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posted by NCommander on Friday April 25 2014, @05:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the live-free-or-die dept.
So, first off, I want to apologize for the extended period of time it took to perform due diligence and research various locales in which this organization should incorporate. For some background on the rest of the plan you can read my previous post on incorporation as a step towards setting up a not-for-profit organization. My 10k-word notes are up on the wiki, but I have finally nailed it down to New Hampshire based on very favourable local state laws, as well as favourable court cases in the First Circuit of Appeals. This has been a long research and discovery process, but now I have a chance to start working out the bylaws and site governance matters on a larger scale. This represents our first major step towards self-sufficiency. Check past the break for more information.
First off, I'm happy to finally start moving forward on this. This write-up has been very tiring, though I continue in trying to provide justification for the actions I take on behalf of the site. I'll be blunt, this nearly broke my will to go on, but I can at least say there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm working with Matt Angel to locate a legal firm to help us through incorporation, and we're working to get emails drafted to the EFF and such. Unless our lawyers tell us good reasons not to incorporate in NH, we should all expect to legally exist in the Granite State sometime in the near future.

Right now, I'm getting ready to relocate to New Hampshire to oversee the incorporation, and hope to be there sometime in the next week (currently debating where I'm going to live, I liked Portsmouth when I was there previously). Our next steps is to get things vetted and see if there's anything in particular that may be problematic that I missed in my research, though given New Hampshire's reputation as a politically active state, I do not expect any issues in that regard.

To celebrate this milestone, I've temporarily changed the site logo and slogan to reflect our status. The document on the wiki outlining the fruits of my US incorporation research is open to criticism, feedback, and general review, so if you feel I missed something, pipe up now. Until then, remember, live free or die!

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What We Are Doing: On Incorporation And Other News ... 96 comments
It's been a hectic couple of weeks since SoylentNews went public, and our young community has already seen it fair share of difficulties, drama, and growing pains. Due to an absolutely hectic travel schedule combined with good helping of emergencies, and other calamities, I've been dealing with both trying to keep us operational, and working towards defining who we are and what we will be. With my travel on hold until May, and with most of the pressing issues resolving, I feel that we've finally reached a moment where we can stop reacting, and starting planning. With that said, I'd like to take a moment to sit down, talk about recent events, and give you what I see our future as.

Here is what I'm going into on this post:
- My Vision for SoylentNews
- Incorporating: How, and Where
- The Community Voting System and Voting For Our New Name
- Disclosure on Recent Security Issues

NCommander adds: Well, that was bad timing. Our submission drought ended about the time this went live so its already off the main page. I feel that its important that most people read this so they can at least see the call for volunteers so I'm bumping it back to the top of the main page. At some point we need a featured article feature so things like important site news can stay "stuck" to the top.
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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 25 2014, @05:37PM

    I for one welcome our new first in the nation overlords.
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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Barrabas on Friday April 25 2014, @05:38PM

    by Barrabas (22) on Friday April 25 2014, @05:38PM (#36213) Journal

    Let me know when you've settled in and I'll treat you to a few beers [strangebrewtavern.net].

  • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Friday April 25 2014, @05:39PM

    by bradley13 (3053) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 25 2014, @05:39PM (#36214) Homepage Journal

    Good choice - New Hampshire is a good place. I always hoped that the Free State project would make it even better, but that seems to have fizzled...

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by NCommander on Friday April 25 2014, @05:50PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Friday April 25 2014, @05:50PM (#36222) Homepage Journal

      I heard about FSP. Since I'm heading to FSP, I'm going to look at signing it.

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    • (Score: 1) by Cornwallis on Friday April 25 2014, @06:22PM

      by Cornwallis (359) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:22PM (#36236)

      Why do you say it fizzled? I believe the FSP is still growing.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Sir Garlon on Friday April 25 2014, @06:22PM

      by Sir Garlon (1264) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:22PM (#36237)

      What makes you say the Free State Project [freestateproject.org] has fizzled?

