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posted by janrinok on Saturday November 02 2019, @11:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the cap-in-hand dept.

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New York Supreme Court dismisses Uber's challenge to vehicle caps

Uber's bid to overturn New York City's ride-hailing caps didn't last long --New York's Supreme Court has dismissed the company's request to annul the cap law implemented in August 2018. The court rejected Uber's claim that NYC had overstepped its bounds. There have been far less specific delegations of power that have passed muster before, according to the Supreme Court. It also rebuffed Uber's assertion that other laws preempted the caps.

Uber told Engadget it was "disappointed" with the outcome, claiming that it "punishes" drivers who are obligated to rent cars. In the past, it has argued that the caps would hurt outer boroughs (with less access to mass transit) and wouldn't fix NYC's problems with traffic congestion.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02 2019, @11:39PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02 2019, @11:39PM (#915161)

    Fuck me, I am an USian, but have no clue what "caps" are.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday November 02 2019, @11:51PM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday November 02 2019, @11:51PM (#915164) Journal

      Limits/maximums

      The city is the first in the US to limit the number of drivers for Uber and Lyft.

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      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @12:28AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @12:28AM (#915170)

        Jebus, once again, you have to explain it to me, an American redneck.

        And all them non-American infidels are supposed to grok this?

        • (Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:42AM (1 child)

          by Mojibake Tengu (8598) on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:42AM (#915182) Journal
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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Sunday November 03 2019, @06:35AM

            by Gaaark (41) on Sunday November 03 2019, @06:35AM (#915240) Journal

            Yeah, eh! Here in Canada we play 'caps' all the time:

            You put your beer bottle on the floor in front of ya,eh, with the bottle cap perched (Gods I love fresh pan fried perch) upside down on the top of the bottle neck? And so does your opponent,sitting on the floor a little away from you's. You tries, with another bottle cap, to knock his bottle cap off his bottle. If you doos, he has to take a drink, eh. Etiquette says you takes a swig as well, just to be nice. If you's don't, eh,you's has to say sorry.

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @10:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @10:01AM (#915274)

      Something to stop dust getting into your wheelnuts. With the addd benefit that stret people can steal them fo a little extra cash.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:11AM (5 children)

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:11AM (#915179)

    82 years ago, New York City implemented the taxi medallion system to prevent Manhattan's streets from becoming a useless gridlock of "free market" taxicabs hoping to earn a living - essentially putting some limits to prevent an utter tragedy of the commons failure of the surface street system.

    Why Uber/Lyft/Bozo's rideshare system thinks they're any different from a Taxi is beyond me. Willful stupidity is no exemption from the law.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 03 2019, @02:51AM (4 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 03 2019, @02:51AM (#915194) Journal

      They're just pushing things as far as we let them. They should be regulated like any other transport service, with all vehicles and drivers bonded/insured and certified roadworthy.

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday November 03 2019, @03:14AM (3 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday November 03 2019, @03:14AM (#915197) Journal

        By the time all of the court cases are over, there will be a fast and furious transition to driverless. Waymo and Uber execs will collect the medallions and put them on display. Scalps of the dead-in-a-ditch taxi drivers.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @05:11AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 03 2019, @05:11AM (#915224)
          It will be a long wait until driverless cars can navigate the sea of pedestrians and bicyclists just as fearlessly as NYC drivers have to do it today.
        • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:35PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Sunday November 03 2019, @01:35PM (#915313)

          Driverless cabs still need medallions, they're still using the public streets.

          If Uber could fly, then I'd grant them exemption from the medallion system, for the surface streets at least. Manhattan would likely need an even more restrictive medallion system for air-cabs.

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        • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Sunday November 03 2019, @08:11PM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Sunday November 03 2019, @08:11PM (#915425)

          Uber lost $5.2 billion in the last quarter. I think that winds up being over $55 million per day.

          Nobody at Uber will be buying anything if they can't keep finding more of other people's money to lose.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by number11 on Sunday November 03 2019, @02:30AM

    by number11 (1170) Subscriber Badge on Sunday November 03 2019, @02:30AM (#915188)

    It's perhaps worth noting that New York uses names of courts that may not be what you'd expect. The "Supreme Court" is actually a county trial-level court (there's a branch in each of 62 counties). There is an "Appellate Division of the Supreme Court", where appeals of Supreme Court cases would be heard, and a Court of Appeals, which is the highest level court of the state.

    The article does use the term "New York's Supreme Court", but it's not clear that the journalist understands that "SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK - NEW YORK COUNTY" (the heading on the court document they link to) is not a state court comparable to the US Supreme Court.

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