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posted by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @07:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the now-with-longer-half-lifes dept.
*cough*

Ok, I meant to have an open forum about moderation *way* before this point. I did read the various feedback and comments left on my journal and the last moderation, and have made some changes to the moderation system.

First, mod points now expire after eight hours. I'm willing to extend this to 12 or 16 hours after I'm sure comments will still reach +5 fairly regularly. With luck, we'll get to the point we can extend mod-points to last a full 24 hours which I suspect will end most of the complaining on them vanishing too soon.

Second, I'd like to open the floor to making a more fundamental change to the moderation system. Specifically, allowing people to post AND moderate in the same discussion. We've seen plenty of posts get up to +5, which means 3-4 people gave up their right to post to keep our comments high quality. This was brought up during our last plea for stories, and I wanted to solicit more feedback before unleashing this upon the site.

I've floated the idea on IRC, and it seems there's a fair bit of support for removing the post/moderate split, though we'd need to make some changes to prevent rampant abuse. Here's what was suggested to keep things sane:
  • Mod points won't roll back after a post
  • Moderators can post in the same discussion (either before or after moderating), but can not moderate replies to their posts.

I've heard various ideas such as limiting it only after mods have expended their points (this will require implementing a cooldown to prevent a user from getting points again too soon). I want to hear your feedback, and I'll roll together something for the next major update of the site. Leave your comments

 
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by clone141166 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @12:35PM

    by clone141166 (59) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @12:35PM (#24077)

    My advice would be to go slow and keep repeating very frequently that all changes are temporary on the path to true moderation enlightenment.

    No matter what you change you will end up disappointing or upsetting some group of people. And I also guarantee that no matter what you change, some other group of people will find a way to exploit it. That said, slow, gradual improvements can be a good thing if done with care.

    Dumping too much change on users all at once can cause confusion, anger and ultimately revolt (@see /. beta).

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  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:17PM

    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Tuesday April 01 2014, @02:17PM (#24172) Homepage Journal

    This was the plan from the getgo. It got slightly delayed due to drama, but it peeked ontop of my TODO list again, and decided today was a great day for site announcements.

    --
    Still always moving
    • (Score: 1) by clone141166 on Tuesday April 01 2014, @09:59PM

      by clone141166 (59) on Tuesday April 01 2014, @09:59PM (#24488)

      Thanks, you have done a great job so far btw! My intention wasn't to imply otherwise :) Time to get me some more BaconNews.