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Tim O'Reilly has advocated for the idea of algorithmic regulation - reducing the role of people and replacing them with automated systems in order to make goverment policy less biased and more efficient. But the idea has been criticized as utopianism, where actual implementations are likely to make government more opaque and even less responsive to the citizens who have the least say in the operation of society.
Now, as part of New America's annual conference What Drives Innovation Around the Country? Virginia Eubanks has written an essay examining such automation in the cases of pre-crime and welfare fraud. Is it possible to automate away human judgment from the inherently human task of governance and still achieve humane results? Or is inefficiency and waste an unavoidable part of the process?
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 08 2015, @12:00AM
Actually, that move overseas is unrelated to the minimum wage considering the timing being entirely off. Sorry, but it really does look like it's greed related. It is much closer related to "impedance mismatch" between the economies.
Well, of course it does. But that's just a problem with the observer. Because why would anyone move low skilled jobs overseas when they can hire minimum wage US workers for several times the cost?
You must really like welfare and food stamps, because without a minimum wage, we'd be paying out a lot more for either those or for coroners to carry the dead from the streets.
Ever think of encouraging employment instead?
Minimum wage isn't allowing families to make ends meet, what do you think half that will do?
Not much difference really. Most people don't have wages near minimum wage. And low wage jobs serve a very important role. They allow people to learn how to work so that they can have better jobs in the future. By having these jobs we are creating a more skilled workforce and a better society in the future.
Note tha ta job that will not support you is not actually a job worth having. If you're going to starve in a month, what sense is there in giving all your remaining time to someone else to stretch it out to 6 weeks?
Typical response when you have shit for an argument. We didn't want those jobs anyway. The job that is not "worth having" is better than not having a job.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Friday May 08 2015, @12:57AM
Ever think of encouraging employment instead?
II was referring to people who are employed but not making a living wage, you know, a wage sufficient to live?
Not much difference really. Most people don't have wages near minimum wage. And low wage jobs serve a very important role. They allow people to learn how to work so that they can have better jobs in the future. By having these jobs we are creating a more skilled workforce and a better society in the future.
OMG, REALLY! You're trying to say it's a favor to them?!? That has GOT to be the most depraved claim I have heard this year! It is the moral equivilent of "The bitch wanted it!"
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 08 2015, @01:19AM
II was referring to people who are employed but not making a living wage, you know, a wage sufficient to live?
I don't care. I was pointing out something more important than feelgood. People working is better than people not working.
OMG, REALLY! You're trying to say it's a favor to them?!? That has GOT to be the most depraved claim I have heard this year! It is the moral equivilent of "The bitch wanted it!"
No, it's beneficial to us that they have jobs rather than not. The obvious rebuttal to your whole line of thinking is that a wage below the so-called "living wage" is higher than zero. I'd rather that people were paid to do something productive than they not be paid and not do anything productive.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Friday May 08 2015, @02:46AM
You must not be aware that at some point, the profitability of an economic activity can get so low that it is no longer worth doing at all. That has to factor in the opportunity costs. So no, some work is not always better than none.
If what they are being paid for is productive enough to be worthwhile, their employers will find a way to pay them enough to live on if they have to. It is much better for society if they do.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 08 2015, @03:43AM
If what they are being paid for is productive enough to be worthwhile, their employers will find a way to pay them enough to live on if they have to.
And if they aren't worth minimum wage, then they don't get paid at all. That's what's happened to 33% of US residents without a diploma in 2010.
It is much better for society if they do.
And it is much worse for society, if these people aren't employed. Look we're talking past each other at this point. All I can do is summarize my viewpoint. The world is growing wealthier at a remarkable rate. But the US isn't partaking in that growth. You should be asking "What are we doing wrong?" not "Let's dig the hole deeper."
I think it's for one basic reason, the US has put too many rules, regulations, taxes/fees, and other costs in front of the things that should be very valuable to us, particularly, employment. And the US worker should be taking a haircut. It's not the easy, low competition era of the 50s and 60s any more. Everyone has stepped up their game, the US and the rest of the developed world should do so as well.