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posted by martyb on Monday March 29 2021, @12:25AM   Printer-friendly
from the finally-implementing-Adam-Selene dept.

[Ed. note: As much as this goes against the norm here, I strongly encourage folk to read the entire linked article. We continue to witness dramatic advances in computer capabilities. Just consider what we already have today: AMD's Epyc and Threadripper processors, Apple Silicon (of which the M1 processor is only a taste), multi-terabyte DDR6 memories, huge farms of SSD storage all help leverage the tremendous capabilities of the latest ray-tracing video cards. Consider this a PSA (Public Service Announcement): You've Been Warned.-martyb)

FBI Warns Imminent Deepfake Attacks "Almost Certain" - The Debrief:

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has issued a unique Private Industry Notification (PIN) on deepfakes, warning companies that "malicious actors almost certainly will leverage synthetic content for cyber and foreign influence operations in the next 12-18 months."

[...] Creating or manipulating images and videos to depict events that never actually happened is hardly new. However, advances in machine learning and artificial intelligence have allowed for the creation of compelling and nearly indistinguishable fake videos and images.

Legacy photo editing software uses various graphic editing techniques to alter, change, or enhance images. Photo editing software such as PhotoShop can manipulate pictures to include details or even people that weren't originally in a photo. However, creating convincing false images is highly-dependent on a user's skill in using the editing software.

In contrast, deepfakes use machine learning, and a type of neural network called an autoencoder. An encoder reduces an image to a lower-dimensional latent space, allowing for a decoder to reconstruct an image from the latent representation.

Because the latent or original image contains critical features, such as a person's facial features and body posture, this allows for deepfakes to be decoded with a machine learning model trained for a specific target. Ultimately, the result is a persuasive and highly detailed superimposed representation of the original video or image's underlying facial or body features.

The most often used type of deepfake processing attaches a machine learning generative adversarial network (GAN) to a decoder. The GAN trains a generator and discriminator in an adversarial relationship, resulting in extraordinarily compelling images that virtually mimic reality.

[...] To guard against deepfakes, the FBI encourages using the: Stop, Investigate the source, Find trusted coverage, and Trace the original content when consuming information online, or "SIFT" methodology.

The PIN also provides some tips on visual clues to identify deepfakes, "such as distortions, warping, or inconsistencies in images and video." The FBI gives some examples of where to look for these visual clues including, "consistent eye spacing and placement, noticeable glitches in head and torso movements, as well as syncing issues between face and lip movement, and any associated audio."

The FBI concludes the recent PIN warning by encouraging anyone who wants to report suspicious or criminal cyber activity to contact the FBI by phone at (855) 292-3937 or by e-mail at CyWatch@fbi.gov.


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A Spanish youth court has sentenced 15 minors to one year of probation after spreading AI-generated nude images of female classmates in two WhatsApp groups.

The minors were charged with 20 counts of creating child sex abuse images and 20 counts of offenses against their victims' moral integrity.

[...] Many of the victims were too ashamed to speak up when the inappropriate fake images began spreading last year. Prior to the sentencing, a mother of one of the victims told The Guardian that girls like her daughter "were completely terrified and had tremendous anxiety attacks because they were suffering this in silence."

[...]   Teens using AI to sexualize and harass classmates has become an alarming global trend. Police have probed disturbing cases in both high schools and middle schools in the US, and earlier this year, the European Union proposed expanding its definition of child sex abuse to more effectively "prosecute the production and dissemination of deepfakes and AI-generated material." Last year, US President Joe Biden issued an executive order urging lawmakers to pass more protections.

[...] In an op-ed for The Guardian today, journalist Lucia Osborne-Crowley advocated for laws restricting sites used to both generate and surface deepfake pornography, including regulating this harmful content when it appears on social media sites and search engines.

[...] An FAQ said that "WhatsApp has zero tolerance for child sexual exploitation and abuse, and we ban users when we become aware they are sharing content that exploits or endangers children," but it does not mention AI.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:31AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:31AM (#1130516)

    Most of you seem to believe in a President Sleepy Joe!