      Just to be clear, since people read all kinds of things into short comments: I am not a libertarian, but I support your right to be a libertarian, and I wish the FSP all the best.

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    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday April 25 2014, @06:26PM

      by ikanreed (3164) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:26PM (#36242) Journal

      Well, apparently it did ruin some townships, so there's that.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Thexalon on Friday April 25 2014, @08:10PM

      by Thexalon (636) on Friday April 25 2014, @08:10PM (#36309)

      It didn't fizzle at all, but it didn't get the reaction at all that it expected. (I was born and raised in NH, and know some of the established political players personally, so I have some sense of the story.)

      Basically, what happened was that the libertarians moved into NH, settled in the lovely towns that are all over the state, ran some candidates for the state House, won (not too hard - because there are 400 House seats for 1 million residence, that works out to about 1200 votes per winning candidate), and their leaders went to Concord ready to do battle for libertarian ideals.

      If their image of politics was shaped by what was going on in Washington DC, they were in for a surprise, because the reaction of the other legislators (majority Democrat at the time) was along the lines of "Hi, nice to meet you! We're looking forward to what ideas you might have about how to make the state better. If you need any assistance working with the various offices in the state, please let us know."

      What some of the Free Staters hadn't realized before that moment is that in New Hampshire the political culture focuses more on effective and good government than on party affiliation. As an example or this in action, the Secretary of State Bill Gardner (a Democrat) was appointed in 1976 by the then-Republican leaning legislature and Republican governor, and has been consistently re-appointed by both Democrats and Republicans ever since because everyone recognizes that he's both very good at doing the work and fair to everyone. It probably also makes a big difference that there are about 10 full-time politicians in the entire state (governor, 2 senators, 2 federal congresspeople, and a few city mayors), and holding any other office is essentially a volunteer role.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 25 2014, @08:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 25 2014, @08:57PM (#36342)

        Well, I assumed it fizzled in the sense that nowhere near the number of people signed up for it as they expected. NH politics aren't bad, but when I lived in the neighborhood, southern NH was being invaded by Boston workers looking for cheaper digs. Granted, I haven't been there for a long time, but I had the impression that things were going in the wrong (read "progressive") political direction.

        Good news?

    • (Score: 2) by M. Baranczak on Friday April 25 2014, @11:25PM

      by M. Baranczak (1673) on Friday April 25 2014, @11:25PM (#36411)

      Fun facts about the Granite State:

      - The alarm clock was invented there.

      - It's the birthplace of great Americans like astronaut Alan Shepard, porn star Erica Campbell, and pop crooner G.G. Allin.

      - It's not true that there's a sign on I-95 North in Kittery that says "Welcome to Maine, sorry about New Hampshire".

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday April 26 2014, @01:14AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday April 26 2014, @01:14AM (#36446) Homepage

        "...pop crooner G.G. Allin."

        Ah yes, an underrated gem with a throat of gold. Anybody with an interest in serious discourse should learn from his extensive catalog which contains such thought-provoking songwriting with hits such as "Sleeping in my Piss," "Fucking the Dog," "Expose Yourself to Kids," and "I'm Gonna Rape You."

      • (Score: 1) by Immerman on Saturday April 26 2014, @05:45AM

        by Immerman (3985) on Saturday April 26 2014, @05:45AM (#36508)

        >The alarm clock was invented there.

        Well that tears it. I had liked most of what I heard about New Hampshire, but now I have no choice but to destroy them all and salt the ground.

  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday April 25 2014, @05:40PM

    by edIII (791) on Friday April 25 2014, @05:40PM (#36215)

    I love the new logo and catch phrase. Dear god, that is catchy.

    You will be free or you will be food. Choose.

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    Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by NCommander on Friday April 25 2014, @05:42PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Friday April 25 2014, @05:42PM (#36217) Homepage Journal

      The slogan is actually a quote, the full line is "Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.", made as a toast by General John Stark during the revolution war.

