Morrow witnessed the exact moment when the hacker community turned on Lamo. It happened, in a stark way, at a Hackers On Planet Earth conference in New York. Hacker meetups were usually a great opportunity to party, meet new people and start new projects, but from the outset it was clear that post-Manning, this HOPE meeting would be different.
"The first day at the conference there were a lot of people yelling out 'snitch' and at least one occasion that I recall somebody spitting in his direction," Morrow recalls. "It was a rather divisive time back then. Something like this had never happened to the community. Up until that point, Adrian had been an inspiration, but that all turned. In their minds, or in the culture, the worst thing you could be was a snitch and I think that probably confused a lot of people. There was a bit of a mob mentality, people were just so taken aback that this happened."
[...] After the conference, there was no ambiguity about how the hacker community felt about Lamo.
"People hated him," said another of his friends, Andrew Blake. "He couldn't log on to any sort of interest platform under his actual name without instantly getting some sort of hate directed toward him. Even when Adrian would do something with the absolute best of intentions, as soon as anyone realized that it was Adrian Lamo who did it, they didn't want anything to do with it."
(Score: -1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @12:47PM (19 children)
Im not going to bother with NPR. They never know wtf they are talking about, and do it in the most elitist and smug way. But how did he die?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:32PM (1 child)
I'm not going to bother posting the cause of death here, for someone who doesn't care to RTFA but wants to comment so everyone can see how elitist and smug he is.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:36PM
Im a ve, not a he...
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:34PM (2 children)
A friendly government agent signed a document and one Adrian Lamo died while a john Smith appeared with plastic surgery scars, clean papers and a steady government job.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:21PM (1 child)
Hey, I'd like to have a comfy government job with healthcare benefits?
Where do I sign the fuck up?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @08:45PM
Marshal witness protection.
(Score: 5, Informative) by ledow on Friday September 20 2019, @01:59PM (1 child)
Well, it doesn't really matter... I only bothered to skim the article but basically it's not "mysterious" at all. The guy died, he was full of all kinds of prescription and non-prescription drugs, and the coroner couldn't find a *specific* cause, but that doesn't mean much.
Including one particular combination that has proven fatal elsewhere.
"That didn't surprise Debbie Scroggin. "He would overmedicate because his anxiety was so high," she said. "There were times when he would ... come up to have dinner and he'd fall asleep in his food. Literally face down in his food.""
It's click-bait, but if you read the text-only version by refusing to agree to their cookie policy, you would see that it's not only a "mystery" in so far as people don't know exactly what killed him. That he died while having all that stuff in his body isn't exactly "mysterious" though as he was a long time abuser of all kinds of "legal", over-the-counter and prescription drugs such that his doctor and friends knew about it.
It's like saying Elvis died "mysteriously". All it means is that you don't know the exact thing that killed him, it doesn't mean the coroner was somehow baffled or surprised that the guy had died.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday September 20 2019, @07:17PM
+6, but also add in that we apparently know that the benzos were prescribed and there are other hints in the story that has depressive elements, plus the Kratom factor throwing in a whole dimension of potential interactions. No conspiracy theory needed.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @02:32PM (8 children)
Agreed, suggest that you don't read tfa -- it's too surreal for you to grok.
Hint--there is a photo of Lamo driving a 4-wheeler (ATV) in the middle of Kansas, yes, it's that surreal.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday September 20 2019, @03:02PM (7 children)
There is no "middle of Kansas". Like the cake, the "middle of Kansas" is a lie.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @03:48PM (1 child)
Sorry, I've only driven across Kansas a few times (once on Rt 36--beautiful rolling 2-lane), seemed like there was a middle to that long drive...
Anyway, update my comment to "middle of nowhere in Kansas"(grin).
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday September 20 2019, @04:33PM
On I-70, once you are West of Salina, there is A LOT of nowhere to be in the middle of.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:05PM
The entirety of Kansas is the middle of Kansas.