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:08AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:08AM (#1130535)

      Obvious deepfake... there was a noticeable glitch in that video of him walking up the airplane stairs.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:48AM (#1130555)

        Déjà vu Neo?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MIRV888 on Monday March 29 2021, @04:26AM (3 children)

      by MIRV888 (11376) on Monday March 29 2021, @04:26AM (#1130605)

      0/10
      Step up your game. We're dealing with a Cheeto assisted public health crisis. I would have taken Sleepy Joe any day over the previous year.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 29 2021, @02:28PM (1 child)

        by HiThere (866) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:28PM (#1130754) Journal

        I would have taken a doorknob over the prior office holder. "Better king log than king stork."

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:47PM (#1130885)

          Better tree stump than donny trump.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:52PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:52PM (#1130988)

        Before the epidemic became a pandemic, it was thought that it started without any human to human spreading at first. Officials were monitoring for "community spread." However, there is no convincing evidence that there was anything other than community spread. Meaning, there was human to human transmission from the start. Lets say that someone was doing "gain of function" research in a lab, and it leaked or was let out with plausible deniability, when would that have happened? Late October 2019? About the time of this tweet: https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1187829299207954437?lang=en [twitter.com] That makes Nancy Pelosi's invitation to crowd after Trump's travel ban look like mass murder. Add this to Anthony Fauci's recommendation against the travel ban and against the early use of masks. However, I do not know these people's intentions. They could just be sellouts acting on behalf of other interests. Aside from sabotaging the economy, c19 manufactured popularity for H.R.1 in the 116th (2019-2020) and H.R.1 in the 117th (2021-2022) congress, which violates the safeguards in the constitution by allowing private companies to increase turnout in select majority democrat areas, while neglecting other areas, among many other things. Even though this was not legal for the 2020 election, the authority of state legislators was violated anyway.

        When this started, lab testing was only setup for university and government labs. Trump added commercial labs to the mix. It was impossible to scale without their testing capacity. When there were not enough ventilators, Trump made sure that there were ventilators in record time. When Trump observed that UV killed the virus, the media made bleach jokes instead of talking about endotracheal application of ultraviolet. When the vaccine development was ahead of schedule, vaccine companies waited until after the election to announce it. When masks were mandated, there were no building code adjustments to reimplement what we learned from the pandemic 100 years ago, which was that heating systems should be sized to heat with the windows partly open so that contaminated air can exhaust outside. Of course, 100 years ago, the pharmaceutical industry was not on the verge of commercializing mRNA technology.

        Democrats are masters of psychological projection, always projecting their crimes onto their opponents.

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37AM (#1130519)

    Don't fall for fake news.

    We are from the government and we are here to help you.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday March 29 2021, @04:52AM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday March 29 2021, @04:52AM (#1130614) Homepage

      They could just be testing the efficacy of their own deepfake algorithms. "Please, call us if our videos aren't convincing enough, and tell us exactly why!" But all the processing power in the world will fail to convince the public that Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin do, in fact, gangbang goats.

      Though if this ruse is damage control, it's probably just to head off some *cough* "deepfakes," of Hunter Biden with underage prostitutes.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 29 2021, @02:30PM

        by HiThere (866) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:30PM (#1130755) Journal

        What, you think they *don't* gang-bang goats?

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  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Monday March 29 2021, @12:57AM (26 children)

    by crafoo (6639) on Monday March 29 2021, @12:57AM (#1130528)

    We are living in the future! This is so awesome. This future is amazing and wonderful.

    Amusing they are concerned about businesses falling for attacks based around this technology. Managers regularly still fall for e-mail phishing and social hacking attacks. They have no chance against this. It's going to be chaos and carnage.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:02AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:02AM (#1130562)
      Easy to just not use video. Completely remove that attack surface.
      • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday March 29 2021, @06:00AM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday March 29 2021, @06:00AM (#1130633) Homepage

        Are you suggesting images, or other ways to manipulate? If the glowniggers have the ability to control things like emails and perceived internet traffic in real time, imagine what confusion they could accomplish spoofing phone calls -- not just the phone numbers -- the voices and mannerisms of people you know. They have plenty of storage space and expertise to accomplish this.

        Furthermore, anybody who's worked with military technology knows that what people call "cutting edge" today was realized 30 years ago.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:59AM (#1130687)

          Obviously I've not seen it, but if hierarchical closed-door military labs were good at creative work then why aren't the shitholes of the world dominating the technology field?

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Monday March 29 2021, @02:03AM (1 child)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:03AM (#1130563)

      I don't know which is more disappointing: the fact that people are going to fall for this, or the fact that the FBI thinks their publishing of a warning is going to make a difference?