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      Still always moving
    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday April 25 2014, @06:09PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:09PM (#36229) Homepage

      I don't think it's funny as much as it's sexy. It gave me (as it should give any lover of liberty) a serious hard-on.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by terryk30 on Friday April 25 2014, @08:11PM

      by terryk30 (1753) on Friday April 25 2014, @08:11PM (#36310)

      Soylent News: Be informed, or be formed... into green biscuits.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by starcraftsicko on Friday April 25 2014, @05:45PM

    by starcraftsicko (2821) on Friday April 25 2014, @05:45PM (#36219) Journal

    Welcome.

    You'll do great here. Portsmouth is nice...

    Live free or DIIIIIEEEE! [youtube.com]

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    This post was created with recycled electrons.
  • (Score: 3) by janrinok on Friday April 25 2014, @05:46PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 25 2014, @05:46PM (#36220) Journal

    Thanks for carrying out this task. I know it is not one that you have enjoyed and that it has taken an inordinate amount of time. But, once complete, I'm sure it will have been worth it.

    Thank you.

  • (Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Friday April 25 2014, @05:52PM

    by cmn32480 (443) <{cmn32480} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Friday April 25 2014, @05:52PM (#36223) Journal

    That light at the end of the tunnel could be a train.

    You are doing a great job with a massively difficult task. How can I contribute to the beer/reloaction fund?

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  • (Score: 1) by danmars on Friday April 25 2014, @06:27PM

    by danmars (3662) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:27PM (#36243)

    Are there a disproportionate number of NH people on this site, or is it commenting selection bias?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Buck Feta on Friday April 25 2014, @06:49PM

      by Buck Feta (958) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:49PM (#36257) Journal

      I thought we all were from New Hampshire. You're not?

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      • (Score: 1) by danmars on Saturday April 26 2014, @05:25AM

        by danmars (3662) on Saturday April 26 2014, @05:25AM (#36505)

        Joke's on you, I live 3 miles from barrabas's suggested tavern.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by randmcnatt on Friday April 25 2014, @06:33PM

    by randmcnatt (671) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:33PM (#36247)
    Pardon me if you already know of these sites/organizations.

    http://form1023.org/ [form1023.org] -- Mostly dealing with the IRS, but has some other good resources, like a template for articles of incorporation.

    Inc. [inc.com] -- 501(c)3 bylaws template generator, plus a whole lot more. I found it very helpful when wrestling with a helping create local merchants' association.
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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by weeds on Friday April 25 2014, @06:49PM

    by weeds (611) on Friday April 25 2014, @06:49PM (#36256) Journal

    Since SN is not incorporated as a non-profit yet, I can't send in a donation. Fine, where do I send your birthday present?

    • (Score: 2) by Subsentient on Friday April 25 2014, @07:34PM

      by Subsentient (1111) Subscriber Badge on Friday April 25 2014, @07:34PM (#36283) Homepage Journal

      To me. Everybody forgets my birthday.

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  • (Score: 2) by skullz on Friday April 25 2014, @07:15PM

    by skullz (2532) on Friday April 25 2014, @07:15PM (#36272)

    "To celebrate this milestone, I've temporarily changed the site logo and slogan to reflect our status."

    Please tell me you are going to get this custom plate to put on the back of some 70's Pinto. I'll donate just for that.

    • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Friday April 25 2014, @07:24PM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Friday April 25 2014, @07:24PM (#36279) Homepage Journal

      You know ... when I was in college, I toyed with the idea of buying a Pinto.

      I need a car to drive the Pan-American Highway. Driving a Pinto across two continents probably would be worth it for the story alone.

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      Still always moving
      • (Score: 2) by skullz on Friday April 25 2014, @07:30PM

        by skullz (2532) on Friday April 25 2014, @07:30PM (#36281)

        "Driving a Pinto across two continents"

        God no, we need you alive longer than that!

