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posted by martyb on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the cars-with-hungry-*people*-in-them dept.

Thousands of cars form lines to collect food in Texas:

North Texas Food Bank (NTFB) distributed more than 600,000 pounds of food for about 25,000 people on Saturday, according to spokeswoman Anna Kuruan. There were 7,280 turkeys distributed to families, Kuruan told CNN.

Photos provided by NTFB show thousands of cars lined up for NTFB's Drive-Thru Mobile Pantry at Fair Park. Kuruan said the need for food "has certainly increased" with the pandemic, with Texas last week becoming the first US state to report 1 million cases of coronavirus.

"Forty percent of the folks coming through our partners doors are doing so for the first time," she said.

"I see blessings coming to us cause we all struggling. And I appreciate North Texas helping us out," Dallas resident Samantha Woods told CNN affiliate KTVT as she waited in her vehicle.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by krishnoid on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:26AM (5 children)

    by krishnoid (1156) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:26AM (#1078102)

    From the start of a pandemic, allowed to run wild, through progressive job losses, savings depletion, and supply logistics starvation (?) -- about 8 months? I guess that would vary somewhat from state to state.

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:17AM (4 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:17AM (#1078120) Homepage Journal

      You think this was running wild? Huh, I thought it was being drug out interminably.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:54PM (3 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:54PM (#1078270) Journal

        It was drugged out interminably because no effort was made to control it. In fact, considerable effort [soylentnews.org] was made to downplay it and pretend it will just get better. Like the way a person would fail to react if Maraloco was on fire.

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        • (Score: 2, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:09PM (2 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:09PM (#1078281) Homepage Journal

          If no effort was made to control it, you would have seen hospitals flooded in the spring instead of the fall and it would be gone by now. What you're bitching about are half measures not absent measures.

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          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:11PM

            by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:11PM (#1078342)

            If no effort was made to control it, you would have seen hospitals flooded in the spring instead of the fall and it would be gone by now.

            Saying it would be gone by now is wishful thinking at best. There would also be 2 to 3 million people gone instead of "only" 250,000+.

            What you're bitching about are half measures not absent measures.

            I will agree that what we had here were half measures.

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:19PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:19PM (#1078370)

            Go fuck yourself you pants shitting necrophiliac.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:26AM (47 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:26AM (#1078103) Journal

    I used to queue, with money in hand, for food during the time of my life I lived under a communist regime.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:44AM (17 children)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:44AM (#1078110) Journal

      Did you have a back yard, and use it to grow your own veggies?

      I had an accidental venture into gardening this year. Dumped a rotten cantaloupe in the back yard, and a month later had cantaloupe vines growing. Pretty cool. And being totally lazy and believing in letting nature take its course and life should fend for itself, I did nothing to help the garden. Got about a dozen cantaloupe, of which we manged to harvest and eat just one. Lost all the rest to passing animals, insects, and it being too late in the season for the last few melons to completely mature. Saw a racoon in the garden one night. Still, getting that far, I count a marginal success. What usually happens is that whatever I plant never even sprouts, or if it does, it soon dies from too little or possibly too much watering.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:54AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:54AM (#1078113)

        The only real success for me was my paprika. Everything else was strongly predated upon by animals.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:10PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:10PM (#1078423)

          Tomatillos do very well for me, self-seeding and growing with no issues, and the deer don't even try to eat them. Most other nightshades get eaten or diseased quickly. Alliums are by far the easiest, I have patches of garlic chives all over my lawn.

      • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:04AM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:04AM (#1078115) Journal

        Did you have a back yard, and use it to grow your own veggies?

        Nope, only the grandparents. For whom too we were trying to buy sugar and cooking oil.

        Yes, summer school holiday were the times when I greened my thumbs.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 18 2020, @06:49AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 18 2020, @06:49AM (#1078705)

          Did you have a back yard, and use it to grow your own veggies?

          Nope, only the grandparents. For whom too we were trying to buy sugar and cooking oil.

          Yes, summer school holiday were the times when I greened my thumbs.

          You grew your grandparents in your back yard?