      Seriously folks, how long before we see Dark Mirror S1 Ep1 reproduced with convincing imagery and voice prints of actual world leaders?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:57AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:57AM (#1130599)

        If only they had a color-coded system for telling us how anxious to be about abstract threats.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by PartTimeZombie on Monday March 29 2021, @02:36AM (2 children)

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:36AM (#1130578)

      I had a manager who was so keen on seeing Anna Kournikova without her blouse on that he fell for that scam twice in the same week.

      He got really upset when we all laughed at him too.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:34AM (17 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:34AM (#1130625)

      I'd agree, but I'm just not sure if that future is Cyberpunk or just plain old 1984. If this warning is genuine, then it's really quite interesting. But the cynical interpretation is a priming of society for footage that paints the government in a bad light to be dismissed, probably as 'Russian propaganda', even when its completely real.

      User video increasingly frequently contradicts official narratives of events. For instance this [twitter.com] video is from the January 6th protest/riots, showing people "breaching" the capitol. For those who'd prefer not click on Twitter, it shows the doors being opened and a stream of protesters being let into the capitol and directed where to go by a large number of uniformed capitol police. The protesters themselves were paranoid with one guy at 16 seconds into the video stating, "They're going to lock us in." One officer says something that's not clear but seems to say "I disagree with you, but respect you."

      That video has been repeatedly removed from YouTube and it's quite surprising that it remains available on Twitter. In the age of increasing censorship what's to stop the powers that be from simply claiming any video is fake and then censoring everybody that claims otherwise? After all, only a tiny handful of people would have had first person knowledge of the events and so they could easily be forced out into the realm of independent publishing or non-corporate sites, which can again just all be dismissed as 'Russian propaganda.'

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37PM (15 children)

        by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37PM (#1130698)

        There are more than enough "user video" of the January 6th insurrectionists being violent to demonstrate that what actually happened. Nobody faked Trumps loyal minions beating police with a flag, smearing shit on the walls, stealing from the senate, or trampling their own to death.

        The things that going to stop authorities from claiming, say, that the January 6th insurrection didn't happen, is that deep fakes simply can't produce video from nothing. If somebody tried to fake Trumps attempted coupe they'd need hundreds of actors and the compliance of every single congress critter and senator.

        When the police are accused of assaulting or murdering someone, probably the most frequent case of official answer vs video evidence, the victim remains dead or injured afterword. The police claiming that the body cam video is a deep fake doesn't bring their victim back to life. The physical evidence remains.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Monday March 29 2021, @02:37PM (1 child)

          by HiThere (866) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:37PM (#1130759) Journal

          Are you sure? If not this year, what about next year?

          This *is* coming. It's not clear who will do it first, or what their goals will be, but it *is* clear that they won't be the last, even if they are quickly caught. The only question is "How quickly will it get cheap enough to do routinely?".

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Tork on Monday March 29 2021, @03:07PM

            by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 29 2021, @03:07PM (#1130771) Journal

            The only question is "How quickly will it get cheap enough to do routinely?".

            If you lead by example and denounce unwanted extremism the question becomes "is that all they got?"

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:50PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:50PM (#1130783)

          And if you look at last years BLM and other riots, there was similarly endless footage of participants engaging in rioting and violence. Indeed dozens of people were killed in these riots. And now imagine if YouTube and the media not only focused exclusively on the rioting aspect of the protests, but also grossly exaggerated what happened, outright fabricated details to make them even more heinous than they already wore, and also worked to remove any narrative to the contrary from social media. And that is exactly what is happening over January 6th. What you're seeing is likely the first overt state driven propaganda campaign. Well certainly at least in modern times. I expect our Red Scares may have had similar propaganda efforts, but they were more rudimentary for want of technology.

          • (Score: 2) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @05:21PM (2 children)

            by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @05:21PM (#1130841)

            The people [texastribune.org] killed [theguardian.com] at BLM protests were protesters [courier-journal.com] and the fact that Republicans feel safe committing acts of terrorism against the BLM movement does nothing to undercut the virtue of those marching for justice.

            When BLM protesters find a lone cop in their midsts they put their own bodies on the line to protect the officer [foxnews.com]. When MAGA insurrectionists manage to get a police officer by himself they beat him with the flag [msn.com]!

