Not that I care all that much, I just think they're cool to read about and see pictures of. That and I didn't fall in love with the other options, I can think of thinks I'd much rather see. More on rockets and more on manufacturing technologies and material sciences.
I was also JUST, as in ten seconds before, thinking, hey, its time for a new poll already, and I then once I checked my messages and returned to the main page, there was one. Awesome timing.
I'm quite sure that it was a story about EVE on that green site which made me originally try the game. That was in 2010 and I'm still playing today.
I could write some articles on manufacturing stuff, but I'm usually too busy manufacturing stuff.
The new CowboyNeal option
we need more nerd shit.
cnet etc isn't really nerdy... wtf would we care who farted in cupertino?
As much as I hate agreeing with an AC... although come on, SN is way nerdier than /.'s "news for iFans, stuff that blings". What does Apple and Nerds have in common? Aside from Woz, nothing. Nerds don't buy cool tech, we design, build, program, repair, and repurpose it.
Nerds don't buy cool tech, we design, build, program, repair, and repurpose it.
That is the most awesome thing I have read all day.
Seconded, I don't think I've read a better description
A huge number of nerds own iDevices, and have since long before it was trendy to do so. Other nerds jumped on the iDevices bandwagon during the gold-rush era of the app-store. The original appeal of Apple devices was that it was different from what you used at work: "think different" was a successful ad campaign for a reason. Now that the hardware is popular we are expected to give it up as not different enough? What are we, hipsters?
I develop for iDevices and used a MacBook for years until it met an unfortunate and untimely end. The fact that I feel the need to post anonymously is disheartening. I would love to see stories about the interesting things that are happening in the Apple sphere of technology without the warfare regarding personal preference shifting the discussion.
I don't think it's just "Now that the hardware is popular." The Apple ][ machine was intended for very different usage than the latest Air is. If
Sure, I'd like to know if Apple does something interesting, such as a significant reworking of Darwin or switching architectures again, etc. But I'm not so interested in the "Apple has released their 20XX line of laptops" or "Rumor says Apple will add three new colors to their phone lineup". I don't care about those stories when HP or Samsung are the companies in question, and I don't care about them when Apple is the company in question. And unfortunately, most "Apple news" is of that uninteresting sort.
I have an iPhone and an iPad. I'm, like, such a nerd!
I have a Newton, as well as hardware only powerful enough that it runs CP/M-80.
But it's my soldering iron, and the fact that I own more than three wire strippers that makes me self-identify as a nerd. Also that I know what TTL stands for.
i like that. geeks here need to rank according to the types of wire strippers they have.
30 gauge strippers, you're a digital geek, and you only care about having enough voltage for a logic 1.12 gauge strippers, you're a power person, and you worry about power supply current handling.coax stripper, you're a ham radio geek, and you know what RF is.
if you don't have wire strippers, well then you're just a code geek, which i wouldn't trust with a hot iron on any day of the week.
don't know what a wire stripper is...... get off this site.
Of course I know what a wire stripper is!We had many of them in the 00s. They beat top-less strippers for us old fogs.Sadly, our company can't afford them anymore.Now, get off my lawn.
What if you have all 3 of those, plus a thermal tweezer stripper for working with Teflon or Kapton insulated wire?
I have a Swiss Army Knife, I can strip anything !
10-18 GA for electrical work.16-22 GA for electronics.18-24 GA specialty blades for Teflon/etc.26, 28, and 30 GA for wire wrap (and the Gardner-Denver wire wrap gun, of course.)Several cheap strippers in various tool bags and toolboxes, just so I have one handy.
And I write code, too. So what does that make me? No, wait, don't answer that.
> Nerds don't buy cool tech, we design, build,> program, repair, and repurpose it.
Also, we use it. There's a time for Erector sets and Altairs, and there's a time for having a high-defenition video camera that shoots at 120fps and also shoots 8MP stills at 10fps and oh yeah it's also a GPS with satellite imagery and live traffic and a million other things and it weighs a couple OUNCES. Doesn't matter if it's Apple or Android or whoever. I mean come on, if this [consumerist.com] isn't nerd heaven, I don't know what is.
I liked the idea of smartphones back when they were expensive and sucked*; then Apple made a great one and I wanted it. As it happens, a few million other people did too. Being popular does not automatically make it bad.