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday November 18 2020, @07:10AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 18 2020, @07:10AM (#1078708) Journal

            Spent summer holidays at my grandparents house, at countryside.
            Hard to get a backyard in a 28sqm apartment at the second floor.

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      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:21AM (10 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:21AM (#1078122)

        Next time save the seeds and throw them out in the yard in the mid spring. Then water all you want. It's hard to over water cantaloupe. When the critters come a calling then you have meat to go with your fresh cantaloupe. You also get some much needed target practice. Something you might need soon with the way things are going. Pumpkins are easy too. You do have one left over right now don't you?

        • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:55AM (2 children)

          by krishnoid (1156) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:55AM (#1078164)

          Even better if you plant the carnivorous variety. Then they defend themselves *and* provide you with the fresh meat.

          • (Score: 2) by driverless on Wednesday November 18 2020, @01:45AM (1 child)

            by driverless (4770) on Wednesday November 18 2020, @01:45AM (#1078604)

            Or kudzu. Just throw a bit of it anywhere, say a concrete driveway, and a few days later everything will be covered in kudzu. Then all you need to do is figure out how to make it edible and you're set for life.

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:00AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:00AM (#1078186)

          When the critters come a calling then you have meat to go with your fresh cantaloupe. You also get some much needed target practice.

          Is this American thing to do? Kill things because? Fucking hell. The cantaloupe at the store is $1 but you are willing to spend $10 in ammo to "target practice" some animal because you are too fucking stupid to protect your $1 in cantaloupe garden? In the rest of the world, we would try to be smarter than the animals.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @12:23PM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @12:23PM (#1078212) Homepage Journal

            Because they're fucking with our crops? Damned skippy we do.

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          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:57PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:57PM (#1078273) Journal
            To be fair, they get eaten.
          • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:16PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:16PM (#1078287)

            The gun is used to get meat to eat. Not to protect your garden as much. The garden is just the bait for very tasty meat.
            Meat at the store: $5/lbs
            One bullet: $0.05

            You only get one shot per critter. Most will run very fast after the first shot. If you need more that one bullet then your a very bad and need the target practice. When the hunger sets in you'll try harder not to miss.

            And yet you fail to be smarter.

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:59PM (1 child)

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:59PM (#1078395) Journal

            In the rest of the world, we would try to be smarter than the animals.

            Oh please. Have you actually been to the "rest of the world?" Or are you living in your little bubble in suburban London?

            Try being a squirrel in China. Or a sparrow. Or a grasshopper. Or a scorpion. You will be eaten.

            In Africa, they are not so terribly interested in your endangered species as they are in eating them. Even the ones with ten fingers and toes like us.

            In South America, they don't pamper their guinea pigs with IAMS pet food; the guinea pigs are the meal.

            But, yes, oh high and mighty and morally superior non-American, it is only Americans that kill animals.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:04PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:04PM (#1078452)

              Don't forget about poaching elephants for their ivory. Which country does that occur in?

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:41PM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:41PM (#1078385) Journal

          Depending on location, early spring might work better. Farmers Almanac and other sources can help a person to decide when to plant. Or just talk to local farmers and gardeners.

          Where I live, mid spring is pretty late to be planting a garden because summer heat will burn it all up before you get a harvest.

          YMMV depending on local weather and climate patterns, elevation, and more.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:11PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:11PM (#1078402) Journal

        Hear, hear. Don't waste acreage on lawn. Use it to grow food, medicine, and materials. If you have problems with racoons or other pests, get a couple cats and a dog. I read other people route chickens through runs in the garden to eat up snails and insects; I haven't tried that myself so YMMV.

        Compost your kitchen scraps, leaves, and lawn clippings (if you have a lawn), put some red worms in the compost bin and in a few weeks you'll have beautiful black soil. Saves on bags of soil and fertilizer. You also have to bag less garbage.

        Also, there are many "weeds" that are edible and tasty. Clover is delicious, tastes like lime, and goes great on salads. Purslayne is also awesome. Plaintains cook up like spinach. Dandelion greens are very good for you; they can be bitter like broccoli rabe but work in the same combinations. If you have oak trees around you can collect acorns by the bushel and process them into hearty flour. Cattails are not considered a weed, but have many edible parts. There are lots of books out there on the subject, and Les Stroud from Survivorman fame has a new show on called Wild Harvest that covers a lot of the same ground.

