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posted by martyb on Monday February 15 2021, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the paler-parlay-parlor dept.

Parler is back online after a month of downtime:

The alternative social network Parler has reopened after a month offline. The company announced in a press release that the site is now accessible for users with existing accounts and will accept new signups starting next week. It's also announced a new interim CEO: Mark Meckler, who previously cofounded the right-wing group Tea Party Patriots.

[...] Old Parler user accounts have been restored, but old "parleys" — the site's term for posts — don't appear to have carried over. Some high-profile users, like Fox News host Sean Hannity, have begun posting on the new site already. The timelines for other major accounts, like fellow host Tucker Carlson or Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), remain empty.

[...] The platform has now relaunched with what a press release calls "robust, sustainable, independent technology." Parler transferred its domain registration in January to Epik, a registrar known for providing a haven to "deplatformed" far-right-friendly sites.

[...] Apple and Google haven't restored its app to their stores, and it's still fighting an ongoing lawsuit against Amazon, where a judge appeared unsympathetic to its claims. [...] It's also under scrutiny in Congress — where House Oversight Committee chair Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) has requested documents on Parler's financing and operations.

Also:
Parler announces its relaunch with Mark Meckler named as interim CEO a month after being shut down in the wake of the Capitol riots

Parler relaunches under new CEO after free-speech site was deplatformed amid Capitol riot


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday February 15 2021, @11:56PM (74 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday February 15 2021, @11:56PM (#1113347) Journal

    Are all these people stupid? (Well, yeah, I think we know the answer to that but humor me.) If I were in one of the alphabet-soup agencies I'd be encouraging the proliferation of places like Parler for the specific purpose of corralling all these whackadoos in a few places where they can be carefully monitored...

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:07AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:07AM (#1113350)

      It's a containment zone for the boomers. All the real action is on Telegram and Signal.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Magic Oddball on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:36AM

        by Magic Oddball (3847) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:36AM (#1113410) Journal

        Most of the people in those groups that are communicating off Facebook are way too young to be Baby Boomers. You might also notice that virtually everyone in videos of the Capitol Hill riot was well under age 50...

        Also, in my part of the country, most of the Boomers were hippies as teens/early-twentysomethings, and have been registered Democrats or Greens ever since. Depicting their entire generation as hyper-conservative based on the attitudes of the ones in the conservative parts of the country is foolish, inaccurate ageist bigotry.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:09PM (#1113790)

        Boomers. Yet another designation to create a "them".

        I'm thinking it takes more intelligence to see similarities among all the various "us" and "them".

    • (Score: 0, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:18AM (15 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:18AM (#1113353)

      .quiet AzumaHazuki

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:26AM (14 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:26AM (#1113359) Journal

        Already posted that exact comment elsewhere. That one got a Troll, *this* one gets a Spam since it's an exact byte-for-byte duplicate. You're not very bright, are you...?

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        • (Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:30AM (1 child)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:30AM (#1113362) Homepage Journal

          Indeed. Enjoy the righteousness of your mod.

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          • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:44AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:44AM (#1113371)

            Not spam. Legitimate response to an asinine post. Thank you!

        • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:40AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:40AM (#1113369)

          .quiet AzumaHazuki

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:14AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:14AM (#1113394)

          Now we need to spam mod you for repetitively posting hate speech about conservatives.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM (#1113404)
            Good, then you can complete the illustration of just how badly-informed you dipshits are.
          • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:33AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:33AM (#1113406)

            We can call it "-1 Safespace"

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 17 2021, @01:21AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 17 2021, @01:21AM (#1113892) Journal

            Go check the guidelines for what the Spam mod is for :) Also? Free hint: pointing out where, why, and how "conservatives" are full of shit isn't hate speech. If you don't want it pointed out where, why, and how you're full of shit, maybe try not being full of shit?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:29AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:29AM (#1113402)

          Just so you know, some of this stuff leaks back into the forums. someone posted the precise same comment, byte for byte, twice, so one got a Troll and the second got a Spam. Play Stupid Games etc

        • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM (#1113405)

          Yeah,but, this time it's funny, and very appropriate! We shall mod him back up to save his IP from your wrath. So there! pffft!