* and I wanted one even before they existed. When I got my first Palm, I thought "this thing is awesome!" Then, the first time I read a number off my Palm and punched it into my phone, I though "It'll be great when I don't have to read a number off of one device and punch it into another." I very distinctly remember having that thought.
Yes, nerds do indeed use tech, and we often foresee tech before it gets here. But using tech isn't enough for one to be a nerd, you have to understand it intimately. A nerd understands how that cool phone works, a consumer doesn't.
I disagree that Apple and nerds have nothing in common.
At my work, a large percentage of developers have a MacBook Pro or MacBook air, simply because they feel that it's the best hardware for their needs (they'll usually have another OS installed on it - in fact the head of our Microsoft partnership group has a MacBook with Win8).
Apple's OS upgrades often come with shiny new tech that contributes back to the Open Source community as well:http://www.apple.com/opensource/ [apple.com]
I agree that we don't need a bunch of articles about that time His Steveness dropped a wrapper on the sidewalk in 1985, but Apple stories can be a very interesting sign of where technology is headed.
I want the story on how NCommander and LaminatorX beamed into Barabbas' personal quarters for a little Soylent megatryst. If they want to maintain a slashstyle site they better get ready for some old-school AC trolling. Alas too busy to write it now.
Really? That's who you are shipping? I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your journal.
It looks like the poll was chosen from a list of stories that are in the Current Pending Submissions [soylentnews.org] queue. I actually like that idea (even if it's temporary until we get more commenters than stories).
We could upvote or downvote the pending submissions until one reaches a magic number, and then that story would pass submission and go to the front page.
Slashdot's system [slashdot.org] was to vote up or vote down articles in the pending submissions queue. Colors indicated the popularity of the article, where "red" was soon to be released. Pipedot's system [pipedot.org] is similar but with a number instead of a color.
NSA getting hit with asteroids?NSA getting hit with Bruce Willis?Give NSA mission to spy on itself, wait for implosion?
So many inspirons in the Universe, so little time.
Bruce Willis Hit By Asteroid; NSA Explodes
we are ahead right now, by 50%! Or 100%. We're ahead.
Voted for Buddha, but apparently MtGox is shutting down...
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/mt-gox-onc e-the-worlds-largest-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down/ [arstechnica.com] ... for a month
Well, it would be really striking news if anyone were the reincarnation of Buddha, since the whole point of Buddhism is that Buddha didn't reincarnate because he had achieved enlightenment.
Yes, this is correct. The thus-gone-one is indubitably thus-gone. But after a Kalpa, he will return in the from of the Future Buddha. Are we too early for this?
Today congress passed a law stating that web site owners are not allowed to force new web site designs on users after they have been informed by the users that they don't like it. This unprecedented case of user protection is expected to be followed by similar laws, such as that any site whose functionality can be provided without the use of client-side scripting must be written in a way that it works with disabled or nonexisting scripting support in the browser.
Hugh Pickens DOT Com
I think he's already here, posting as Papas Fritas.
It seems like the author had no idea what to suggest.
None of the above.
I'd like to see a good mix of stories (maybe occasional editorial) about computer tech in general, free software community, maths ans science, security and privacy, etc. Not so much about new x version of y software or z device from a specific vendor.
Oops, I thought this was some sort of joke, not a serious attempt to see what kind of stories to publish! Did I get the wrong end of the stick?! I thought polls actually designed to extract user opinion (admittedly more often about shit we want to sell you rather than what we want to read) was something we were going to leave behind at $OLD_SITE...
Just my tuppence ha'penny....
I would like to see stories with more depth. Things that people have thought about, not just stuff that has happened recently.
The other site degenerated into whichever shill could pump out the most press releases with nothing new to say. Lets look deeper into things.
That means looking at more editorial type content, and opinion pieces, not just press release from company x about how great new gadget / acquisition / ipo is.
this sort of thing? [ctheory.net]
its an exploration of the Einsteins Nightmare meme via the work of Steigler.
Perhaps. I really hate that post-modernist crap, but I guess they are their own special type of nerd. I'm afraid I'm willfully ignorant about that sort of thing to judge it's quality. But if it's good, perhaps I'd learn something.
That's the thing about this sort of site, the subject matter experts can rally, interpret, and translate for the non-experts. That way we can get an expert opinion on the subject, and start to see the merits in TFA. Eventually we can get involved if we see something that interests us, and get some feedback.
