Intel Considers $11 Billion Fab in Israel
Late last year Intel announced massive plans to increase its global chip production capacities by upgrading, expanding, and equipping four of its fabs. As it turns out, the company is not going to stop there and is considering to build a brand new fab in Israel, which will cost $11 billion.
Moshe Kahlon, Israeli Finance Minister, on Tuesday confirmed that Intel had applied for a grant of about $1 billion from the government for its new investment plan to build a fab that would cost $11 billion. If everything goes as planned, the investment will not only be the biggest of its kind in Israel, but Intel will also build the largest semiconductor fab in the region. Furthermore, the expansion will add 1,000 new employees to Intel's staff of approximately 13,000 in Israel.
[...] Intel and Ministry of Finance reportedly started talks about the new fab several weeks ago, so the production facility is a few years away.
Previously: Intel to Spend $5 Billion on Fab in Israel, Likely to Produce 10nm Chips
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Intel and two Israeli ministries this week announced that the chip giant plans to invest $5 billion in its Kiryat Gat fab complex – Fab 28 – through 2020. Under the plan, Intel is expected to buy various products from local suppliers and hire additional personnel. In return, Israel will provide the processor maker a tax rebate and a government grant. Furthermore, Intel will receive another grant if it upgrades its manufacturing in Israel further.
Under the terms of the investment plan, Intel will invest $5 billion (NIS 18 billion) in its Kiryat Gat ventures until 2020. The chip giant is expected to buy $838 million (NIS 3 billion) worth of local goods and add 250 people to its workforce, reports The Times of Israel citing the Finance Ministry. If the plan is approved by the Israeli authorities, Intel will get a 5% tax rebate till 2027, as well as a $195.5 million (NIS 700 million) government grant. Additionally, if Intel decides to "significantly upgrade" its fab "technologically", the company will get another $195.5 million grant.
Intel's first "10nm" CPU will be the i3-8121U, a dual-core part which will be featured in the Lenovo Ideapad 330. Due to low yields on the "10nm" process, a few Cannon Lake CPUs will be released in 2018 alongside "14nm" Whiskey Lake. Both microarchitectures are considered to be "8th-generation" (hence the '8' in "i3-8121U").
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(Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Wednesday January 30 2019, @02:38AM (6 children)
Thought the USG was stupid in some of the subsides it gives business. Thought Jews were supposed to be smart and crafty and stuff; perhaps their reputation is a bit inflated?. Putting out a $1B subsidy to create a thousand jobs works out to a million dollars per job. There had better be some hellacious knock on effects from the rest of the spending (i.e. not just importing a bunch of stuff equipment from Applied Materials, etc.) they can tax to make up the difference.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by MostCynical on Wednesday January 30 2019, @02:48AM (3 children)
If they a ensure appropriate (known and controlled) backdoors, the value of the future secrets they collect should be worth alot more than the subsidy - note, too that "subsidy" can include tax write-downs, rather than direct cash.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday January 30 2019, @02:56AM (2 children)
You do know Intel has had one of their major design teams in Israel for a long time, that is where the backdoors generally get inserted. Good thinking though, gotta account for those "non-economic factors" when playing International Geopolitics in the big leagues.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Wednesday January 30 2019, @04:12AM
As well, having the Israeli security forces available to help keep others* out of the facilitywould be a bonus.
Other governments
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 30 2019, @04:14AM
The former kernel team was in Portland and got eliminated in favor of moving all Intel ME design and development to Israel. All of the ARC-era Intel ME flaws would have been designed and developed in Israel as part of the Intel ME userspace. The move to Minix allowed them to eliminate the previous kernel (ThreadX) making the Portland group redundant, and pulling all assets in-house. Given the fact that 90 percent of non-embedded computer systems are running Intel, and at least 1/3 to 1/2 of those are running Skylake+ cpus now, having complete control of Intel ME would give Mossad unparalleled access to computer systems of every nation with the ability to write and inject bespoke payloads to known foreign targets, as well as enable traditional x86 exploits to allow enabling the ME from userspace and injecting custom payloads or activation existing obfuscated payloads to perform actions below the operating system before sending it out in the guise of existing network traffic where it can be intercepted and exploited either without triggering IDS at all, or only on an encrypted payload giving no evidence of how it was enacted.
Likely this is being done on a regular basis and is part of the focus for China's domestic CPU initiative. One common trait both the Chinese and Israeli/Jewish sympathizers have is the ability to tap foreign resources for their great and glorious culture in Israel/China. The difference however is that the Israelis have managed to provide themselves the political capital, through both the Holocaust and multi-generational grooming of assets, to have their political malfeasance swept up, even by the countries whose trust they compromise. If you have any doubts, look into Israeli purchases of military technology, not only from the US/EU, but also China and Russia, including domestically classified technology, which was then exchanged with the other hostile powers for reverse engineering purposes. Does that sound like the kind of foreign power you want with the majority manpower control of one of the lynchpin fabs of the largest market monopoly chipmaker on the planet?
A final point of research to prove or refute the threat posed by Israel would be to look into which processor generations and features were designed at Intel's Haifa campus and which exploitable cpu misfeatures/optimizations were implemented during their time there. If more than half of them were, it would stand to reason that not all of those 'mistakes' were unintended. The hardware design and security research going on in Israel is unparallelled in most of the world and even in the parts that are as competent most programs are underfunded.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 30 2019, @03:46AM (1 child)
The taxes won't just "make up the difference". Israel will get some 23% off whatever Intel makes selling Israeli-made chips: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Israel#Corporate_tax [wikipedia.org]
So, assuming even just 10% of Intel's chips are going to be manufactured in Israel, that $1billion investment is going to payoff well under a decade.
Besides, where do you think Intel gets the machinery and parts? This isn't China, Mexico or India we're talking about here. There's a whole local industry of CNC and electromechanical prototyping around Intel. You even have local plants spinning optical and copper wires. It's the exact opposite of that Apple story the green site just run with. And having Intel around is part of what makes the whole eco-system work and grow.
Regardless, all said and done it's election season so some corruption, fat checks and false promises are in order.
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday January 30 2019, @06:39AM
That Billion will be back in the local economy long before the building is inaugurated.
Fabs cost billions. Even if you don't make the machines, building them a clean room to operate in, and connecting everything they need to run, from roads, through humans, to rare gases, is a local job.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 30 2019, @02:39AM (3 children)
Is that why it is delayed?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 30 2019, @03:13AM (2 children)
Didn't you read the article? This is the future-planned 9.5nm++ fab.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 30 2019, @03:30AM (1 child)
This is the future-planned 9.5nm++ fab.
Pfft. Bunch of cavemen banging rocks together. Damn people should be doing subatomic fab by now, outsourced to an exoplanet... where they speak French and Italian!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by takyon on Wednesday January 30 2019, @03:44AM
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(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday January 30 2019, @06:11AM
When they’re not murdering children they’re kudnapping then ransoming.
I regard my Jewish friends as well as those Israelis who work for peace as wonderful people.
It’s those who commit War Atrocities that I want to see prosecuted before the Human Righrs Tribunal.
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