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @05:49PM (3 children)
It most certainly is not! And it has the advantage of being equally convenient to both coasts!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:10AM (2 children)
Well, Kanas isn't far from the Gulf coast, but the Great Lakes are a bit more distant.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 21 2019, @01:15AM (1 child)
There is only L.A. and Miami.
The Gulf coast is just a hazardous waste site.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:09PM
California or Florida? I'll pass. I prefer to live in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by tangomargarine on Friday September 20 2019, @03:07PM
Fucking long-ass article, near the bottom:
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 4, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Friday September 20 2019, @05:45PM (1 child)
NPR is clearly trying to rouse sympathy for that snitch and rehabilitate him in the public eye.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:09AM
And NPR is, of course, Jews talking about Jews all day every day.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @12:55PM (1 child)
That's about how it works.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @01:28PM
Indeed, whether it is valid or not.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Friday September 20 2019, @02:39PM (23 children)
We usually release RIP stories for someone who has had a significant influence upon our lives - be it scientific, cultural or political. I just don't feel the Lamo deserves our attention in quite the same way. I suppose it depends on whether you belong to the 'death penalty for Assange' team or the 'Manning was a hero' team.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Freeman on Friday September 20 2019, @03:06PM (20 children)
How about the, Assange is kinda iffy, Manning was a metoo, and Snowden was a stand up guy team?
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @03:49PM (1 child)
What do you mean "metoo"? If it was not for Manning, we would not know about the complete disregard for life as shown in the "collateral damage" video.
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @04:33PM
Your complete disregard for life still continues, see Yemen. Manning self-inflicted victimization had no observable effect on operations.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @04:53PM (12 children)
Fair. I'm still not convinced that those allegations weren't government plants, but I'm not convinced they were either, and "iffy" seems fair.
Why do you say this? Did Chelsea Manning make any rape or sexual harrassment allegations against anyone, or are you just using "metoo" as a stand-in for "special snowflake" and trying to be transphobic without really owning it? If the latter, why are you bringing it up in this context? How is it relevant?
(Score: 3, Informative) by GeminiDomino on Friday September 20 2019, @04:58PM (10 children)
"Metoo" predates the hashtag by a few decades.
Also often expressed in the olden days as "AOL"
Nice job dragging your identity politics into things, though.
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @05:10PM (9 children)
Please explain what "metoo" meant before the hashtag, and how it applies to Manning.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @05:55PM (8 children)
Oh, that's easy. It meant, and still means, to the best of my knowledge, me too... But don't take my word for it, ask your local language professor...
I think somebody was saying Manning is a copycat... But don't take my word for that either
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Troll) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @06:24PM (6 children)
Explaining a pre-hashtag meaning of "me too" is easy, but you didn't explain how it relates to Manning. Care to explain how Manning was a copycat in a manner relevant to this discussion? Until somebody does, I'm gonna keep assuming that Freeman's comment was a transphobic dogwhistle.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @06:44PM (5 children)
I'm gonna keep assuming that Freeman's comment was a transphobic dogwhistle.
Yes, of course you will. Might explain why you don't see the relevance
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @06:48PM (4 children)
Can you explain the relevance? I honestly googled for #MeToo stuff related to Manning before replying to Freeman, I'm open to being wrong here. I just don't think I am, and none of you have presenting a convincing alternate explanation of the comment.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @07:00PM (3 children)
Assange...
Manning says, (look at) *Me* too!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @07:19PM (1 child)
Really, every whistleblower but the first one is a "metoo"? Given that Snowden's leaks hit after Manning's, why isn't Snowden a "metoo" in this context?
(Score: 2, Troll) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @07:24PM
Also, Manning didn't come forward until Lamo doxxed her, so claiming that it was a cry for attention seems absurd.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 21 2019, @11:19AM
(Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday September 21 2019, @05:13AM
Given that Snowden called himself "Citizen Four" in reference to another three whistleblowers, he's the most "me too" of the lot. And why is that a bad thing? Regarding Assanges "iffy"ness... people unpopular to the establishment have had sex weaponised against them since forever, and a documentary by a well regarded Australian investigative team who visited Sweden at the time largely absolves him. If you're interested it's called "Sex, Lies and Julian Assange".