          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:39AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:39AM (#1113412)

            Better yet, 10 or more people reply to her posts with the same thing: .quiet AzumaHazuki

            It isn't spam if it's coming from many different IP addresses.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:29AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:29AM (#1113543)

              FBI is tracking all the IP addresses. They have friends at the NSA. They can turn on your laptop camera without you knowing. . . . Stop that, you wanker!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:12AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:12AM (#1113427)

            .quit AC

            Seriously. You have no idea of the powers you are messing with.

            • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:57AM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:57AM (#1113445)

              Say goodnight, ari...

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:01AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:01AM (#1113535)

                Goodnight, Ari! (Who is Ari? Is it that Public Radio reporter? Or someone else?)

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:33AM (38 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:33AM (#1113365) Homepage Journal

      I'd say it's probably more of a corporate douchebags trying to cash in on those being silenced without actually holding the free speech ideals thing. It's pretty much exactly how their actions to date read.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:52AM (36 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:52AM (#1113379)

        Hey I've got an idea! STOP storming the Capitol. Hope that helps.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:00AM (33 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:00AM (#1113386)

          Don't stop burning down cities. Finish the job.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:27AM (30 children)

            by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:27AM (#1113401)

            At least they're not trying to overthrow a legitimately elected government delivered by the most secure election in history and actively seeking to murder the V.P. and a long list of others while vandalizing and shitting (literally!) in the Capitol....a bit of property damage by agent provocateurs does not equate to insurrection.

            They also didn't beat cops with an American Flag.
            Deplorable does not even begin to cover the "patriots" criminals Trump "loved" so much.

            If BLM had tried this the body count would of been extensive.

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            • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:35AM (23 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:35AM (#1113408)

              the most secure election in history

              Oh puuleeeeze! Pull the other one! The fucking media really has you hooked!

              • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:42AM (5 children)

                by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:42AM (#1113415) Journal
                Okie doke: Show us the provable facts you're operating from.
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                • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:04AM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:04AM (#1113447)

                  * Vote totals in key states showed implasuable vote spikes for Biden [worldtribune.com]
                  * Several spikes were larger [americanthinker.com] than the voting machines could have physically counted
                  * Fulton county, Georgia shredded ballots [worldtribune.com] when an audit was ordered
                  * Voting machines reported non-integer [americanthinker.com] numbers of votes

                  This whole presidential election just plain smells bad [substack.com]. No matter how hard trolls troll, anyone who's actually *looking* knows it.

                  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Tork on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:11AM (2 children)

                    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:11AM (#1113448) Journal

                    No matter how hard trolls troll, anyone who's actually *looking* knows it.

                    So why aren't the Republicans looking?

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                    • (Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:58AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:58AM (#1113454)

                      "So why aren't the Republicans looking?"
                      From where their noses are buried it's hard to see around the billionaires' fat asses.

                    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Tork on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:14PM

                      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:14PM (#1113670) Journal
                      Troll? It's a valid question. I'm seriously asking. Here, I'll try an analogy: We're going to Wally World. We've packed the car, we've made our itinerary, and most importantly we've checked and found websites that prove the existence of Wally World and that it's open. This is where you've gotten to in the story. The problem is, nobody will get into the car. Not the driver, not the passengers, the mechanic won't even look at it. And the owner of Wally World is afraid of going out of business if we don't arrive by a certain date. I wanna know why nobody got in the car. Not Trump, not Giuliani, not Cruz, not Graham, not McConnell, not even Fox News. Why? Is the tank empty? Is the starter busted? Did someone leave skidmarks in the backseat and no-one wants to ride with that?
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                  • (Score: 5, Touché) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:11PM

                    by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:11PM (#1113645)

                    Nice 'evidence' from some right-wing blogs. Pathetic.

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              • (Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:09AM (16 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:09AM (#1113423)

                Thank you -- I was expecting that post to be sarcastic but it turns out, the poster believes that shit. If mail in ballots are so secure, why aren't they good enough for a union ballot at Amazon. If signature verification should be eliminated, why are the Newsom recall petitions being heavily scrutinized for valid signatures? If closed source network connected IoT devices are so notoriously insecure, why do we allow that with voting machines? And what the fuck is going on in NH with their machines?

                Most secure election evar my ass.

                • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:21AM (15 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:21AM (#1113449)
                  > If mail in ballots are so secure, why aren't they good enough for a union ballot at Amazon.