        There's a bit of learned social behaviors to get past, but once you do you might find you prefer it because there are flavors and textures growing all around us that are better and more novel than anything you can get from a grocery store.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jelizondo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:49AM (16 children)

      by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:49AM (#1078112) Journal

      Sorry, are you suggesting it is better not to have money for food?

      It is a sincere question, if you don't have food because the government screwed up, is it better that you have currency to buy food or not?

      See the parallel? The government screwed up, and it doesn't matter if it was communist or capitalist: people are going hungry.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:10AM (15 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:10AM (#1078117) Journal

        Sorry, are you suggesting it is better not to have money for food?

        Bottom line, do your guts feel differently story when you have money but no food then when there is food but you don't have money for it?

        See the parallel? The government screwed up, and it doesn't matter if it was communist or capitalist: people are going hungry.

        My point exactly, glad I didn't screw up in transmitting it across.

        Does the mocking of "free market good, govt bad" position got across to?

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        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:16AM (9 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:16AM (#1078119) Homepage Journal

          False comparison. That's a food bank for people who can't afford it. Supermarkets aren't hurting at all so you'd notice.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:27AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:27AM (#1078126)

            Supermarkets stocked by magical market fairies.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:37AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:37AM (#1078132)

              > Supermarkets stocked by magical market fairies.

              That's funny, around here the supermarkets are stocked by people who (long ago) were once called "stock boys". The pay may not be much for this entry level position, but they are paid.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:21AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:21AM (#1078203) Homepage Journal

              Supermarkets are stocked by food wholesalers who are not currently overtaxed on anything except labor supply. Food banks are stocked by retailers and individuals, who absolutely do have less disposable income because of the economic impact of over half a year of coronaids panic, and a whole lot more people being unemployed for the same reason.

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          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:36AM (5 children)

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:36AM (#1078129) Journal

            False comparison.

            You may agree or not on the conclusions one can draw from the comparison, but it has enough common terms to be valid.

            That's a food bank for people who can't afford it. Supermarkets aren't hurting at all so you'd notice.

            As yet. Let's hope it will stay the same, my sincere wishes for it.

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        • (Score: 5, Interesting) by jelizondo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:23AM (4 children)

          by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:23AM (#1078124) Journal

          Does the mocking of "free market good, govt bad" position got across to?

          Nope, it did't. That is why I posted the question. If your family is going hungry, you don't really care if the government is left or right, or up or down; or sideways for that matter.

          One system doesn't produce enough the other produces a lot more, but it will not distribute it to everyone. We need a society that cares for people, yes, even the unemployable drunkards or the "artist" who won't work for a living. I'm no saying these should live in luxury, but getting at least a meal a day is for such people is well within the means of most modern societies and it would not cost anything. Think about all the food we throw away, both at the point of production to keep prices from falling as well as from our pantries.

          • (Score: 2) by Tokolosh on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:38PM (3 children)

            by Tokolosh (585) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:38PM (#1078258)

            Let them eat their cars and television sets and smartphones and Nike sneakers.

            • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:01PM (2 children)

              by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:01PM (#1078276) Journal

              In North Korea they boil their boots in order to make the shoe leather chewable.

              Let them eat their cars and television sets and smartphones and Nike sneakers.

              Sounds similar to aristocracy saying "Let them eat twinkies".

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              • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:12PM (1 child)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:12PM (#1078284) Homepage Journal

                More like "Fuck em if they're going to waste their money on frivolous bullshit then come begging to me".

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                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:22PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:22PM (#1078371)

                  Stick a pinecone up yer pooper you twisted excuse for a loin cloth.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by FatPhil on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:06AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:06AM (#1078167) Homepage
      Did you know that Poland invented the hamburger?
      It was a meat token between two bread tokens!
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:07AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:07AM (#1078188)

      I used to queue, with money in hand, for food during the time of my life I lived under a communist regime.