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 23 2019, @02:13PM
As in, they saw Snowden do it and wanted to do something too, so they did something, because they wanted the attention. Then again, maybe I read that whole situation wrong.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2, Informative) by mobydisk on Friday September 20 2019, @05:35PM (4 children)
I'm glad someone was brave enough to post that. We need to call-out the phony pseudo-civil-rights philosophy where leaking any government document == automatic hero.
There's a lot of gray area around what these people did. Snowden blew the whistle on US government domestic surveillance and exposed the scam that is the US FISA court system. The US government was violating its own laws and they ignored him when he reported his concerns via appropriate channels. That makes him a whistleblower. But he also leaked information about legitimate counterintelligence operations that were legal according to US law. If he had limited his leaks to the illegal activities then he would be a hero.
Manning released random documents with no real thought into what he/she was releasing. The diplomatic cables, for example, embarrassed many nations diplomats and weakened everyone's ability to trust. That did no one any good.
Wasn't Assange was just a courier between the leakers and the press. Why is he so important?
(Score: 3, Touché) by sjames on Friday September 20 2019, @07:05PM
Arguably, the untrustworthy actions outlined in the cables weakened the illusory ability to trust, exposing the cables just let the rest of us know of the villainy so we could act accordingly.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 21 2019, @12:34PM (1 child)
What call out? What courage? I find it interesting how you're spinning major revelations of US wrong-doing as "leaking any government document".
So what? There's a lot of gray area around the wrong-doing that the US did too.
How?
Such interesting weaseling. I suppose it would be easy for you to reveal information about illegal aspects of counterintelligence operations without revealing information about the legal aspects, much less the legal aspects that should be legal? No gray areas for you, right?
It's interesting how these apologia go. Sure, X did a great thing, but I'm going to obsess over this particular rule X broke in the process.
Except, of course, for the people who trusted too much. It did them some good. It also provided insight into various countries's outlooks and interests.
Because he was a courier between the leakers and the press. It answers itself.
(Score: 2) by mobydisk on Monday October 07 2019, @08:36PM
My understanding is that manning released a lot of unrelated information, most of which didn't do the public any good. I think he/she was dumping random files to a CD and walking them out. It's not like he/she had a specific agenda or a specific complaint to blow the whistle against. Among the many releases was the "collateral damage" video that might have been a significant release, and if someone wants to debate that Manning is a whistle blower because of that video release, I could see that as a valid point. But overall, most of it was garbage.
I call it courage because if we call every person who released a secret government document a "whistleblower" then it degrades the meaning of a whistle blower. A whistle blower is someone who knows of an illegal activity that is being hidden, and they bravely put themselves at risk of retaliation by going over their boss's head to make sure it is known. Let us not shout "whistle blower" every time someone grabs a random directory of secret files and emails it to the press.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday September 23 2019, @02:17PM
Assange was/is so important, because he made poor choices and was/is a target due to facilitating publication of the leaks.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 4, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Friday September 20 2019, @04:36PM (1 child)
That word "mysterious" in the headline. That's raw meat for the conspiracy theorists. I think it unwise to provoke them with that kind of language. What is NPR trying to do? As a publicly funded news organization, they shouldn't have to resort to sensationalism.
As for Lamo, being ostracized can be a huge blow to one's health. If there is anything "mysterious", it's that the negative health effects of ostracism are still underappreciated. Medical science has a history of being dismissive of emotions. Their appreciation has grown, slowly. and now they do accept that a person really can die of a broken heart. For example, Debbie Reynolds.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday September 21 2019, @01:10AM
What is "Mysterious" about this is that this event was not mentioned in even independent media, and it's pretty damn juicy considering the connection of Lamo to Manning.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Friday September 20 2019, @03:08PM (20 children)
Klan meetings have been known to be more than 50% infiltrated/attended by various levels of law enforcement for decades now.
I would assume that established "hacker communities" are much the same. Statements by the deceased's "friends" and "comrades in hackery" are just as likely to have come from the same agency handlers who directed other "friends" to assist in the selection of the evening's medications.