                  Because they don't want to do all the steps the gov't requires for mail-in votes.

                  > Most secure election evar my ass.

                  The way you guys talk there should be a million and one ways to prove that there was election fraud, yet you all stick to quoting niche websites that make money from telling you what you want to hear. Gee I wonder why that is? 🤔
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:56AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:56AM (#1113480)

                    You mean ignoring signature verification and reducing standards for matching like the government did this time around?

                  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:26AM (13 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:26AM (#1113509)

                    Have you ever, even for a moment, considered the fact, just for a moment, that corporations are not only part of the political establishment in the US, but also some of its largest beneficiaries. And who owns the sites and media you would consider 'not niche'? Yip, those exact same corporations. Disney owns ABC, Comcast owns NBC, AT&T owns CNN, so forth and so on. And those niche websites don't just tell people what they "want" to hear, but provide third party evidence for such. I think one of the more overt instances of fraud this election was in Michigan. Here is a timeline of what happened:

                        - Immediately after the election numerous independent observers reported [texasscorecard.com] that suspicious vehicles appeared to be dropping off ballots, and there was bizarre behavior following it, including individuals moving in and out of what should have been secure locations.

                        - The corporate media "debunked" this claim with articles like this [politifact.com]. One of the observed packages was camera gear, so they suggested that everything else that was reported was irrelevant. It was implicitly all just cameras and food. They stated there was zero evidence of ballots. But the *critical* part is that in the process of this they implicitly agreed that any ballots arriving at this time (long after the polls were closed and ballots should have been collected) would most certainly have been invalid. These events were at around 4am.

                        - However, multiple individuals including a former state senator and an active election observer, observed overt ballot drop off just prior to this event - at around 3:30am. And here's the money shot: it was in a location with cameras right on it. Election officials refused to do or say anything. So they reported this event to one of those 'niche sites', 'The Gateway Pundit' (TGP). TGP immediately sought access to the video, they were given months of run-around and assessed fees of thousands of dollars per hour of footage. They finally did get the footage. [thegatewaypundit.com] The video also includes commentary the observers who are more than happy to swear to their testimony.

                        - Watch the video. Seriously. Watch it.

                        - Now the corporate media immediately swapped gears. They now acknowledge [politifact.com] that ballots were dropped off at the observed time, but just deny any wrong-doing ever happened, directly contradicting their earlier "debunkings".

                        - Trump was leading by a wide margin in Michigan. After counting of a new series of ballots was completed at around 6am, Biden suddenly skyrocketed forward earning 96% of all votes in those after hours drop-offs.

                        - The video was immediately censored on all media and social media outlets, and The Gateway Pundit was banned from Twitter, the purge continues, and the media continues to try to convince you that none of this is happening.

                    I don't believe you can see the evidence here and believe the votes tallied there were genuine. And perhaps even more critically, I don't believe you can see this evidence and not realize the media is indeed engaged in a conspiracy to misinform the public. In a world with a free and "real" press, this story would be making front page news on every single outlet. In our world, the media is working as hard as they can to bury and censor this story and any and all people involved in it.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:07PM (2 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:07PM (#1113607)

                      If you think they needed to do anything for Biden to sweep Detroit, you're delusional. The city is something like 80% black and local rappers make songs about shooting Trump. Rich white people don't live in Wayne County.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @09:28PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @09:28PM (#1113825)

                        If you think no black voters voted for Trump, you're delusional. Most of his supporters are staying quiet under threat of violence, but they are there.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @06:30AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @06:30AM (#1113944)

                        It's not about Detroit, but Michigan. The ballots counted at the election center, alone, were far greater than the margin of victory for Biden in Michigan as a whole. The ballots counted at the TCS were far greater than the entire margin of victory for Biden in Michigan.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:21PM (5 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:21PM (#1113649)
                      Fine. That happened. Conceded for the purposes of this discussion. The problem, though, is the media can only say "we're not saying that", not 'other people cant say that'. If that damning footage is there there has not been one thing stopping Trump, his family, his staff, his administration, his friends, his foes, his visitors from Omicron 8, etc from broadcasting it for us all to see. So explain why the Republicans didn't use that... after the vote counting, after the certifcation, any time in december, any time after the riot, any one of the zillions of times they brought it to court, during the impeachment trial...