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:52PM (1 child)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:52PM (#1130860)

              Lol, okay so you are genuinely trolling.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @07:48AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @07:48AM (#1131111)

                Hey dipshit read up on reality, MAGA fucks are fascist liars.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @09:36PM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @09:36PM (#1130926)

          Yes, user video includes John Earle Sullivan (Insurgence USA founder), which contradict your simple narrative. There was ample warning about January 6th, and Democrats ignored it with the "bad optics" excuse. After the ballots stored under skirted tables (illegal in Georgia) and covering windows with cardboard to keep observers from observing, the demand for transparency should have been expected. They would have loved to have had more guards, but shutting down discussion of the dueling electors situation was more important. Strange how a parliamentarian had to do what the constitution demands the V.P. to do. You do not need fake video recordings when providing the staging, incentives, and lies (narrative) will do. In fact, doing this is far superior than faking a recording. To study anthropology is to have the ability to control humans.

          U.S. Capitol Police said a total of 164 people were arrested during the protests for "crowding, obstructing, or incommoding" during the Kavanaugh confirmation. Strange how that was not called an insurrection. The media keeps using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.

          • (Score: 2) by helel on Tuesday March 30 2021, @12:06AM (7 children)

            by helel (2949) on Tuesday March 30 2021, @12:06AM (#1130994)

            Yes, I'm all too familiar with the lies Trump used to rile up his mob. You don't need to repeat them here.

            On December 12 Enrique Tarrio, Proud Boy leader, was invited to the White House before the MAGA rally that day. We don't know who he met with but clearly it was somebody in the presidents employ.

            The "QAnan Shaman" Jacob Chansley was reported to police on December 14 for loitering around the Senate building with his iconic spear. Police said that "higher ups had allowed him to be there."

            On December 19 Trump asked his military advisers if he could impose martial law and rerun the election.

            Phone records show calls between various Proud Boys, who ended up breaching the capitol, and Trumps White House aides.

            Normally before any large rally in DC the DC National Guard is set on standby incase things go south. On January 5 they were specifically ordered not to stand by on January 6 and that they could not deploy without approval form Trumps Secretary of Defense, Christopher Miller, who Trump had just installed following the firing of Mark Esper in November.

            Republican representatives have been accused of giving tours of the Capitol Building to individuals who would breach the building the next day. The results of the investigation into these claims have not been made public.

            While Trump gave his speech in front of the White House members of the Proud Boys were waiting outside the Capitol Building. These people, one of whom met with somebody inside the White House and others of whom had been called by Trumps aides days before, were NOT at Trumps Stop the Steal rally. Instead they were well armed and waiting by the Capitol Building.

            Bombs were placed outside the Democratic and Republican national committees. These were reported and draw police away from the Capitol less than an hour before the attack.
            Trump had his rally where he told his supporters to go to the Capitol Building, to "fight like hell," to make congress ignore the electoral votes from blue states. His words here don't really matter much tho, the point was to rile up the useful idiots and send them into the Capitol Building.

            When the crowd from Trumps rally got to the capitol building they and the waiting Proud Boys attacked the police line, shoving them aside and assaulting them with pepper spray and fire extinguishers.

            The Proud Boys quickly moved through the building strait to the offices of prominent Democrats but didn't manage to catch any. CCTV footage has revealed that some representatives only escaped by seconds.

            Over a timeframe of hours rioters shit in the halls of congress, stole computers and furniture, injured dozens of police, called for the murder of multiple Democrat representatives and Vice President Mike Pence. While this was happening Trump and/or his recently appointed Secretary of Defense refused requests for the National Guard SIX times. Pence, who doesn't even technically have the authority, finally convinced Mr Miller to deploy the guard.

            And that is why the attack on January 6th is an attempt at insurrection and a bunch of hippies chanting "Cancel Kavanaugh" outside the Supreme Court isn't.

            • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @02:33AM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @02:33AM (#1131038)

              I do not need to repeat day 4 in the Trump impeachment trial to address your ample amount of distractions. Or the videos of federal government buildings being set on fire. There were democrat mobs interrupting official acts who were not content to protest outside. Trying paint this is something that only one side does is futile. If there is a difference, it is that while the left uses more under informed, emotionally manipulated people, the right is more effective. The FBI had to come up with a new category to classify the majority of the people who entered the building on January 6th: Small business owners. People smart enough to understand that the election numbers do not reflect actual people voting and had something to loose from the result.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @05:28PM (5 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @05:28PM (#1131296)

                lol the ppl who mobbed the capitol are so NOT the 'more informed', they never had evidence to back up ANY of the actions they took. oh and spare us the "both sides were equally bad" bullshit, only one side tried the "it was u guys in disguise!" excuse.