  • (Score: 2) by GlennC on Friday April 25 2014, @07:16PM

    by GlennC (3656) on Friday April 25 2014, @07:16PM (#36274)

    But I'm not sure why you feel you need our approval.

    YOU are the one putting this together.

    YOU are the one whose name will be most prominent on the Articles of Incorporation.

    In short, it's YOUR site.

    While I have an account, and make the occasional contribution, administrative minutiae are of no concern to me. It should also be of no concern to anyone who has not made a significant contribution of either time, money, or expertise.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mrcoolbp on Friday April 25 2014, @07:51PM

      by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Friday April 25 2014, @07:51PM (#36294) Homepage

      It's our site (we exist for and by the community) actually, and there was some people that posed the option of incorporating elsewhere in the world (some people dislike the US). NCommander said anyone willing to research other nations as a basis for setting up the NFP were free to. He opted to research which state would be best in the US. As no one stepped up, it looks like we have a conclusion.

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      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 25 2014, @08:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 25 2014, @08:11PM (#36311)

        So when he says "relocate" is he really permanently relocating himself solely to do the incorporation?

        That's pretty... drastic. Especially if this site doesn't make him any money (and I assume it doesn't).

        • (Score: 4, Informative) by NCommander on Friday April 25 2014, @08:24PM

          by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Friday April 25 2014, @08:24PM (#36321) Homepage Journal

          Yup. :-) (not sure how permament it will be, but at least until we have all the necessary certificates of business + rubber stamps, etc.)

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday April 26 2014, @04:40AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday April 26 2014, @04:40AM (#36498) Journal

          Maybe it is just an excuse. You know. To move. To New Hampshire.

          (Wait, could it be that NCommander is in reality Scott Brown? Nah, no way!)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 27 2014, @03:45PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 27 2014, @03:45PM (#36887)

        (some people dislike the US)

        We don't dislike everything about the US, but secret court orders and stuff like this [soylentnews.org] makes some of us really uncomfortable about some of the stuff going on in the US and that's one of the reasons some of us have suggested incorporation in another country.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26 2014, @12:34PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26 2014, @12:34PM (#36585)

      This is exactly the point he's making: it's OUR site!

    • (Score: 1) by cykros on Sunday May 04 2014, @08:26PM

      by cykros (989) on Sunday May 04 2014, @08:26PM (#39569)

      I seem to remember another site feeling like it didn't need the approval of its users. Last I checked, that site's comments had drastically fallen off into being about as useful in the scope the site aimed to pertain to as posts on AOL forums.

      There's a lesson to be learned in there somewhere, and I think NCommander is on the right track.

      SoylentNews is People!

      • (Score: 2) by GlennC on Monday May 05 2014, @01:46PM

        by GlennC (3656) on Monday May 05 2014, @01:46PM (#39773)

        As a counterpoint, I know of another site that was pretty good, and I contributed there for a while.

        Then the owner started on a kick about wanting more input from the users for site decisions.

        Kuro5hin.org is now just an Internet backwater site.

        I'm concerned that SN will suffer the same fate.

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        Sorry folks...the world is bigger and more varied than you want it to be. Deal with it.
        • (Score: 1) by cykros on Monday May 05 2014, @10:23PM

          by cykros (989) on Monday May 05 2014, @10:23PM (#39953)

          Fair point. It would seem that the sweet spot, as it were, is somewhere in between despotism and willy nilly democracy. From what I've seen, we've been thus far not straying too far to one side or the other here...there's a core of folks involved in executive tasks, some that take direction a bit in the form of editing or other general labor, and then the majority of us plebs that need to be whipped and prodded just to go vote on the site name.

          But yes, leaders, don't be afraid to lead. You can be sure we'll be happy to let you know when you're doing it wrong.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26 2014, @12:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 26 2014, @12:22PM (#36577)

    Why New Hampshire? Everyone knows Delaware is the logical place to inc.