                      You guys found it so it's not buried too deep. So finish the story. Oh and if you're up for some extra credit, I respectfully request that you also explain why Mitch didn't bring that up in his "trump started the riot but we acquitted anyway" speech. Admittedly that question's a little off-topic but you have to admit it woulda been a nice bullet-point for him to say that there was substance to the protest.
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @09:38PM (2 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @09:38PM (#1113829)

                        So explain why the Republicans didn't use that

                        You may have not been informed of it by the media, but they did.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:27PM (1 child)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:27PM (#1113852)
                          Did they handle it really really really really badly then?
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 19 2021, @12:44AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 19 2021, @12:44AM (#1114676)

                            They've handled it exactly as they wanted and got their result - evidence ignored and Trump removed. You are forgetting that republicans are also part of the establishment and his peacemongering was cutting into both parties profit margins.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @07:21AM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @07:21AM (#1113950)

                        The problem with organized crime not committed by idiots is that it's often near impossible to prove, even when it's right in front of your eyes. It's the reason, for instance, that Capone ended up only being able to be taken down on tax charges. Everybody knew he was the head of a wide ranging criminal syndicate but knowing something and proving it are very different.

                        So in this video. Again, we will assume it is what it almost certainly is - ballot stuffing. Ok, now prove it. Ballots, for the sake of voter secrecy, cannot be traced back to anybody. And any method of validation (signature, etc) will also have long since been disconnected from the ballots for the same reason. All the basic documentation (time stamping, etc) will all be in order. The only thing you have is that Biden would end up winning 96% of a ballot dump that arrived far later than any of the legitimate groups of ballots. That is circumstantial evidence. And what's the recourse you're supposed to ask for now? Using bureaucratic delays the organizers were able to keep the video evidence of this hidden until long after it becomes practically moot.

                        This is why creating systems that make fraud as difficult as possible to carry out are so critical. Because when you have relatively weak systems in place, fraud becomes inevitable. And the DNC has, for many years now, been working to make fraud easier and easier to carry out, and more difficult to detect, in our elections.

                        ---

                        As for Mitch and Trump, if you haven't noticed those two guys hate each other. Mitch made it clear he wanted to impeach Trump. The reason he voted to acquit is because he realized he couldn't get enough votes for a conviction in the Senate and so him voting to impeach, as the minority leader, while the rest of the party voted to acquit would make him look even weaker than he already does. In effect Trump has more influence on Senate Republicans than the nominal Senate leader does. Trump just released a statement [bostonherald.com] on McConnell, which emphasizes the love they share.

                        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @04:32PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @04:32PM (#1114051)
                          Okay. So... Trump himself made 'vote by mail' the enemy amongst his base. For that reason a mail truck full of votes for Biden, even 96%, is not only unsurprising but actually expected... especially during a pandemic. So you're absolutely right that, at best, it's circumstantial, but it's not even alarming enough to count much in that direction. As for the truck itself and when it arrived... you should know that someone jumped the gun on making assumptions about that. Something to keep in mind is that all this stuff happened under high scrutiny.

                          This is why creating systems that make fraud as difficult as possible to carry out are so critical. Because when you have relatively weak systems in place, fraud becomes inevitable. And the DNC has, for many years now, been working to make fraud easier and easier to carry out, and more difficult to detect, in our elections.

                          K. You can see all this fraud but it's invisible to the ... say... election officials, judges, etc. How exactly do you commit this sort of fraud such that you can fool everybody but the sleuths on the net? Wait.. let me rephrase because hypotheticals aren't important... How exactly did the democrats perform this particular fraud such that you can see it and the multitude of courtrooms the Trump Administration visited could not?

                          As for Mitch and Trump, if you haven't noticed those two guys hate each other.

                          I appreciate you to taking the time to answer that, thank you. However I do not feel this sufficiently answers my question. McConnell himself voted not to convict, and he looks like a complete ass because of it... to the point he had to issue a statement defending himself. It would have been heaps easier for him, Trump, AND the GOP itself if actual real evidence of vote tampering was actually out there and presented for the whole country to see. Okay so they don't like each other, how does that motivate them to take the stupid path to justice instead of the gentle one?