      And people did the same in non-communist countries too. The idea that there is always plenty to go around is very new.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

      You also forget to mention that queuing in line in your communist country was not because you didn't have food but because you wanted to get your hands on something that was in limited supply. The lines you see at food back are not because of limited supply of food.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:28AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:28AM (#1078192) Journal

        You also forget to mention that queuing in line in your communist country was not because you didn't have food but because you wanted to get your hands on something that was in limited supply.

        Theories don't feed people. I fail to see what difference does it make that I "forget to mention that sugar, cooking oil, meat, pasta etc were in limited supply" to the feeling of hunger and to the "economic productivity" value of the time one spends queuing for basics.

        The lines you see at food back are not because of limited supply of food.

        Indeed. However, in spite of the specific differences, there is a common denominator for both of them. Can you theorize on it too?

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    • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:39PM (7 children)

      by epitaxial (3165) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @01:39PM (#1078227)

      Most people aren't doing too bad. People will call off work for a day just to get something for free...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:05PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:05PM (#1078279)

        The lack of empathy is what is really hurting us all these days. The people around you look to be doing ok, so everybody must be doing ok and therefore those people must be grifters.

        A lot of the farm states are shrilly shrieking the dangers of "socialism" while happily taking in $60B in welfare [politico.com]. And they proudly and loudly voted to reelect the guy responsible for putting them on welfare and has no coherent plan to get them off of it. How come these welfare queens who are looking for something for free are never included in the "welfare queen" discussions?

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:15PM (5 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:15PM (#1078286) Homepage Journal

          Not a good argument. When you forcibly take someone who does not want socialism's money for socialism, you can bet your ass they are going to get back every penny they can by any means available. That doesn't mean they want socialism.

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:24PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:24PM (#1078372)

            Have you tried smoking while drinking in bed? It is such FUN to scoff at the silly anxieties of other people. I think a stable genius like yourself would quite enjoy it!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:22PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @08:22PM (#1078430)

            I don't criticise them for taking the money. I criticise them for voting for the guy who put them in that situation, after he put them in that situation. He took away their markets, all the while lying about how it works and why he's doing it, then blatantly put them on welfare, then follows that with a bigger chunk of change right before the election (welfare AND bribery), and has ZERO plan for getting their markets back, and in fact, hasn't done jack shit for many months because he has basically lost interest after giving out the bribe.

            If you want to actively vote that guy back into office, you're fine with welfare (as long as it is for you and you don't call it by that name). Your welfare is my subsidy. Po-tay-to, po-tat-o.

            They should at least have the decency to not complain about money being given out to people for nothing.

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:46PM (2 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:46PM (#1078503) Homepage Journal

              If they're satisfied with what they get when they vote the way they vote, it's none of your business. The nonsense you're spouting is no more valid than saying guys who vote for meat on their pizza are somehow morally wrong for eating the supremes that get ordered when the vote goes against them. You just want to bitch whether you have any ground to stand on or not.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 18 2020, @01:13AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 18 2020, @01:13AM (#1078592)

                I see we have your patented genius on display today *eyeroll*

    • (Score: 2) by jelizondo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:05PM

      by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:05PM (#1078483) Journal

      Just to illustrate the point: food shortage in the UK [theguardian.com]

      The number of people using foodbanks this year has risen by nearly a half.

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:27AM

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:27AM (#1078104) Journal

    Yes, do count your blessings... Hey, at least it ain't snowing, eh? [kathmandupost.com]

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:28AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:28AM (#1078127)

    Not fast food; but with a little work, dirt and water (these are free.)
    https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/how-to-grow-fresh-produce-from-your-leftover-groceries-48787 [bobvila.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:37AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:37AM (#1078131)

      bump

      Better start thinking about victory gardens now for "great power conflict."