I agree, one of the things that kept me coming back to Slashdot was that when I first came, there were some articles that I found fascinating which I could participate in, and some that went over my head more or less entirely. Over time, thanks to the informed commentary of Slashdotters(plus more than a little outside reading) I very rarely come across anything that is over my head. In other words it was an education in itself. Now if I came to Slashdot now for the first time I'm not sure the same thing would happen. I would like Soylent to be like that, informative and interesting for the average geek, but not too intimidating or incomprehesible for the newcomer, Natalie Portman and those hot grits of yours I'm talking about you.
I could do without any news whatever about acquisitions and IPOs here. I'm not an MBA or a greedster or a banker, I'm a NERD. I don't give a damn who owns what company. All I care about when it comes to companies is what cool new tech do you have, and how does it work?
If you hold an MBA, you're probably not a nerd.
Well, if a company providing a product you like goes IPO or is sold, you should be concerned. Because it often means that now the MBAs will take over, and your beloved product may turn into a big steaming pile of beta.
True. On the other hand, I'm probably likely to be interested in just about anything Elon Musk or one of his companies is doing. You wanna talk about a guy that "gets it" on a nerd level...
I've submitted a few stories here, and it's a bit of a challenge to do. It helps to have some basic knowledge of the subject area you may post about, then find new articles about the specific topic, select the best bits and links, and submit something that isn't terribly biased.
Fire away on the Submit Story link [soylentnews.org] and keep this site growing.
I really want to see a good mix of science, technology and politics - and by politics, I mean stuff that politicians are doing that affects me. Whether it is online rights, privacy - or simply outright stupidity.
I want to see loads of articles, sure, I will only scan the headings for most of them - but I dare say that no two readers are alike - we will all skim past the majority - and hone in on the ones that we individually like. What is interesting for me might not be of interest to the next guy. Don't be afraid to post more. I often reload while at work to see what has been updated and it is a dissapointment not to have new articles come up. Perhaps you could do with an editor around the +10GMT timezone?
I would much rather see more articles and not be completely interested in each of them - than by not finding enough articles that I am interested in.
So far you have published all of my submissions apart from the one just submitted and pending - even the one that was rejected was posted from the same submission added after mine. If you are interested in it, I could post a few articles during the day, it seems that most of you seem to be asleep around my schedule.
I'm with you. Just keep a good mixture of nerdly stuff, and all will be well.
Doctor: "Do you hear voices?"
Me: "Only when my bluetooth is charged."
I'd seriously like to see some better polls. The humour stuff is all ok, and a little is always good. But with this site just starting I'd love to see some polls that will actually see this site progress better and in a pleasantly democratic way.
A poll on the colour of the site. I've said it before, but this red isn't for me, and soylent needs to be green surely?
A poll on a logo, or other site appearance. Many folk, including myself, admire the pipedot look, but want to hang out here.
I think the name is done now, but that might have been good.
A poll on which technologies are most important for us to improve here and what priority. with options like Better moderation, improved ui, utf-8, filtering etc etc
Lets get making decisions not jokes! Some of the polls I'm suggesting might only need to run for just a couple of days to get decent results because people will be keen to be part of forgeing the future here. Maybe even 2 polls like this at once too. I know there is the irc and other places but surely polls is one of the best ways to do this...
I asked one of the insiders about the logo; it would be perfect if it were green. They're afraid Dice will sue them for trademark violation. As to the color of the site, they may be right, but I don't think so about the logo. There's no reason the package of Soylent can't be green, especially if it's inside a big orange circle.
I wouldn't mind if, eventually, registered users could pick their own color in place of the red, green, etc., not including the logo. Might be a two birds, one stone kind of solution.
I think that's an excellent idea! It also wouldn't be hard to pull off.
That's very informative, thank you.
i believe there was soylent red and soylent yellow before green. though at the market it appears there was also soylent orange.
Yes, but those other colors weren't people. If you remember from the movie, Soylent Green was sought after because of its taste.
but, are we really sure.....
ianal, but I don't think colours are copyrighted yet! Anda soylent green wouldn't be the same green as our former hosts, there are so many greens to choose from. If the exact same green were used, well perhaps. But if the only thing Dice felt able to sue over was the colour I don't think it would make a very persuasive court case...
Do we live in the shadow of slashdot, or are we truly free?
That's what I tried to tell Barabbas. I can't see how a lime green or olive drab package of Soylent could be sued over. Caerainly not copyright, like you said, you can't copyright a color and the logo is a brand new work.
