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posted by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-with-longer-half-lifes dept.

Ok, I meant to have an open forum about moderation *way* before this point. I did read the various feedback and comments left on my journal and the last moderation, and have made some changes to the moderation system.

First, mod points now expire after eight hours. I'm willing to extend this to 12 or 16 hours after I'm sure comments will still reach +5 fairly regularly. With luck, we'll get to the point we can extend mod-points to last a full 24 hours which I suspect will end most of the complaining on them vanishing too soon.

Second, I'd like to open the floor to making a more fundamental change to the moderation system. Specifically, allowing people to post AND moderate in the same discussion. We've seen plenty of posts get up to +5, which means 3-4 people gave up their right to post to keep our comments high quality. This was brought up during our last plea for stories, and I wanted to solicit more feedback before unleashing this upon the site.

I've floated the idea on IRC, and it seems there's a fair bit of support for removing the post/moderate split, though we'd need to make some changes to prevent rampant abuse. Here's what was suggested to keep things sane:
  • Mod points won't roll back after a post
  • Moderators can post in the same discussion (either before or after moderating), but can not moderate replies to their posts.

I've heard various ideas such as limiting it only after mods have expended their points (this will require implementing a cooldown to prevent a user from getting points again too soon). I want to hear your feedback, and I'll roll together something for the next major update of the site. Leave your comments

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  • (Score: 2) by lhsi on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:25AM

    by lhsi (711) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:25AM (#23964) Journal

    I hit 50 and stayed there for a while. Then someone disagreed with a comment I wrote on something and it went to 49, before going to to 50 again within a day or so, so I think you're right in practice.

    Is it possible to tweak how the over/underrated mods are used? I have seen a comment get "Overrated" before any other mods on it, which is effectively saying "This comment disagrees with my world view and I don't like it, even if it is correct". Maybe you could limit downmodding (either to only those with a certain level of Karma, or only one or two out of the ten can be used for downmodding - and only if you have already spent 5 of them or something).

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:41AM

    by zocalo (302) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:41AM (#23972)
    I think it will also (currently) drop back from the cap if someone moderates one of your posts in a discussion and then posts themselves, thus requiring the moderation to be undone. The system presumably doesn't (and probably can't) check whether you were already at the Karma Cap when you got the mod point, so deducts the point(s) from your score regardless.
    UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:45AM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <> on Tuesday April 01 2014, @08:45AM (#23976) Homepage Journal

      Looking at, that is indeed the case, but its such a minor edge case I suspect it was completely overlooked as the other site hides karma values (I incidentally found that this code is in the public release of slashcode. Incidentally, I found this code in our tree, and will post the cheatsheet of what karma values on the other site mean in raw numerical terms).

      Still always moving