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Journal by wjwlsn

I'm seeing a lot of unwarranted (IMO) down-moderation lately, mostly on posts that express a minority opinion or that question a majority opinion (judging minority/majority based on discussion context). As a result, there are many posts ranked -1 or 0 that probably deserve higher scores.

I'd like to remind moderators that you're supposed to "Concentrate more on promoting than demoting". In the meantime, I'm going to spend all my mod points on posts that I think have been modded down unfairly. I encourage others to consider spending some mod points in this fashion as well.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 28 2014, @05:42AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 28 2014, @05:42AM (#22395)

    What's wrong w/ modding something you disagree w/ down?

    There is no -1, Disagree mod. Moderation is supposed to be used to rate comments based on how much they contribute to the value of the discussion. I very rarely issue negative mods: there was only one non-anonymous user [soylentnews.org] on whose posts I frequently used them. Not because I disagreed with him, but because a lot of what he's written seems to start off reasonable then go off on an insane off-topic tangent, though occasionally it seems he forgets to go off the deep end and actually writes something worthwhile. Go have a look at that guy's posts. I wonder how that fellow had the energy to write such walls of text that often seem on-topic for a few paragraphs and then go absolutely batshit crazy. The mod system was created to rein in people like him who seem to be here just to lower the SNR of the discussion by writing off-topic and/or blatantly trollish stuff.

  • (Score: 2) by wjwlsn on Friday March 28 2014, @06:11AM

    by wjwlsn (171) on Friday March 28 2014, @06:11AM (#22399) Homepage Journal

    Agree 100%. Also, I've noticed the same thing about the particular user you mentioned -- occasionally insightful, but usually off-topic and nutty. By the way, thank you for writing "rein in" properly instead of the incorrect, but apparently more common, "reign in". That particular error really gets to me, nearly as much as "for all intensive purposes". Arg.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by fliptop on Friday March 28 2014, @11:54AM

    by fliptop (1666) on Friday March 28 2014, @11:54AM (#22464) Journal

    There is no -1, Disagree mod.

    Yes, but overrated does mean "assessed too highly." If something is rated +5 and I think it's wrong then it's overrated IMHO.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 31 2014, @07:29AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 31 2014, @07:29AM (#23469)

      'Overrated' should mean that you believe that other moderators who have modded up the post have assessed it too highly. It means you disagree with the moderation it has been given, which is a different question from disagreeing with the post. You seem to be wilfully misunderstanding this very basic idea behind moderation. If you disagree with what was said in the post, then the right thing to do is not to use what mod points you might have been given to mod it down, but to reply and say why you disagree. I've been caught writing something factually wrong more than once on the old site (not yet here: I've not posted too much yet...), and responses pointing this out were more telling than moderation.

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Monday March 31 2014, @04:18PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday March 31 2014, @04:18PM (#23630) Homepage Journal

      Exactly. I've been too busy to be here much the last week so maybe things have changed, but rather than bad downmoderation I see way too many +5s on comments that should be +3 at most. Also, folks should remember that trying to be funny is dangerous to your karma. If your joke doesn't at least make me grin, I'll mod it overrated. If anyone seems to get modded down every time they try to crack a joke they should consider the possibility that they may just not be funny. Think "Lt. Steve" in Good Morning, Vietnam.

      And any factually incorrect comment that isn't funny is obviously overrated.

      But I see very few -1s and most of the zeros are ACs. An AC's comment has to be really good before I'll mod it up, I usually don't even moderate ACs.

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