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:03AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:03AM (#1078142) Journal

      Well, some may say that water is not actually that free. Especially during years-long droughts.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:24AM (#1078145)

      Tomatoes are by far the easiest to grow, but sprouting seeds from store-bought fruit is probably a bad idea. You might get an undesirable hybrid, or the tough character of a store-bought tomato. If you're going to make the effort, get good seeds for a tasty variety from a seed distributor with a good reputation. I don't want to name names, but steer clear of cheap seeds from the dollar store. Spend just a bit more for name brand seed, and a little goes a long way. I buy a small packet of tomato seed every 2 or 3 years. They keep in the fridge.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:09AM (23 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:09AM (#1078166)

    Seriously, you lot... you are so past it with your limited ideas of what the world does or should look like... I supposed this discussion will soon devolve in to yet another Trump vs Biden clash. Geez, in hindsight I with Hillary had won in 2016 and finally started thermonuclar war with Russia. At least I wouldn't have to care about your bullshit any more then.

    Even the supposed "born commie" does not bat an eyelash that this supposedly TOO POOR FOR FOOD crowd came in their own cars? I won't even bother with TFA but I expect they had a drive thru terminal there?

    Do you even know what "poor" means?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by PiMuNu on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:00AM

      by PiMuNu (3823) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:00AM (#1078174)

      I agree, but it's a feature of the broken American infrastructure - either walk for a day or spend 50 cents on Diesel (to get $100 worth of food). I realise in many countries there is no infrastructure broken or otherwise, so the choice is walk for a day or starve.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:19AM (19 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:19AM (#1078190)

      Hillary had won in 2016 and finally started thermonuclar war with Russia

      TOO POOR FOR FOOD crowd came in their own cars?

      Well, there you go, two stupid statements that perfectly articulate your lack of understanding of either topic.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/05/california-housing-homeless-rv-cars-bay-area [theguardian.com]
      https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/us/los-angeles-car-living-homeless.html [nytimes.com]
      https://invisiblepeople.tv/homeless-people-living-in-cars/ [invisiblepeople.tv]

      To put it mildly, if you are living in America (aside from few places, like NYC), and you don't have a car, then you might as well be living in a 3rd world country.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:22AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:22AM (#1078204)

        fixed Your last sentence: If you are living in America (aside from few places, like NYC), you are living a 3rd world country (with iPhones).

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:31PM (5 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:31PM (#1078253) Journal

          If you are living in America (aside from few places, like NYC), you are living a 3rd world country (with iPhones).

          In all honesty that could only be written by someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in real 3rd world countries or in America outside a few big cities. In 3rd world countries the poor starve. In America, the poor are fat.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:30PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:30PM (#1078376)

            Oh boy, we got the suburban man-of-culture here wowing us with his internet sound bites! As usual you take a kernel of truth and spin it into some ignorant ass shit.

            I'm thinking it is time we leave this place to the Trumpers, no useful discussion to be had when 80% of it is spent debunking morons.

            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:51PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:51PM (#1078509) Homepage Journal

              Would you like me to hold the door for you so it doesn't hit your ass on the way out?

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            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday November 18 2020, @02:48PM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday November 18 2020, @02:48PM (#1078788) Journal

              suburban

              Suburban?

              man-of-culture

              Thanks for noticing. Ma said if I stuck it out through sixth grade it would pay off later.

              internet sound bites

              Best to use short, simple words and phrases with the simple and the disturbed.

              As usual you take a kernel of truth

              That's what I do, plant kernels of truth and hope they grow into trees of understanding.

              spin it into some ignorant ass shit.

              Asses are generally ignorant, which follows because they are barnyard animals after all. But I don't have anything to do with donkeys anymore, because they have chosen to dive headfirst into mounds of both ignorance and manure.

              I'm thinking it is time we leave this place to the Trumpers, no useful discussion to be had when 80% of it is spent debunking morons

              There is plenty of useful discussion to be had, if only you would check your politics at the door. Geekdom unites us, and through Geekdom we can all march forward into a glorious geek future.

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          • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:28PM (1 child)

            by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:28PM (#1078408) Journal
            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:50PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:50PM (#1078507) Homepage Journal

              Dude, try being around poor people sometime. It's honest to fuck cheaper to have nutritious meals but people are fucking lazy and don't want to spend the time cooking. So they buy pre-made garbage full of HFCS, flavoring, fat, and little else.