/rant
Or, everything is just how it has been reported in the media and we have the true story. Choose your reality.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday September 20 2019, @03:36PM (1 child)
That's a seriously large tinfoil hat, like Sombrero size tinfoil hat.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Touché) by JoeMerchant on Friday September 20 2019, @05:15PM
Where's the "sunny optimist" mod? I hope you are right, doubt, but hope.
Also, what kind of reporting is:
oxymorons are us?
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by mhajicek on Friday September 20 2019, @03:38PM (1 child)
There's a difference between infiltrating and being a member.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday September 20 2019, @05:00PM
Oh, yeah, definitely.... where I used to live, the biggest local biker gang was mostly cops - still is today, mostly because they liked being bikers and cracking skulls every so often, but... when you saw them at a big public event like a concert or whatever, you could be reasonably assured that they wouldn't start any biker gang like BS - they might jump in and finish biker gang BS in progress, or just get drunk and beat up each other, but for the most part it was a good thing when they were around.
As for the Klan, in the 1920s the Mayor and Police Chief were at the head of it, and they declined to investigate when a mouthy catholic priest - talking about how the darkies deserved equal treatment - got himself beat within an inch of his life and castrated... just not in the "public interest" to investigate that particular event.
However, I _think_ that today's Klan meetings in that area, yes - they still happen, are also joined by FBI and other agencies posing as serious members. For the most part their activities are lightweight in recent years, for instance: they painted red hate graffitti on Asians' houses one night. I suspect the agencies let stuff like that ride just gain trust and watch to see if they've got any actual murderers in the group.
Or, you know, the Federal Bureau of Investigation doesn't bother with keeping tabs on domestic terror groups anymore - that might also have become the case starting a few years back - money better spent on other projects like a wall and such.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday September 20 2019, @03:39PM (13 children)
well said. I am more inclined to believe that NPR is being manipulated to tell a convenient story.
I believe everyone like adrian lamo, and myself, are under extreme surveillance regimins. He was in kansas. There is no way someone could have murdered him without the government knowing about it and from this it is apparent they are trying to make it seem like 'scary mean hackers' must have somehow run some seal team 6 operation 50 miles from fort leavenworth and fort manhattan.
The system has no place for people like him so the moment no one is looking, 'mysterious death'.
The id sticker under the clothes is the aspect that made me really go whaaa?
The job of a journalist is to admit sometimes when we don't know what happened, and that is I think what they are resisting at the moment otherwise even NPR has to admit during morning rush hour that there is a not-so-mysterious dying-off of politically unwanted people in the united states.
See ferguson protestors, seth rich, michael hastings, nancy schaefer, the list kind of goes on.
What do you do if you realize that chuck norris movie Invasion USA is actually happening, but you can't tell who is behind it and it isn't the frickin cubans?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JNCF on Friday September 20 2019, @05:04PM (4 children)
What motive did the government have to kill Lamo? I've consistently argued (here and elsewhere) that they probably killed Michael Hastings. I believe that the US government kills certain undesirable citizens, I just don't see a clear motive here.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 20 2019, @06:53PM
What motive did the government have to kill Lamo?
Can it be more obvious [fineartamerica.com]?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Saturday September 21 2019, @08:08AM (2 children)
Classic, he knows too much and pissed off the wrong people.
Israel would do it just because he's an intelligent programmer who might unravel their backdoors ten years from now.
Get it through your head, all intelligence that cannot be co-opted to build the prison intercom system is a threat to the prison intercom system.
I draw it out for you on a whiteboard even:
https://jmichaelhudson.net/4-important-drawings/ [jmichaelhudson.net]
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Saturday September 21 2019, @02:36PM (1 child)
Okay, let's continue this conversation with the following assumptions (which I think you'll agree with): people with intelligence and focus above certain levels who are working towards certain ends that the government disagrees with will probably be targeted by the government. Let's further assume that Lamo met the intelligence and focus requirements.
