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posted by martyb on Monday March 30 2015, @06:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the first-you-create-a-commISSion dept.

Discovery Magazine reports that in a landmark decision Russia has announced initial plans to build a new orbital space station together with NASA to replace the International Space Station (ISS), which is set to operate until 2024.

Igor Komarov, the head of Russia's Roscosmos space agency, made the announcement flanked by NASA administrator Charles Bolden at Russia's Baikonur launchpad in Kazakhstan. "Roscosmos together with NASA will work on the programme of a future orbital station," said Komarov. "We agreed that the group of countries taking part in the ISS project will work on the future project of a new orbital station." Russia had said earlier this year it planned to create its own space station after 2024 using its modules from the ISS after it is mothballed. The two agencies will be unifying their standards and systems of manned space programs, according to Komarov. “This is very important to future missions and stations.”

The next goal for the two agencies is a joint mission to Mars said NASA chief Charles Bolden. “Our area of cooperation will be Mars. We are discussing how best to use the resources, the finance, we are setting time frames and distributing efforts in order to avoid duplication.”

 
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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by AnonTechie on Monday March 30 2015, @06:24AM

    by AnonTechie (2275) on Monday March 30 2015, @06:24AM (#164085) Journal

    NASA Says No Plans for ISS Replacement with Russia:

    NASA said March 28 it welcomed a Russian commitment to continue operations of the International Space Station beyond 2020, but indicated there were no firm plans to work together on a successor space station.

    The agency responded to comments made by the head of Roscosmos, Igor Komarov, earlier in the day that suggested the two space agencies had not only agreed to extend operations of the ISS to 2024, but also to replace the ISS with a new station of some kind after 2024.

    http://spacenews.com/nasa-says-no-plans-for-iss-replacement-with-russia/ [spacenews.com]

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday March 30 2015, @06:31AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 30 2015, @06:31AM (#164088) Journal
    "If we let NASA doing it without us, they might actually do it and leave us with no lever left for blackmailing [universetoday.com]"
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    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Monday March 30 2015, @08:02AM

      by isostatic (365) on Monday March 30 2015, @08:02AM (#164102) Journal

      Strong words front country that can't out a man in space

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @02:41PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @02:41PM (#164261)

        Well, since we don't have that Putin unhealthy obsession with homosexuality, we don't feel we need to out any of our astronauts.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday March 30 2015, @03:59PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Monday March 30 2015, @03:59PM (#164321)

          On the other hand, if you're ever going to out someone, space is probably the best place to do it...

          "our leading man was so gay,
          he nearly flew away.
          Where did we go right?"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @04:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @04:47PM (#164351)

      Translation of the NASA answer: "Russia is the new devil according to the policy of the day. We can't paint our politicians bad by cooperating!"

  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @06:43AM (#164091)

    Quick, somebody tell me if the Rooshkies are good guys or bad guys now. I don't know what to think.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by geb on Monday March 30 2015, @11:15AM

      by geb (529) on Monday March 30 2015, @11:15AM (#164171)

      Unreliable would be a better description.

      They've done some bad things, but as the russian astroturf army is keen to point out with their constant whataboutism, so has everybody else.

      What makes Russia stand out is constant wavering between patriotic isolationism and trying to make friends.

      "We don't need you. We don't need anybody! Russia is strong!"

      "Come join our international project! Trust us with your money! You can trust us, because we need you."

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by VLM on Monday March 30 2015, @02:52PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 30 2015, @02:52PM (#164272)

        They're bipolar and we're tripolar with an extra third state of "bomb the hell out of some random brown country".

        You take the two craziest most unpredictable girlfriends you've had, you've met, you've ever heard of, and reality TV show style make them roommates, and you pretty much got USA/Russia international relations for the last century or so, complete with screaming fights and alliances and grudges and just sheer madness.

        Fundamentally both cultures make a big deal out of masculinity and forbidding women from leadership positions while pretending not to do so to keep them pacified, and then comically both act like two stereotypical hormonal teenage girls with severe PMS locked in a reality TV apartment together. It would be pretty funny if it weren't so dangerous.

        "I cannot believe you dared to post on facebook that deploying my long range ballistic missile make my butt look fat" "I only did that because you were flirting with that cute Cuban guy you know I used to hate because they were connected to the JFK assassination back when grannie was our age but now I have a crush on him because he's just so cute and everyone other than me likes him anyway so now I like him too" "So what, a boy on twitter posted that you swallowed half of eastern Europe and liked doing it and I wasn't surprised to read that at all"

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by kaszz on Monday March 30 2015, @09:32AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday March 30 2015, @09:32AM (#164138) Journal

    Does this mean that the Russian army will free those ethnic Russians on Mars from the fascist dust on Mars? :P

  • (Score: 2) by sudo rm -rf on Monday March 30 2015, @10:21AM

    by sudo rm -rf (2357) on Monday March 30 2015, @10:21AM (#164153) Journal

    Roskosmos' plans to re-use the russian modules for another space station are not new. Neither is the idea to seek collaboration with other space agencies like NASA or ESA. The code-name for the project is OPSEK [wikipedia.org], the Russian abbr. for "Orbital Piloted Assembly and Experiment Complex".
    More information can be found here [russianspaceweb.com] (2009)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @05:09PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @05:09PM (#164364)

      > OPSEK

      From the headline I thought it was going to be a russification of opsec - that they were going to use the joint program to conduct a little industrial espionage on the american space program...

      • (Score: 2) by tibman on Tuesday March 31 2015, @01:36AM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 31 2015, @01:36AM (#164589)

        You're thinking of SAEDA : )

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @11:35AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 30 2015, @11:35AM (#164175)

    So, let's see...

    Russia is upgrading their military:
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/russias-military-upgrade-wont-be-stopped-2015-3?r=US [businessinsider.com]

    And leaving ISS to create their own space station *while* colonizing the Moon:
    http://rt.com/news/157800-russia-moon-colonization-plan/ [rt.com]

    At the same time they are running out foreign currency:
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/russian-currency-reserves-are-running-out-2015-2?r=US [businessinsider.com]
    ... and price of brent is in 50 dollars.

    Something tells me that the Russians are heading into some serious monetary problems in the near future.

    • (Score: 2) by TLA on Monday March 30 2015, @05:29PM

      by TLA (5128) on Monday March 30 2015, @05:29PM (#164373) Journal

      because they're running out of foreign cash??

      What, their mineral and hydrocarbon wealth is nothing? Fuck's sake, they supply gas to half of Europe! They're NOT going broke ANY time soon!

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      • (Score: 2) by RedGreen on Monday March 30 2015, @06:22PM

        by RedGreen (888) on Monday March 30 2015, @06:22PM (#164404)

        "because they're running out of foreign cash??

        What, their mineral and hydrocarbon wealth is nothing? Fuck's sake, they supply gas to half of Europe! They're NOT going broke ANY time soon!"

        Must have missed the if you spend more than you take in you are broke/on the way to going broke lesson. Not really surprising you did with the mentality of most people in the world today...

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    • (Score: 2) by morgauxo on Tuesday March 31 2015, @07:06PM

      by morgauxo (2082) on Tuesday March 31 2015, @07:06PM (#164967)

      "price of brent is in 50 dollars."

      Ahh.. there's the crux of what is really bothering you. You are complaining about the price of your favorite russian gigolo!

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by morgauxo on Monday March 30 2015, @01:07PM

    by morgauxo (2082) on Monday March 30 2015, @01:07PM (#164209)

    Another expensive spacecraft that only circles the earth like a kid on a trike that isn't allowed to cross the street.

    Way to ensure that yet another generation goes nowhere!