ZeeNews, which claims to be India's largest news network with 140 million viewers, has this morning received the ultimate punishment from YouTube. The network's account has been terminated following "multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement" and that could mean there's no hope of a recovery.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by francois.barbier on Wednesday June 25 2014, @12:23AM
That's what you get for using a third-party website.
Don't want this stuff happening? Host your own website and your own videos.
Don't have the money for it? Bye.
(Score: 1) by francois.barbier on Wednesday June 25 2014, @12:30AM
For anybody wondering, this was sarcasm with a bit of truth in it.
I'd rather tell it upfront for what it truly is than get downvoted by people who don't get it.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday June 25 2014, @12:31AM
Start pirating your music videos now, before you can no longer watch them on Youtube!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @01:31PM
OK I'll bite, where's the sarcasm? Your advice seems legit and proper for anyone and everyone posting video, especially a company as big as Zee Media who could easily afford to host its own video.
(Score: 1) by stp on Wednesday June 25 2014, @02:17PM
Sarcasm? Probably in the way the OP glossed over the alleged copyright infringement.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @12:49AM
You're right. YouTube has a complicated history with takedowns. Many small users have been forced to create second or third accounts to keep on delivering content. A fair use defense is hardly ever accepted by Goo/Tube, unless it blows up in the media like in this case. Last time I checked, disputing a takedown is what actually puts a "strike" on your "record". So if you accept the removal of the video rather than claim fair use, your account might last longer. There are more granular options for censorship as well; music companies can blank the entire audio on a video rather than take it down, or restrict playback geographically.
The results? It's extremely easy for corporations, orgs, and individuals to get parodies and criticism taken down. In some cases, false DMCA notices are used.
The solution? Upload your video to both YouTube and the Internet Archive (also consider LiveLeak, Dailymotion, Vimeo, etc). If you have a decent amount of subscribers, let them know that archive.org exists. Good luck getting America's de facto digital library to take down fair use content.
https://archive.org/ [archive.org]
http://www.liveleak.com/ [liveleak.com]
EFF: YouTube's ContentID more strict than DMCA [eff.org]
EFF: A Guide to YouTube Removals [eff.org]
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday June 25 2014, @02:57PM
You want to use the Internet Archive as a front-line content provider. Internet Archive. As a content provider. *twitch*
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @06:22PM
It's very easy to download a video on Internet Archive. No fancy YouTube plugins required. That allows the fanbase to spread the video around if necessary, maybe even directly back to YouTube where it belongs. IA also has a built-in streaming player. Finally, IA is less likely to succumb to a false DMCA attack than YouTube.
(Score: 2) by Kunasou on Wednesday June 25 2014, @08:01AM
Exactly.
I've seen a lot of channels having takedowns recently, maybe Google is cleaning channels they don't want to have with their ContentID tool. Some of them came back though. You can't really trust a free service.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @12:33AM
(Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @01:06AM
It would be interesting if someone brought legal action against google as an accessory to fraud as they are clearly siding with the criminals claiming ownership of content which they have no legal claim to and helping them extort money from the rightful copyright holders by taking down their content.
(Score: 2) by mth on Wednesday June 25 2014, @09:56AM
It could be extortion, it could be an honest mistake, it could be an automated content ID system that is not very accurate. And even if there were bad intentions or serious neglect from the people making the claims, Google could be part of the conspiracy, could be acting in good faith, or could be negligent in not investigating the claims before shutting down the channel.
I haven't seen any evidence that Google is "clearly siding with the criminals", other than a general (not undeserved) distrust of media companies. For legal action, firmer evidence is needed.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday June 25 2014, @03:00PM
That's a large part of the problem right there. Automated systems for taking down content without human intervention (or, apparently, oversight except after the fact) is a stupid idea.
"You have to convince us of your right to exist again"
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @08:45PM
If someone claims copyright over your own content that you yourself have created and google chooses to ignore the fact that the plaintiff has no rights to the content, be it automated or manually, I think that it could be argued that the system google is using invites fraudulent takedown requests, which usually are thinly veiled extortion attempts. And how is ignoring the rightful copyright holders claims and taking down content or shutting down channels not siding with the criminals? How often do you think it happens that people figure it's easier and cheaper just to pay the one complaining than hiring a lawyer to go after the scumbags?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 25 2014, @01:18AM
ZeeNews, I never heard of 'em. They must be terrorists. Kick 'em off our Internet.
(Score: 1) by ScriptCat on Wednesday June 25 2014, @02:50PM
So what is the replacement for youtube?
(Score: 1) by Freeman on Wednesday June 25 2014, @03:39PM
You must have missed the comment that said "Internet Archive". Though, I admit, it isn't as user friendly as Youtube.
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