Why did the government target Lamo now? I get that he has a history of attacking society's infrastructure, but so do some other not-dead hackers. His recentish betrayal of Chelsea Manning, however, would seem to be in line with the government's interests. If I were them, I would see him as more of an asset to have mulling around hacker forums than a liability. Is this hit supposed to have been a delayed response to his earlier work? If Amir Taaki died under similar circumstances I would be leaning toward your interpretation of reality, but Lamo was a snitch who fed the feds useful information. Why him and not Taaki? Do you have a specific reason you think he was targeted, the way we have quotes from Hastings before his death about the new project he was working on attracting FBI attention? We can't just assume every intelligent hacker who ODs got murdered by the government, that's not a high enough barrier of evidence; intelligent people OD all the time.
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Sunday September 22 2019, @08:30AM
At the end of the day it's going to boil down how much you trust your government.
After las vegas, seth rich, hastings, and a bunch of other mysterious deaths for instance the ferguson protestors, why not throw in Paul Wellstone, yeah at this point the United States has just as much of a problem of disappearances and deaths as russia. Boston and San Bernadino are also highly suspect after investigation.
I see it as more 'tying up loose ends.' For people on the inside of the system of surveillance and state control, you are either controllable directly like a robot, or you are not. They don't want you writing a book later and exposing their operational tactics and capacities, or worse.
Think about how bad it is though, I don't trust local kansas news to report it one bit. I also think the government, whatever it is, has the ability to probably also disappear him completly.
The autopsy found a sticker with his name on it under his clothes, what if they cloned a dead body to leave and now lamo is in a secure facility somewhere where he will never be seen again. I can't explain that sticker with any normal thing that might happen. It's f&cking odd. I'm surprised anyone even reported it.
Did you watch the imitation game? Turing allegedly saved the world but 10 years later all of the spooks who were kissing his ass during the war weren't there when he was being driven to suicide over dumb puritanical laws. Did they really want or need an academic researcher operating independently outside of their control? Nope. They take the work of your intelligence and leave you to die, hand your work to people who could never in a million years have done it, and they use it to tyrannize everyone, consolidate their power.
That's what they did to the inventor of the computer, I would not think you should expect much more. This is why most of what I write is of the sort of thing the mucky mucks will have to work hard to erase, I can no longer feed a system that is just a murder machine. It represents a complete forgetting of american history.
Like I have been saying, the magna carta and bill of rights is not in effect on our planet so anyone can be killed, disappeared at any time and the historical record after the fact can be altered or erased, this is the power the government now has due to basically the republican party selling out the american people.
The us miiltary, who is reading this without any doubt, I think needs to reexamine why they got into soldiering in the first place and decide if they want to be an american, or if they want to be vassals of some cabals in haifa. To me it looks like an army of wolves being led by sheep and traitors, which allows essentially foreign mafias to operate freely in the country wiping their ass with the american flag.
When the rule of law is gone, you can't trust anything. When the official story is an obvious lie, all we are left with is our imagination. But if that doesn't inform our level of trust to change to adjust to new conditions, that is what it means to be a cow, livestock.
And I am not a cow. I don't have to have the exact answer to what happens behind the curtain, but I am not getting on the conveyor belt because I at least know it's dumb to trust the guy with his hand on the lever. Other people arguing til the end of time over what specifically is behind the curtain, continue their argument on the conveyor belt and are distracted from the fundamental issue, giving someone else complete power over themselves as they approach the rotating knives.
Sadly, the operator has his eye out for the stock who refuse to drink the koolaid and then moves them to the front of the line.
(Score: 2) by Alfred on Friday September 20 2019, @05:13PM
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:07PM (5 children)
Your tone, focus and representation of yourself sounds very much like my late nephew.
Not just in this comment, but in most of the stuff you've been posting here.
I know it's really difficult dealing with schizophrenia. My nephew (he was only 20 when diagnosed) had the choice to take his meds and feel *nothing*, but without the paranoid delusions and hallucinations, or feel alive but see assassins behind every lamppost.
He chose to end his own suffering (his parents stopped him from doing so on at least a half-dozen occasions) and he suffers no more.