Yeah, I'm really not here to watch people do a goofy jig because they stole a few of Dice's users. And those polls (including this one) amount to a goofy jig.
My Slashdot replacement is making me miss Slashdot.
Click-to-collapse comment threadsClick-to-collapse front page storiesNo stories by timothyNo press releases disguised as newsHIGHER SIGNAL:NOISE RATIO
Also, less-sarcastic options, in case that's not clear.
When I see sarcasm, such as in this poll's answers, I don't know whether the option is meant as a yes this, or a ha ha f___ that.
I'm actually seriously on a bit of a rant here.
"Why Patent Reform Will Never Happen"Well, I'd NEVER want to see a story about that topic, because I want patent reform to happen. So I would not choose this option... despite being very interested in stories about patent reform. Sarcasm = fail.
"Global Warming Something Something ... Hurricanes!"So, with this on the front page, am I to assume SoylentNews is run by global warming deniers? I ask this because this wording reminds me of "blah blah terrorists 9/11" i.e. the way you make fun of a pass-anything/believe-anything congress. Sarcasm = fail.
"Why Google Glasses are so Awesome, and Why I Got Punched in the Face"Ahh, so SoylentNews also believes Glassholes are a thing (as opposed to believing that violent, entitled, cro-magnon American Luddites who punch people for owning a piece of tech, are a thing) Seriously, I am about one more of these, away from going back to Slashdot and declaring SoylentNews to be a bunch of trolling anti-intellectuals.
You are what you present. With these polls, SoylentNews is presenting itself as having a conservative plebe agenda. Wtf.
Sorry to be a pedant, but...I think that the Buddha having gained enlightenment, would then not be reincarnated
Will this affect my karma ?
.. of the Orwellian police state.
Here are the stories I think this site is lacking:
- Revolutionary breakthrough in solar energy / battery tech will, um, revolutionise... everything. Or something. Again.
- Tesla Cars did something new. Numerous posters explain how this 'electricity' thing will never catch on.
- Cancer cured in the lab! Scientists have discovered that simply dropping a petri dish full of cancer cells into a vat of boiling oil kills 100% of the cancer! Human trials are still 5-10 years away. Mice nervous.
- Flying cars only 5 years away! It's time for that guy with the pretty-cool-but-totally-impractical-for-about-a-hu ndred-different-reasons prototype of a flying car to do the news cycle and drum up some more funding.
- As above, but MARS! Yeah, Mars One need some more suckers to invest in their brochure-printing business.
- Bill Gates: Billionaire philanthropist or complete dick? You decide.
- Everything is about Obama: Something interesting and techy happened in, say, Nepal. Within ten posts, it devolves into a series of essays about why Obamacare is flawed, countered by detailed explanations of everything wrong with the republican party, followed by a comprehensive interpretations of the US law that show that this whole Nepalese thing is unconstitutional anyway, and will probably be struck down by the Supreme Court.
- Old Memes Are Better Than New Memes: Discuss. What the fuck is a "hot grit" anyway?
What the fuck is a "hot grit" anyway?
'Hot grits' (always plural) refer to a type of hot cereal in the southern USA. Grits are made from corn, but is similar in appearance and texture to 'Cream of Wheat', or 'Malt-O-Meal'.
Or:(if not a Yank, or Yankee)
Gruel or mush, made from corn, typically served hot, with breakfast...sadly, without Natalie Portman.
Porridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porridge [wikipedia.org] is a useful word (you'll find your grits beneath "maize"), although not very specific and sometimes confused with rice puddings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_pudding [wikipedia.org] which are common in the UK and Nordic countries (where they can be both breakfast and dinner).
That second to last one about Obama is the funniest thing I've read in quite a while... Thanks!
good old times.... *snif*
I'd vote for more science articles (I like physics and maths) as well as more articles on open source.
On the tech front there is a lot of news from the big companies but I'm also interested in knowing what the small ones are doing.
I voted "Other." We need to get back to the old days when life was simple. AmazingSoftware reaches version X.Y.Z Alpha 3! Adds cool new features and fixes bugs! Then folks can bitch and moan about how that belongs over at FreshMeat (or Freecode as it's apparently known now), not on SoylentNews!
This was always a topic that produced large numbers of comments on the old site.
Clickbait is the last thing we need. Dice needs clickbait for advertising, advertising isn't what soulent's about. Soylent is PEOPLE!
