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posted by mrcoolbp on Tuesday March 25 2014, @08:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the quitting-is-for-quitters dept.

GungnirSniper writes:

A small study done by The Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education at The University of California, San Francisco, "suggests that e-cigarettes don't actually help people to quit smoking." However, of the 949 smokers in the study, only 88 used e-cigarettes, causing the study's researchers to "admit that their findings should be viewed with some caution."

World Science reports "They also found that e-cigarette use was more commmon among women, younger adults and people with less education." Last year, the US Centers for Disease Control reported e-cigarette use more than doubled among U.S. middle and high school students from 2011-2012. The lack of solid research, potential youth market, and abundance of caution have had anti-tobacco activists and researchers pushing for a ban on advertising of e-cigarettes.

NPR has a recently story about "vaping" (using e-cigarettes) indoors and in the workplace.

If you smoke, have you been able to cut back your smoking or quit thanks to electronic cigarettes? If you do not smoke, does it bother you that others use e-cigarettes indoors?

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  • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday March 26 2014, @12:51AM

    by isostatic (365) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @12:51AM (#21261) Journal

    Sure, they're great for you

    The question is, should those of us that don't have a nicotine addiction suffer? At the moment smoking in workplaces, planes, bars, etc tends to be banned, but e-cigs aren't.

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  • (Score: 2) by zim on Wednesday March 26 2014, @01:02AM

    by zim (1251) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @01:02AM (#21265)
    I'll be behind a ban on nicotine dispensing devices like this.

    Right after we put out a ban on perfume, aftershave, bodysprays, and all the other millions of smelly chemicals (most of which we know exactly how toxic they are) people cover themselves in.

    Because so far... Nicotine hasn't caused me any physical harm. But i've encountered more than a few of the other things that will give an instant headache, and my eyes, nose, sinuses swell right up and cause physical pain.

    Why should i have to suffer because of what other people are doing.

    Of all the things in the air... Nicotine itself is pretty damm harmless. On par with caffiene.
  • (Score: 1) by SlySmiles on Wednesday March 26 2014, @04:30AM

    by SlySmiles (3841) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @04:30AM (#21329)
    Seriously get off your high horse. You really think the water vapour is so bad? Why do I have to listen to your noise pollution or be polluted by your olfaction? And don't take me on a ride about living with the pollution you make with your decadent western lifestyle.
    The only reason why these are being banned anywhere is not health based it's because they might remind people of smoking. On a personal note I switched to ecigs last August and am impressed how well they work. I really enjoy mine, so it might not be an aid to quitting but a replacement.

    In fact let me emphasize this point: They work incredibly well because this still give you pleasure, unlike every other replacement solution. I've quit before by just stopping, but the real problem lies in actually liking to smoke. ECigs remove that obstacle.
    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Kalkin on Wednesday March 26 2014, @05:09AM

      by Kalkin (2747) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @05:09AM (#21342)

      Well said. Even though it isn't purely water vapor, as said above, second hand vapor exposure might give you as much nicotine as a potato but probably not as much as an eggplant.

      The main ingredient in the vaping juice is the same OSHA approved ingredient in theater smoke and the vapor is also approved for sanitizing air handling equipment in institutional settings.
      So actually, the main constituents of the vapor have been extensively studied and approved for use in public spaces and the workplace.

      Nicotine is not the part of tobacco that kills you, it is the part that keeps you coming back. Nicotine addiction without the combustion products is comparable to caffeine addiction medically.

      Who cares if e-cigs help you quit nicotine? Quitting the highly dangerous habit of huffing combustion products is massive harm reduction.
      Is vaping good for you? Of course not. Is it killing you? Probably not.

      I have been vaping for over 3 years now. After the first 120 days, I tried to smoke a cigar and almost threw up after burning about half an inch. I had to throw it away and hurriedly brush my teeth and wash my hands to lose the nausea. I was disappointed at first but rapidly became very pleased that I am now incapable of smoking burning tobacco.
      I wish I could permanently give up nicotine but I appear to be closer to Mark Twain; "Quitting smoking is easy, I have done it a thousand times".
      In lieu of quitting nicotine, I will happily settle for massive harm reduction.

      As for people smelling it in public places, my experience says that this smell is psychosomatic. I vape on airplanes and the folks around me never even know. Just hold the vapor in for 5 seconds and hardly any visible vapor is exhaled. Direct that downward and nobody ever knows.
      If you can smell it without knowing it is there you are probably dealing with a broken ecig.
      Anyway, end rant.

      Just say know
  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday March 26 2014, @06:04AM

    by sjames (2882) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @06:04AM (#21357) Journal

    Have you ever been around one when you didn't know it until later? They don't smell at all like cigarettes.

    If the person inhales and holds it, nothing much is exhaled at all.

    If e-cigs are to be banned, I would say perfumes and colognes should go with them.