We remember him [bensmemorialmile.com] and try to help make things better for those who are afflicted with this terrible illness.
I'm sorry that you have to go through this and I hope that medical science will, sooner rather than later, give you better choices than my nephew thought he had.
My heartfelt sympathy goes out to you.
I don't
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:27PM (4 children)
URL gives an expired cert error, which could exasperate schizophrenics?
The Epstein saga has been like cotton candy to people like J-Hud. But there are more reasons than ever to be paranoid, at least in America. May we live in interesting times.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @09:41PM (2 children)
Yeah. It expired on September 1st. I texted my brother about it a little while ago. Hopefully they can get the cert renewed soon.
Paranoia can be really debilitating, sure. Not sure what Epstein has to do with it. He was just a garden variety scumbag who happened to have lots of money. As such, it took much longer to nail him.
As for those who think he was murdered to keep him from revealing all his secrets about the rich and powerful, I'd point out that there are several other folks who were aiding and enabling Epstein's crimes. They were involved and at all the same "parties." As such, they can testify to all the rich, powerful folks courted by Epstein.
His death changes nothing. If all those other folks have fatal "accidents" or "suicide," then you might have something. Unless and until that happens, it's baseless speculation IMHO.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @10:03PM (1 child)
Were you paying attention to the media firestorm in the days before, and particularly after, Epstein's death? It was the joke everyone was in on. Even mainstream media outlets found the death to be fishy, especially when irregularities about inattentive guards, broken security cameras, and the rest came out. Epstein is the JFK or Pizzagate moment of 2019 and his death will be fodder for conspiracies for years and decades to come. Even if it was only a mundane suicide, paranoid schizophrenics aren't going to buy that. That might be why J-Hud is mentioning Epstein in every other comment. It has become an essential building block for their world view. Online trending anti-pedo crusaders will become enablers for the most virtuous of schizos.
Instead of closing the book, any co-conspirators will only add fuel to the fire. A fire which has now engulfed RMS of all people. Very easy to throw "they are trying to stop open, secure software and hardware" into the conspiracy brew. Pro-Trump, Anti-Trump, Cheese Pizza, free software, everyone gets an angle with Epstein!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 20 2019, @11:29PM
Oh. I see. So now I should worry about what conspiracy theory nutters and the batshit crazy think?
There are already enough problems in the world and in my life that have actual evidence. I won't ignore those in favor of half-baked ramblings and paranoid bullshit.
Want me to care about your pet bugaboo? Show me some verifiable evidence that it's a real issue that has real impact.
The death of a piece of shit rapist/trafficking hebeophile and the fallout from that certainly doesn't rise to that level, IMHO.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @06:19AM
FYI...According to the folks who manage the site, a renewed cert should be in place within 24 hours.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 21 2019, @03:01AM
He visited the Sac 2600 meeting a few weeks before his monitor went off and his electronic privileges were reinstated.... with a cellphone, that he was constantly texting on. He also had the suggestion that people should use mylar sheets above and below their weapons to make them x-ray proof for travelling via airlines, and claimed he had done this a few months prior. Given what has come out since, he was an FBI plant back then, and the only reason he wasn't there longer is a twink misogynist friend of his got into an IRC spat with the sole remaining female member of that group and after she ripped into him, he refused to come back, and Lamo with him. I think he had a somewhat pretty girlfriend with him at the time, but she didn't talk much and could've been his handler for all I know. As to the drugs, he didn't seem high at the time, although he had that look like he was always working angles. Didn't really provide any great insight into pentesting either when asked, except that he couldn't software develop his way out of a wet paper box.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday September 20 2019, @04:38PM (1 child)
So you conjecture that there exist law enforcement officials that know that HTML and HTTP are not the same thing?
(donuts are not downloadable. Even while in police vehicles.)
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday September 20 2019, @05:22PM
Yes, a very small minority, maybe even smaller than the minority in the general population, and they won't be the ones interacting with the public in an open capacity like enforcement or bureaucratic desk sitting, but, sure.
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