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posted by janrinok on Monday March 02 2015, @08:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-a-different-equality dept.

The Los Angeles Times is running an article describing the challenges faced by Asian Americans as they apply for acceptance to top colleges.

The article describes the impact that their race and ethnicity has on their SAT scores:

Lee's next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant's race is worth.

She points to the first column. African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column. “Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps. Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

“Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,” Lee says.

A core tenet of the American philosophy, even from before the days of the Founding Fathers, is that through hard work and excellence one should be able to obtain success in life. But is this ideal even possible when certain underachieving groups are given artificial advantages, while those with the most merit are artificially held back?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 02 2015, @04:05PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 02 2015, @04:05PM (#151920) Journal

    With any luck, you'll be ready to tackle all the tribal feuds that plague the mideast, much of south-west Asia, and other regions of the world. Good luck with that! I can imagine that without tribal feuds, the mideast would have become the cultural center of the world long ago!

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday March 02 2015, @04:15PM

    Not bloody likely. Every nation in the mid-east except Israel by law and culture oppresses or kills people for being anything outside the heterosexual-male-muslim demographic. And those are the "moderates" we keep hearing about. Hate of everyone unlike you is not a solid foundation for a center of culture.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 02 2015, @07:42PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 02 2015, @07:42PM (#152056) Journal

      How can you even say that? Their culture is DURABLE. It lasts. Remember when all of (or at least the vast majority) Europeans were laboring under an oppressive church, suffering with all kinds of crazy superstitions, sleeping in rat-infested houses, shitting in the streets? The Mideast didn't go through those dark ages along with Europe.

      Islam has withstood the test of time better than Christianity has, truth be told.

      Now, FFS, don't take that to mean that I like or respect Islam. I'm merely pointing out facts.

      For the MOST durable civilization known to man, look to China. India is no laggard in durability either. Europeans? Just recent upstarts, on the grand scale of things.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday March 02 2015, @08:18PM

        You missed the important part... "civilization" requires that you be civilized. They are not. Civilized societies do not push their ideals upon others via force.

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        • (Score: 2) by TK on Tuesday March 03 2015, @02:48PM

          by TK (2760) on Tuesday March 03 2015, @02:48PM (#152519)

          Civilized adj
          See: Us

          Barbaric adj
          See: Them

          It's all relative. They may be forcing their ideals of theocratic law on others via localized violence while we force our ideals of capitalistic boot-licking on them via globalized violence.

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          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 03 2015, @02:59PM

            Wait, have we been invading countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan and nobody told me? Seems to me it was the whole Arab Spring thing where the people demanded what they wanted all through the region that got us where we are now.

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