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      • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:32AM (10 children)

        by legont (4179) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @11:32AM (#1078205)

        A bike or even a scooter is way cheaper and as practical as a car at least in warm places like Texas. The fact they still do own cars tells some different story.

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        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:26PM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:26PM (#1078248) Journal

          According to the average temperature in Texas, yes, but not according to the average distances in Texas.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:21PM (6 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:21PM (#1078289) Homepage Journal

          If you live in a city and never, ever leave the city you live in, yes. That isn't even slightly the norm in Texas though. Take a bike or scooter on the Interstate and you're going to get arrested if you don't get run over first. Even if neither of the above happen for some miraculous reason, your ass is going to be sleeping on the roadside because it's simply too far to ride between towns (for either exhaustion or lack of fuel reasons) in plenty of places.

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          • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:31PM (5 children)

            by legont (4179) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:31PM (#1078295)

            There is a new normal in the country and more fresh "normals" are coming.

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            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:40PM (4 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:40PM (#1078301) Homepage Journal

              You can say that five million times and it won't make Austin a single inch closer to San Antonio or Dallas.

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              • (Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:08PM (3 children)

                by legont (4179) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @04:08PM (#1078312)

                Well, I can see people hiking to get food right from my window. It's 6 miles one way, 5 miles the other, and below freezing. Not too many yet, but increasing week after week.

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                • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:37PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:37PM (#1078383)

                  Don't argue with him, he is just mad that he is too fat to walk. If his car breaks down he might actually lise weight!!

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:47PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @06:47PM (#1078392) Journal

                  You forgot the "uphill both ways".

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                • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:53PM

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @10:53PM (#1078512) Homepage Journal

                  In the US? Sure ya can. Dude, ain't no need to lie. If you're wrong just admit you're wrong and go on with your day.

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        • (Score: 4, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:22PM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:22PM (#1078349) Journal

          In America people give up their houses/apartments BEFORE they give up their cars when they run out of money.

          1: Cars are what allow people to get to their jobs to make money in a lot of cases.
          2: You can sleep in it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:13PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @09:13PM (#1078457)

        What's crazy is that California has among the highest taxes in the nation and much of those taxes exist in order to fund their social programs. Yet they have high homeless rates. So more taxes and more socialism isn't the solution. Yet the democrats would insist that it is.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:19PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:19PM (#1078347) Journal

      TOO POOR FOR FOOD crowd came in their own cars?

      Nope, they came in their HOUSES!

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:50PM

      by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @05:50PM (#1078359)

      Even the supposed "born commie" does not bat an eyelash that this supposedly TOO POOR FOR FOOD crowd came in their own cars?

      Perhaps the car is paid for? I remember a story from a few years back about people bitching about a couple getting assistance driving a BMW or something. Pretty bad, right? Until it was found out that both had lost their jobs during the recession, and the car was paid for.

      This notion that people shouldn't get assistance until they are completely destitute and homeless with absolutely nothing left is asinine. How about we help people who are in danger of becoming destitute and homeless? You know, during a recession brought on by a deadly disease?

      I know I know: you got yours; fuck them.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:47PM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 17 2020, @02:47PM (#1078266) Journal

    Dear Wife and I hear multiple times per week how tough it is to put food on the table. However, we notice that there is never a shortage of empty beverage bottles lying around. True, everyone has tightened their belts, at least a little bit, but the kids are still far from understanding what "hard times" really are. Maybe next spring, I'll convince the young asses to plant a real garden? If not, I'll know they still don't understand.

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    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:27PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 17 2020, @03:27PM (#1078293) Homepage Journal

      You're looking at those beverage bottles while sitting in temperature controlled air and posting about it on a computer. Yeah, they have not clue one what hard times actually are. Sure looks like they're going to find out though.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:41PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 17 2020, @07:41PM (#1078411)

    This is the cost of the Jew psyop of Christianity and lazy, dumb parents who let the Jew-controlled state raise their kids. Superstitious, gullible Whites feeding people who shouldn't even be here. Like we need more Mongoloids or Homo erectus hybrids in this country. Let them starve, or go home. If they start looting when they get hungry, eliminate them. Stop being so dumb, Whitey!

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