                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @02:01AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @02:01AM (#1131485)

                  Ah, but the other side spent the entire summer last year 'trying it' -- they just were not trying it in the US Capitol. They were trying it in Portland, and other places a long ways away from the US Capitol.

                  But do not for a moment think "the other side" wasn't doing the same thing. They spent six months doing the same thing, night after night. But since it happened to "other peoples businesses" the US Justice Department simply was not terribly interested in all those insurrections that happened night after night all summer long.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @01:11PM (3 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @01:11PM (#1131578)

                  Read above in this very thread that somebody implied the murders and violence associated with the BLM riots were caused by Trump guys.

                  And there is plentiful evidence of election irregularities. See the countless state congressional hearings for great stuff. The cases were invariably thrown out on technical issues, such as a supposed lack of standing, rather than on the merits of the case. Indeed, the Supreme Court probably did more to divide this nation than any other action by refusing to allow the case to be heard before them. On the other hand, if they had heard the case - it's very possible it could have triggered Civil War, one way or the other, so I suppose it depends on what you value more.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @02:16PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 31 2021, @02:16PM (#1131608)
                    There is ZERO evidence.
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01 2021, @02:03AM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01 2021, @02:03AM (#1131945)

                      Tables with skirts on them are illegal in Georgia. We have video of ballots being stored under a table with a skirt. No legit election permits this. Want another?

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01 2021, @02:40AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01 2021, @02:40AM (#1131956)
                        Heh. And you don't see how eleventy court cases failed to proceed with that dizzying accusation, right?
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:55PM (#1130768)

        If your group has bad actors in it, why not just say: "you guys don't represent us" instead of "Oh..ermm..umm.. it wasn't us, and we're really the vic-tums!!" ..? Doesn't this desperate hope that you can wordsmith your way out of the reputation others have earned for you take up just a little too much of your day?

  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:06AM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:06AM (#1130532)

    I just finished reviewing my porn collection and didn't notice any glitches in head and torso movements. I'll check again in a few hours.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:21AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:21AM (#1130543)

      Hehehe, a few hours? I can do it again right away, maybe three times in a row.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:50AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:50AM (#1130556)

        Alright you sex addict, don't be shooting up any Asian houses of ill repute!

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:01AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:01AM (#1130560)

          Dude, this shit against Asians in America ain't no funny joke.

          I mean, there are racists and there are racists.

          What kinda degenerate scumbags, racist or no, go after grandmas in their 70s because her race/ethnicity?

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday March 29 2021, @02:08AM (2 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 29 2021, @02:08AM (#1130568) Journal

            Honest answer? Get a bunch of old people together somewhere, and it's hard to tell who's who. I sat in a cafe in N. Carolina, listening to a pair of old folk bantering. I commented to the waitress about them after they left, and we talked about them for a few seconds. Turns out one old gray person was a black man, the other old gray person was a caucasian female. You couldn't tell, just to look at them.

            So, Ghetto Boy is out looking for an Asian who is old enough for him to safely assault - how does he know who the Asian is?

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:59AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:59AM (#1130601)

              They all look alike, classic!

            • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Monday March 29 2021, @09:58PM

              by Gaaark (41) on Monday March 29 2021, @09:58PM (#1130934) Journal

              how does he know who the Asian is?

              When i lived in Toronto, I'd watch the GORGEOUS young asian girls walk by on the street next to their PRUNY grandmothers: to answer your question, the old asian is the one who looks like a wrinkled wrinkle suffering from the wrinkles! :)

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          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @10:50AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @10:50AM (#1130675)

            Dude, you can find a few of any given type of criminal you want committing crime at any time in a country with 300 million people. You can't argue away crazy or stupid, and you sure as hell can't legislate it away.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:37PM (#1130697)

              >> you sure as hell can't legislate it away.

              That's why you need to use executive orders to build walls. #MAGA

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:05AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:05AM (#1130565)

        Hehehe, a few hours? I can do it again right away, maybe three times in a row.

        I just have my videos on an infinite loop. Just to be sure.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:02AM (#1130561)

      > I just finished reviewing my porn collection
      Not much of a collection if you can review it all that quickly...just say'n.