                    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:51PM (3 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:51PM (#1113772)

                      An article by the Gateway Pundit claims that a "newly discovered video shows late night deliveries of tens of thousands of illegal ballots 8 hours after deadline." Detroit election officials have confirmed that ballots were delivered to the TCF Center early Wednesday morning but that those ballots met the 8 p.m. deadline for voters to return them and had been verified by the city clerk’s office as legally cast.

                      The center they were counted at was *NOT* the location they were cast or certified at. They go through a rigorous process of verification from the polling or post recieving location by city/county officials then when they are all counted and certified they get shipped to the TCF Center for official counting for the election.

                      What has been used to misconstrue this to people is that they are equating the polling/recieving location times with the counting station times. The latter has a different and I assume much more generous deadline for when ballots are recieved (I think it's a few days to a week), whereas the former has the 8pm date on election day, to both reduce the chances for fraud and to make counting of the election results not drag on forever.

                      So yes ballots were delivered at a time that within the narrative you were being told they were invalid, but only because they were framing it against when the ballots had to be filled out, not when they had to be DELIVERED.

                      I tend to skim over things as well sometimes, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth reading back over evidence people present to you. As they say: 'The Devil is in the details.'

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:30PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:30PM (#1113854)
                        There's a reason these clowns haven't gotten any traction with their claims, they've all been debunked but their news sources don't actually cover that.
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @06:34AM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @06:34AM (#1113945)

                        As the media was quick to inadvertently acknowledge in their first "debunking" attempt, all valid ballots should have long since been delivered to the counting centers. And of course it's not the location they were cast or certified at, because they were never cast or certified. It's called ballot stuffing, and is as old as voting itself goes. You fabricate the ballots and fabricate the certification, integrate them into the large counting pool, and you now have votes counted as valid and even have a "paper trail" to verify it.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @04:35PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @04:35PM (#1114052)
                          The more obvious you paint the crime, the less likely it is that something snuck by the officials/law enforcement/officers of the court/etc.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:50AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:50AM (#1113417)

              Deplorable does not even begin to cover the "patriots" criminals Trump "loved" so much.

              Ted Cruz calls them despicables.

            • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:16AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:16AM (#1113462)

              If BLM had tried this, everyone in the Capitol building would have dropped to their knees and begun gently orally servicing each BLM person in order to appease their new masters. Or, at the BLMer's command, would have eagerly licked their boots.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:58AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:58AM (#1113485)

                This. And don't forget the monetary donations.

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:19AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:19AM (#1113505)

                Projection as usual, creepy seeing you just lay out your innermost desires.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:54AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:54AM (#1113525)

                It's disappointing to see things like this. The political establishment could not care less about BLM. They're simply being used. They work largely to divide America so the next time the polls open up people hate the other side so much that they'll actively vote not in favor of whom they want to win but rather against whom they do NOT want to win. And when the political establishment is comprised of both major political parties, you see people voting to effectively keep the people they hate in power.

                During the BLM riots it was peasants looting, assaulting, robbing, and killing other peasants - people who had nothing to do with their grievances. The Capitol riots instead saw those cheeky peasants actually come up and bruise the eye of the nobility. And that, and only that, is why they needed to be made an example of. Even look back to MLK. The government was *relatively* mild in their handling of him until the Poor People's Campaign. The idea of the Poor People's Campaign was to gather up thousands of people, go to DC, set up a long-term encampment, and demand change. And that is when MLK took a bullet to the head.

            • (Score: 1) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:07AM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:07AM (#1113493) Homepage Journal

              Wow, you have an insanely short memory. Or do you genuinely not let anything that doesn't fit your worldview even reach your long term memory?

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:03AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:03AM (#1113537)

            Atlanta burns first! But, they seemed to have changed their ways since the time of Gen. Sherman. Where is Marjorie Whatshername Greene from?

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:27PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:27PM (#1113694) Journal

            Don't stop burning down cities

            Maybe police should stop killing people for no good reason. Regardless of their color. If several police cannot subdue one person and get them safe and alive to the jail, then they might not be well suited for their job.

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        • (Score: 2, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:04AM (1 child)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:04AM (#1113491) Homepage Journal

          You mean like when Pelosi egged on and still supports to this day the 2018 storming of the capitol? Oh, you only mean when it's not your team doing it? Fuck off, hypocrite.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:34PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:34PM (#1113856)
            > You mean like when Pelosi egged on and still supports to this day the 2018 storming of the capitol?