Please, no clickbait stories, no creationist stories.
(Offtopic) And besides, creationism is directly opposed to scientific principles - summarised in two lines:
Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions.
Luke 4:12 [biblehub.com] has from the mouth of JC himself: "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
Not really, given the context. But come to think of it, offtopic is exactly on topic. Creationism is offtopic in any conversation about science, math, or tech.
...The Year of Linux on the Desktop. Duh!
Kidding aside, there was a conversation about having an actual recurring column that appeared here. I would love something like that! I also think that a challenge for us Soylentils with regular updates (fundraising? computer cycles donated to SETI? Solar power generated by users? Users converted from crapware to FOSS?) would give a good reason to keep coming back.
Finally, we clearly need an "Ask Soylent" feature. If nobody needs REAL help, maybe we could do something fun like: http://what-if.xkcd.com/ [xkcd.com]
As long as the stories are relevant for this site and we get the "news" while it's still news, I don't really care what the stories are about.
Right now, there are 29 stories in the "firehose". The oldest one have been there for more than a week. Is this really what we want?
Agreed, and I'd be happy to help as an editor.
For news under options 1-6, I'd visit ./more Torvalds then
I look forward to the day when a headline reads "Tesla begins accepting bitcoins".
We come here for the comments. So, let's speak to the strengths of our participants.
EVE battles were cool the first time or so. Novelty's worn off for me. Good to toss in there for variety on occasion.
Mostly, though, I want to see people exploring new stuff. What are people doing with Raspberry Pi units? What do we do about privacy when everybody's got Google Glass? What tech has NASA made available to the average home? Why is software security so difficult? How do you keep your concept of 'self' in the age of Facebook tags and Twitter auto-generated messages? Naturally this is just off the top of my head; what I find most valuable is the questions like these that I never would have thought of on my own, and the equally interesting answers. Any one person may not be so great on the internet, but somehow this and our predecessor community made a giant mound of shoulders for me to stand on, intellectually :)
i think you are dead right.
i don't think we're after full scientific papers and content you need a PHD for, but i do think that a lot of people are here because slashdot got more and more joe Q public type stuff. A lot of the things I'm into my friends have no clue, and it's nice (read: fucking fantastic!) to have a place to go where smart people are talking about interesting subjects.
i would vote E, all of the above on the survey.
i'm after anything interesting in the technology/science vein. I'm into software, electronics, machines, etc. but I'm also fascinated to read up on biology, chemistry, math, physics - all the rest.
i think the problem is that websites end up tempted into thinking that getting the most visitors is the holy grail. for making money, that is true, but it ends up steering the content towards a generic and dumbed down (and often snarky) mediocrity. if you're running a site that has a relatively small and specific audience that won't tolerate clickbait, you probably ain't gonna get billionaire rich. if that's ok with the people running things it can work.
finally, I think that pieces about highly technical subjects written by people that don't really understand the subject are a huge problem. that, and misleading/overblown/snsationalist headlines. speak softly and carry a big stick.
Hear me out. I know this place wants to be seen as different from Slashdot, and the focus on maintaining a sane display and content system is awesome. But, while one of the reasons that I like Slashdot is the discussion, the other reason is that I like it is that it is a good place to go to get Geek-related news. Yes, in a dozen stories there might only be three good ones, but those three good ones make a daily Slashdot visit worthwhile for me. If I didn't have to go there, it'd be wicked. Obviously, some stories (like Mtgox going down) are going to be picked up everywhere, but some more obscure ones might not be, and I do like going to Slashdot for that occasional geek discussion that comes out of nowhere.
ps: GREAT WORK! The site looks awesome.
Fuck Beiber...Fuck Beta!!!
Google Summer of Code is going to start soon and I'd love to see some stories about it. I even posted one related to the list of organizations (did you know that ReactOS was for some reason not accepted?), but for some reason it was rejected :/
Torvalds a reincarnation of Buddha is not.Preincarnation of Torvalds, Buddha is.
I was a bit wary about this site, but this kind of "joke poll" made it already to feel like home.
I went to the comments and expected people complaining about using poll to make a joke, and I was not disappointed.
Another "for training only" story! ... ;')
No beer and no TV make Global Warming something something...
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Stories were slow to get posted on "that other site".
Now it seems it's even slower here on the soyl.
A story every 2 hours? Are submissions that few?