    • (Score: 4, Touché) by tangomargarine on Monday March 29 2021, @03:50AM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Monday March 29 2021, @03:50AM (#1130598)

      I just finished reviewing my porn collection

      I'll check again in a few hours.

      You call porn you can review in only "a few hours" a "collection"?

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:15AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:15AM (#1130537)
    So I can deepfake my video presence at multiple jobs at once, with the fakes making the appropriate listening motions, then jump in when called upon. How long before a home AI can do all that for me and “work” for 5 paycheques every week?

    The future - when my deepfake talks to my boss’s deepfake and everyone is happy.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Monday March 29 2021, @02:05AM (2 children)

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:05AM (#1130566)

      How long before a home AI can do all that for me and “work” for 5 paycheques every week?

      That's when we all get the UBI that Elon has been musing about "something like that, I don't know what else one would do?" Or... we get processed into Soylent Green so the ruling class can have more fertilizer for their gardens.

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Kell on Monday March 29 2021, @02:31AM

        by Kell (292) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:31AM (#1130575)

        I really see these as the two likely outcomes; the persistence of the middle class into the far future seems unlikely to me. I strongly expect that robotics technology will largely lead to elimination of the non-wealthy capital owners in the medium term, with a thin smear of technocrats and specialised service people. There is room on the ark for engineers, cooks and whores, but not for lower middle managers and telephone sanitisers.

        --
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:48AM (#1130596)

        because elon musk is the first person to think of universal basic income

        you guys and your hate-boners for elon. he's a public face for the company, of course he's a twat

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:08AM (#1130567)

      "Experts" have been predicting for the last few years that my job as a research physicist will be replaced by AI and machine learning any day now. I bet this won't happen until well after I retire, if ever.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 29 2021, @01:18AM (1 child)

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday March 29 2021, @01:18AM (#1130542) Journal

    Well, no. Maybe GDDR6 memories if a mining firm pivots to become a deepfake firm.

    Has anyone used multiple GPUs to make a single deepfake?

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    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:43AM (#1130552)

      "Has anyone used multiple GPUs to make a single deepfake?"

      That'd be like, gang-bang deepfake, right?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:50AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @01:50AM (#1130557)

    Nobody needs more than 6 gigs.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 29 2021, @02:26AM (3 children)

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday March 29 2021, @02:26AM (#1130573) Journal
      I realize that's probably a joke about high capacity magazines.

      Some games already need 12 GB [videocardz.com]. It doesn't help that the 2080 Ti had 11 GB and Nvidia only went to 10 GB with the 3080. Even some older games can use more than 8 GB.

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      • (Score: 3, Touché) by tangomargarine on Monday March 29 2021, @03:46AM (2 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Monday March 29 2021, @03:46AM (#1130594)

        a joke about high capacity magazines.

        The Bill Gates "nobody should need more than 640k" joke is *how* many decades old now?

        And how long have you been on SD/SN?

        Don't make me get out the hot grits.

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        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday March 29 2021, @04:18AM (1 child)

          by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Monday March 29 2021, @04:18AM (#1130603) Journal

          One joke, two jokes, I'll ignore them all.

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          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:49AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:49AM (#1130613)

            640 jokes should be enough for anyone.

    • (Score: 2) by MIRV888 on Monday March 29 2021, @04:28AM

      by MIRV888 (11376) on Monday March 29 2021, @04:28AM (#1130607)

      You are missing the potential of porn of unprecedented quality.
      Mmmmm...... DDR6 kink.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by PinkyGigglebrain on Monday March 29 2021, @06:17AM (30 children)

    by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Monday March 29 2021, @06:17AM (#1130637)

    I have to wonder if some very embarrassing/criminal, and very REAL, photos involving some very important/powerful people are about to hit the news outlets and this announcement is meant to provide plausible deniability for the parties involved.

    Also expect some other obvious deepfakes to show up soon too, just to stir up dirt and muddy the waters as much as possible.

    /Conspiricy mode
    tinfoil hat returned to storage.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @09:21AM (27 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @09:21AM (#1130671)

      The thing that increasingly annoys me about society is that I expect your "tin-foil hat scenario" is probably more probable than the FBI actually trying to genuinely create a better and more informed society. It just seems like if you interpret every sort of event with major political ramifications in the worst possible way (including outright fabrication), then you tend to be right far more often than not. And that is so incredibly annoying. It seems this all started with Iraq. Since we invaded them on completely fabricated evidence it just seems like the government has kind of decided to toss any remaining notion of ethics or integrity out the window.