            Apparently memes can convince people that apples and oranges are the same.
      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:55AM (#1113383)

        I'd say it's probably more of a corporate douchebags trying to cash in on poorly-informed fools without actually sharing criminal liability with them.

        ftfy.

    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:35AM (2 children)

      by looorg (578) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:35AM (#1113367)

      How would this be different then Facebook or Twitter or (insert name here)? Are the 3-letter agencies just to lazy to keep separate databases anymore or have they forgot how to draw wonderful Venn-diagrams? Wouldn't they want them all in one place so the sparks will fly a bit more then keeping them apart. After all if they are kept apart they might all just calm the fuck down. Which in turn doesn't bring in extra funding, ie it's bad for their kind of business.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:47AM (1 child)

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:47AM (#1113373) Journal
        Optimized list of of candidates to investigate.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:35AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:35AM (#1113409)

          The most efficient sorting is the one you don't have to do yourself.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by khallow on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:52AM (5 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:52AM (#1113378) Journal

      Are all these people stupid?

      Stupid about what? Due process is still a thing. Surveillance of people who merely post on Parler is still very illegal. If one posts public threats, incitements, plans to commit crimes, etc on a public platform, then that's stupid no matter what platform you use. If a alphabet soup agency is siphoning private US-based communication traffic without probably cause, then that's something that can poison an investigation.

      In the meantime, Parler apparently isn't cutting people off for PC reasons.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:53AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:53AM (#1113380)

        What is your expectation of privacy posting information on a publicly accessible board? Dumb. Ass.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:59AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @12:59AM (#1113385) Journal

          What is your expectation of privacy posting information on a publicly accessible board?

          Sounds like you should read posts before replying to them.

          If one posts public threats, incitements, plans to commit crimes, etc on a public platform, then that's stupid no matter what platform you use. If a alphabet soup agency is siphoning private US-based communication traffic without probably cause

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:31PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:31PM (#1113695) Journal

          What is your expectation of privacy posting information on a publicly accessible board? Dumb. Ass.

          If you click that [x] Post Anonymously checkbox, then you're safe, anonymous, and nobody can read your message except the person or persons who you intended the reply to be for.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:07AM (#1113422)

        Surveillance of people who merely post on Parler is still very illegal.

        Oh, my, khallow did not read the Terms of Use! Not the first time he has made such a mistake. Of course it is legal. Informer Consent, as in snitches.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:58PM (#1113624)

        Due process is still a thing. Surveillance of people who merely post on Parler is still very illegal.

        You still don't get it, huh? The federal informants inside the Oath Keepers organized a couple of riots through Facebook, so the feds shut down Parler because Republicans use it.

        It's like how the shooter posted his manifesto on Facebook so the feds reposted it to 8chan where every single user in the thread told them to fuck off with that shit, and then the feds used that post to justify shutting down 8chan.

        Or how the federal informants inside the Bundy militia organized the occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge so that they could claim that the Bundys are dangerous and right-wing, and the feds hyped up this danger so much that a different group of feds shot their own agent inside the Bundys when he surrendered and stepped out of the car to negotiate with them. That's a real case of "hands up, don't shoot".

        Or look into Patcon where the feds throughout the 1990s infiltrated, disrupted, and shut down every legal militia movement in the United States, all of which were run by ex-soldiers and cops having fun on the weekend, because there had been one (1) white supremacist gang which called itself a "militia" that was rounded up and put in jail by 1988. And talking about Patcon would get you killed. By the feds.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:22AM (#1113398)

      No, that's Fakebook. [disrn.com]

    • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:39AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:39AM (#1113439)

