. When they switched to Tandy DOS, then it was just MSDOS.

  • (Score: 2) by Ingar on Monday October 02 2023, @12:37PM (3 children)

    by Ingar (801) on Monday October 02 2023, @12:37PM (#1326709) Homepage Journal

    MS-DOS 3.3. It came with a big fat manual and I learned a lot of English from it.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:38AM (#1326892)

      This explains much more than you intended it to. Sorry.

    • (Score: 1) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday October 03 2023, @06:08PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 03 2023, @06:08PM (#1326993) Journal

      The big fat manual. The first real, physical manual I ever possessed, was for MSDOS 5. I think it was 5.0, don't think there was a 5.1 or higher, but I can't remember. I'm pretty sure the manual is still around here somewhere, buried deep among stuff I haven't used for years.

      I devoured that manual, then went back to discover all the cool stuff I had missed. Dear Wife blew her stack when the computer booted with a multi-config screen that she couldn't decipher. (Basically, a menu, where you chose to boot up for gamine, or general computing, with or without network support, how to configure memory, etc.)

    • (Score: 2) by number11 on Sunday October 15 2023, @07:09PM

      by number11 (1170) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 15 2023, @07:09PM (#1328961)

      CP/M came with a fat manual, too. I used to hand the book to people and challenge them to tell me what the first sentence (paragraph?) meant. It was pretty impenetrable. Unlike IBM's manuals, where you had to stop and think about every sentence, but there was heavily-distilled meaning, and not a character was wasted.

      Fortunately, if your computer came with CP/M installed (as opposed to home brew), all you really needed was a cheat sheet of commands.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @01:32PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @01:32PM (#1326713)

    Before moving to MS-DOS I had an Apple ][e and used the OS on that. Not Mac/Lisa, before that I believe. 64k of RAM total. Fun times and learned a lot.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @03:20PM (#1327716)

      The environment in the ROM of the ][e was applesoft basic, the actual DOS was DOS 3.x, most probably DOS 3.3. Later you could use ProDOS.

  • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Monday October 02 2023, @01:43PM

    by Snotnose (1623) on Monday October 02 2023, @01:43PM (#1326714)

    On my trusty TRS-80. I think I also had CPM on it.

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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:44PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:44PM (#1326741)

    Interesting how this becomes a man problem, and not a woman problem. The blame here is entirely shifted towards the male of the species. While women are somehow innocent victims, as per usual. Are there no AI boyfriends, there are. They just don't seem to be problematic. Which is odd.

    On the front page. After some other questionable stories this summary shows how sad this site has become.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @04:41PM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @04:41PM (#1326761)

      QQ

      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @06:51PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @06:51PM (#1326793)

        Found the woman hating incel!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:17PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:17PM (#1326838)

          We don't hate you. But we despised you even before you revealed that you're a female. More QQ for you.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:42PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @10:42PM (#1326840)

            thesaurus.com

          • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:25AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @08:25AM (#1326889)

            Wait, holey fuck, so to speak. There are only two women on SoylentNews, Elizabeth and Azuma. We all know this. And, we all treat our female solylentils with respect and courtesy. Who are you suggesting is a covert sockpuppet female? Runaway? No, more likely khallow. Oh, wait, VLM presents as someone in the closet, in the closet with chromas, but then, neither of them is female. Oh, this whole gender thing is too confusing. I am going to give it a rest.

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @05:56PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @05:56PM (#1326992)

              I am pretty certain that there are more than two women on SN. I'll not identify those people whom I think are female, nor will I identify those of whom I'm nearly certain. If they wanted you to know, they would have told you. For that matter, if they wanted me to know for sure, they would have told me. Maybe you can put a survey in your journal, asking all females to identify themselves, and to give you enough information to doxx them?

              • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:16AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2023, @08:16AM (#1327911)

                Yes, two females, not counting Vanessa, and they are both fake. Your point is? Get thee back to Grinder!

                • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2023, @07:46AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 22 2023, @07:46AM (#1329781)

                  You forgot Sam, and khallow (based on his preferred body type.)

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:48PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @03:48PM (#1326743)

    https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/10/02/1540214 [soylentnews.org]

    AC comments were not turned off so they must scrap the story and re-publish to disable AC comments again. Sorry for your discussions teehee.

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @07:43PM (6 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 02 2023, @07:43PM (#1326807)

      Noticed that one of the editors forgot about the AC ban. Runaway's early onset is actually right about on time, these days. Who would have thought that SN would become a hotbed of Alzheimer's and conservative woman hating! Operating systems? Pshaw! In my day, we had to hand crank the calculating machine, to get it started.

      • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @09:18AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 03 2023, @09:18AM (#1326900)

        Even Runaway may have noticed that when he allows comments on his journal, he gets close to 200 comments, and when he does not, it is more like 6. I am sure janrinok notices the same thing about front page articles that do not allow AC comments. Choked off, SN is dying.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:17AM (4 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @08:17AM (#1327116)

          I love the smell of Truth being Spam-modded in the morning! It smells like, corruption and collapse.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @11:36AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 04 2023, @11:36AM (#1327138)

            Relevancy? What did the post have to do with the poll or question? Nothing? Go write it in your diary or blog.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:04PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 07 2023, @08:04PM (#1327756)

              Learn what words mean. Spam, off topic, troll, and flamebait are all very distinct options.

              • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday October 08 2023, @11:22AM (1 child)

                by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 08 2023, @11:22AM (#1327813) Journal

                Repetitive, off-topic comments all forecasting the demise of the site that have been made for over 4 years now are Spam.

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                • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 08 2023, @07:27PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 08 2023, @07:27PM (#1327854)

                  Repetitive assertions that criticisms of piss-poor community management are spam, are spam. Mod accordingly.

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