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GungnirSniper writes:
A small study done by The Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at The University of California, San Francisco, "suggests that e-cigarettes don't actually help people to quit smoking." However, of the 949 smokers in the study, only 88 used e-cigarettes, causing the study's researchers to "admit that their findings should be viewed with some caution."
World Science reports "They also found that e-cigarette use was more commmon among women, younger adults and people with less education." Last year, the US Centers for Disease Control reported e-cigarette use more than doubled among U.S. middle and high school students from 2011-2012. The lack of solid research, potential youth market, and abundance of caution have had anti-tobacco activists and researchers pushing for a ban on advertising of e-cigarettes.
NPR has a recently story about "vaping" (using e-cigarettes) indoors and in the workplace.
If you smoke, have you been able to cut back your smoking or quit thanks to electronic cigarettes? If you do not smoke, does it bother you that others use e-cigarettes indoors?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 25 2014, @08:57PM
Quite. I suppose you're also against the availability of alcohol and caffiene, both of which have detrimental side effects?
Speaking as someone who's imbibing clouds of delicious mint via a Vivi Nova tank mounted to a Vamo right now...
I agree entirely, and wish I could legally get away with punching the face of any idiot who repeats the bullshit of, "Hurr, it's just water vapor."
No, it isn't, and yes, it should be banned at workplaces, et cetera.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 26 2014, @12:56AM
caffiene
I've never heard about any effects of second-hand caffeine.
(Note that the i before e rule doesn't work here; you're due for installing a spell checker.)
Illuminate me about the dangers of being around coffee drinkers or I'm calling red herring.
alcohol
As long as they lock up the public drunks--especially the mean drunks who get violent--I'm fine with that easily-abused substance.
If you're a drunk and you neglect your kids, I expect the system to take you in hand as well.
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Now, if smokers could breath in every bit of their burning shit and never breath any of it back out, I'd be fine with that as well.
That isn't what happens, however.
The cigar/cigarette/pipe burns in the open air, smokers exhale their foul crap, and their clothes and persons stink of their habit for hours after they feed their addictions.
I haven't encountered anyone vaping yet, but others in this thread have said that it stinks, so I'm going to cast my vote on the NO side.
I note that the Los Angeles City Council has said NO.
There are claims by nicotine addict Brad Friedman [google.com] that this is wrong-headed and that e-cigs help folks kick their addiction.
Posts in this thread noting an INCREASED consumption have me on the skeptical side of his claims.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by chromas on Wednesday March 26 2014, @01:58AM
You're talking about second-hand effects but he said side effects. Therefore, although your points are interesting, they also comprise a non sequitur.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 26 2014, @02:22AM
Oops. There I go thinking about the effects that people's proclivities have on *others* when I should have been worried about those individuals' self-destructive tendencies.
Even then, I'd like to see a link to harm done by caffeine or at least a mention of what that harm might be.
...and how many liters of Jolt it takes to get there.
--gewg_
(Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday March 26 2014, @05:53AM
That's becaue they're masked by the effects of first hand caffeine for the most part. If you are concerned about the second hand nicotine, you must be in an absolute panic over the much more harmful VOCs found in most offices.
I would sooner have perfumes and colognes banned many of those are sickening (but less so than 'air fresheners').
(Score: 1) by Fry on Wednesday March 26 2014, @07:20AM
caffiene
(Note that the i before e rule doesn't work here; you're due for installing a spell checker.)
Now, if smokers could breath in every bit of their burning shit and never breath any of it back out, I'd be fine with that as well.
FYI, the word you're looking for (twice) is breathe, so I guess you're due for installing a grammar checker? :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 26 2014, @12:53PM
breathe
I knew that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law [wikipedia.org]
twice
Yeah. {sheepish look}
-- gewg_