      You're subhuman and your brain has bugs in it which you PROVED losing so badly to APK publicly to your shame you had to avoid answering his points directly https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37033&page=1&cid=985463#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] and https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?cid=1029695&sid=38763 [soylentnews.org] which you always do, avoid facts on tons of levels as he shot you to pieces in due to your glaring mistakes technically. Especially with nothing to show for yourself whereas APK your competition has projects galore to his name and credit in technical competition wins, publications, commercially sold code to HIS name, and work others even on /. like and use along with 100's of 1,000's worldwide for decades. Refresh our minds, but I thought you were leaving this site too? How many times will we hear that LIE from you, abomination of desolation freak you are? Can't keep your word either I see. You are not a real woman loon. Just a dyke who likes to bully people like APK who actually do useful things. Delusional moron you are, now "self-praising" yourself with no proof of your utter lies and bullshit and everyone sees you avoid that link above and any points it brings up about your deranged whacko brain malfunctioning as usual.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:21PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:21PM (#1113631) Journal
        How do you so know? Repeatedly spamming the same retarded insults means nothing. She could have answered your bullshit questions elsewhere. Glancing at the actual posts, I see Azuma already gave you more of an answer there than you deserved, you gormless worm.
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 17 2021, @12:44AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 17 2021, @12:44AM (#1113883) Journal

        I'm already taken, but thanks for the attention :) Rot in hell, you pathetic waste of oxygen.

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    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:55AM (1 child)

      by darkfeline (1030) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:55AM (#1113549) Homepage

      It's only a honeypot because we live in a cultural climate where certain opinions and thoughts are persecuted. Parler is otherwise as much a honeypot as a public square, in that the public can hear you say whatever you say publicly.

      If you're talking about the misinformation about collecting social security numbers and driver licenses, Parler requests them for verified accounts the same way Twitter requests them for verified accounts. If you have a verified account, then Parler is as much a "honeypot" as Twitter.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 17 2021, @01:18AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 17 2021, @01:18AM (#1113890) Journal

        Yeah, how dare people give opinions like "we should storm the Capitol and kill the VP" the side-eye, am I right? Dumbass. You can have the opinion, just fucking keep it to yourself.

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    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday February 16 2021, @06:26PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @06:26PM (#1113716) Journal

      Hopefully they read their service agreement this time!

      This is also good from a civil liberty perspective. The wackadoos have freedom of assembly and speech just like the rest of us. If it ever does actually become impossible for them to publish websites then I would have a serious problem with it. (lucky for us that is not the case despite said wackadoos claiming otherwise on the very websites they claim can't exist)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:31AM (#1113403)

    This is some interesting timing, as it happened the day before Parler is required to file their amended complaint against Amazon. This could have interesting implications for their legal case and Amazon's defense thereof.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:43AM (#1113518)

      Well what do you know. They also got a new lawyer on the 13th and that lawyer needs more time. Right at the deadline, Parler just asked for permission to file an amended complaint no later than March 2, 2021. Such unforeseeable changes beyond their control that totally deserve yet another change of the rules that everyone else has to follow just for them.

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by mendax on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:27AM (5 children)

    by mendax (2840) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @02:27AM (#1113434)

    So Parler is up and running again. That is a pity. May the evil that lurks in that mud hatch out. No doubt something nasty will come of this event.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by NateMich on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:02AM (4 children)

      by NateMich (6662) on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:02AM (#1113457)

      They are evil for being free speech?

      The left are being good guys when they silence them?

      That's a strange way of looking at things.

      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:45AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:45AM (#1113475)

        "the left"?

        lol you wackjobs and your persecution complex

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:09AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:09AM (#1113496)

        They see it that it that way. Their focus is on fascism which is typically right wing, but it's a too tight of a focus. The wider picture demonstrates that authoritarianism of any kind, left or right, is what we must fear and fight. As an example, the communists have over 100,000,000 dead bodies to account for. Pointing this out isn't to excuse right wing authoritarianism, it's just to point out that left wing authoritarianism is no picnic either. Somehow though, the regressive left can't comprehend that evil is evil, left _and_ right. Antifa's answer is to punch nazis and suck Stalin's dick -- the correct answer is to punch nazis AND stalins.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:30AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:30AM (#1113511)

          The correct answer is not to punch anybody. You can keep your street violence.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:52AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:52AM (#1113555)

          A peer answer almost got the right answer. The right answer is that people are free to say absolutely whatever they want to anybody. But when somebody punches anybody, they get brutally shut down by everybody. The problem is people are always complicit towards violence when they think it supports their ideology.

  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:51AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @03:51AM (#1113453)

    There's a better free speech platform out there than Parler. Parler was compromised from the start. It didn't guarantee free speech, and as someone else said on this board was created by "conservatives" to harvest the conservatives for their info. Pay no mind to it.

    • (Score: 1) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:12AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:12AM (#1113500) Homepage Journal

      Maybe but it sure as shit ain't Gab. They've got even more ass-covering lawyers than Parler, which don't bode well for their position on the ideology/fear axis.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:12AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:12AM (#1113501)

      Parler also requires a phone number. Considering how horrific the left is becoming, retaining pseudonymity is pretty important. They've taken to hate with a religious fervor that would impress inquisitors.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:13AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @07:13AM (#1113540)

        But we've already tracked you, AC, from this single post on an insignificant website. You think you can run? You think you can hide? You think your parents and siblings are not going to ID you to the Feds? Dream on, neo-nazi boy! We are coming for you, and we already know where you are. If I were you, trash your phone, burn all credit cards, change your hair color, and never, ever, post on SoylentNews again. It is just too dangerous.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @06:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @06:11AM (#1113528)

      Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

      Right now the problem with sites like Twitter and Facebook is not just that they censor, but rather that they censor and enforce their rules in an arbitrary, biased, and political fashion - all why aiming to push a desired narrative. If they want to get rid of the far right types. Sure, that's their right - but the rationale and justification they're using to do so would equally apply to the far left, BLM, and other types on their site as well. Let alone their former CEO who said [thefederalist.com], "Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I'll happily provide video commentary." Classy guy, that one. Pun intended.

      I value free speech because a lot of my opinions are things that are not exactly pro-establishment, and so tend to be first on the chopping block for censorship. At the same time though I'm also well aware that unlimited free speech, as a selling point in and of itself, also tends to attract some pretty shitty people. I saw Voat, in its early days, go from a nice multi-political little site for interesting and civil discourse to a place overrun with derping idiots expelled from Reddit. Even this site would have the same problem I suspect. Imagine of the thousands of mental midgets from /r/niggers ended up all running over here. You either accept the entire place going to shit, or you have to constrain what speech is allowed. Atko, the founder of Voat, beat the Kobayashi Maru by simply leaving the site.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:15AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:15AM (#1113461)

    Now we can safely discuss the massive election fraud that took place in November. In fact, here's a video [pornzog.com] of ballots being tampered with.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @04:48AM (#1113477)

      Wow, who knew it was the Republicans comitting all the fraud? Good find.

    • (Score: 1) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:14AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday February 16 2021, @05:14AM (#1113502) Homepage Journal

      I can't decide if I should mod you Informative for pointing out a porn tube site I wasn't aware of or Troll for trying to sucker the pearl-clutchers into being offended.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:55AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @10:55AM (#1113581)

    Better to have all the nutjobs contained in one platform shouting their extremist fears at each other.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:44PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @01:44PM (#1113621)

      I couldn't agree more! (=Twitter)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @11:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @11:54AM (#1113997)

        I'm not disagreeing in principle, but twitter is too public for any kind of extremist nutjob, wether they are left, right, wrong, up, down, east, west or any other kind of extremists.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:17PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:17PM (#1113796)

    Soylent often tags conservative posts with "Troll". It does not appear to me to be an site open for all to express their views.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:25PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2021, @08:25PM (#1113800)

      you've got to be kidding

      i stopped reading for months because this site is too conservative--or the regular loud mouths are with the occasional liberal guy acting as a reason to be treated as an idiot.

      the thing is--i didn't really want to come here for politics. i came here to find a replacement for the IT stuff and IT crowds that slashdot lost due to their approach to people as products.

      that is not a problem here, but the politics are and that's not likely to change.

      so if you're worried about posts you view as conservative being tagged as "troll", then maybe the site has changed -- and maybe nothing is truly free of politics, and that there are not enough smart types to write about whatever to draw attention away from the politics the lower rungs endlessly browbeat about.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @12:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2021, @12:16AM (#1113874)

        I agree with the grandparent post.
        Conservative posts are frequently (more often than not) marked "Troll." The moderation system was never intended to enforce an orthodoxy of political opinion. Someone with a different political view is not a "Troll." The dumbing down of our culture spreads from other censorious-to-conservatives social media to this site. Cancel culture is for dicks who can't defend their own arguments. Best solution in moderation: just let the post stand unmoderated if you don't like it. Bump it up if you really like it.

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