      Of course maybe it could be that Iraq was also my political 'awakening'. The CIA selling weapons to a trade embargoed country, to fund rebels in another country (who congress had overtly chosen to not support), the FBI sending fake letters to MLK to try to push him towards suicide, the completely absurd Operation Northwoods [wikipedia.org] (that was only stopped because JFK refused to sign it), and more. Maybe this is why as people get older they lean more conservative. They start to realize so much of what you are led to believe, and what to believe, in your youth is about as real as unicorns and fairies.

      It's like all of our feel good ideological signaling is little more than Santa Claus for adults. And that's annoying.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @12:09PM (#1130690)

        Maybe this is why as people get older they lean more conservative. They start to realize so much of what you are led to believe, and what to believe, in your youth is about as real as unicorns and fairies.

        *headspin* WTF?! Old folks are the ones glued to Fox Bullshit and Talk Radio, lapping up any old bullshit based on the dumbest lie that only they tell them The Real Truth. You can't HANDLE the truth, old man.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @01:03PM (24 children)

        by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @01:03PM (#1130707)

        So you think older people tend to lean conservative because their old enough to know that progressives were right not to trust the CIA, that progressive leaders were targeted by the government, and that a liberal president is the only thing that stopped a false flag attack intended to start a war with Cuba?

        No, what you've presented is simply a justification for the old saying "if you're conservative when you're young it means you don't have a heart. If you're conservative when you're old it means you don't have a brain." If you look at the near infinite instances of conservatives using lies to manipulate the nation toward their favored policy and come away thinking "those are the guys I should support" that's an inditement of your intellect, not the world at large.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:39PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @02:39PM (#1130762)

          You fucked up the "old saying".

          https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/24/heart-head/ [quoteinvestigator.com]

        • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:35PM (7 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @03:35PM (#1130778)

          Your misquote there is rather an appropriate reflection of the point the actual quote makes. "If you are not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain."

          Liberalism is a group focused ideology that tries to maximize the impact of the best possible outcome. Conservatism is an individual focused ideology that tries to minimize the impact of the worst possible outcome.

          'Nobody' becomes conservative because they decide 'Hey I like this politician. I'm going to become conservative.' Rather they because they start to realize the nature of humanity. When you get to look back on today 10 or 20 years from now and see how you will most likely then see how we've reacted to COVID (and what ultimately came to be), how BLM is ultimately seen, or how "progressives" are seen, then your stances will probably change, and evolve if you might allow me some snark. But today you're so nose deep in ideological faith - convinced you're just part of the Civil Rights Movement 2.0, that trying to convince you of anything would be akin to trying to convince a faithful Christian that their religion is an invention of man, and not a God.

          And when your views change, whoever happens to be in office (or not), will have little to nothing to do with it. It will simply be life experience pushing you in a way you'll find yourself unable to resist, try as you might. And then you will have you turn looking on at the next generation, not quite bemused, but mostly disappointed - as they repeat the exact same errors you did. And you begin to understand *why* history repeats itself endlessly. About the time you begin to have wisdom thrust upon you, you will find your years ahead growing shorter and shorter. And the blind naivete and confidence of youth means it becomes ever impossible to genuinely pass on anything.

          So on on and we go, repeating the same circle. The only change in scenery being driven primarily by technological advance.

          • (Score: 3, Disagree) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @04:51PM (1 child)

            by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @04:51PM (#1130823)

            Yes, lets see how history looks back on those stupid progressives. Martin Luther King Jr? A national joke. Suffragettes? Nobody today would suggest women should vote! Forty hour work week? Fuck that, we all want to go back to eighty plus...

            Oh wait! In the real world the progressives of the past are celebrated and their achievements are fundamental to our society.

            So how will BLM be seen in a few decades? Well if we win and serious measures are put in place to stop police from murdering people then conservatives will all claim that they always supported BLM, just like conservatives always try to take credit for the good decisions of liberals and progressives. Just look at all the Republican senators taking credit [independent.co.uk] for the American Rescue Plan Act that they voted against!

            • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:19PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:19PM (#1130876)

              So you believe current Progressivism is comparable to MLK?

              I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. I'm not even going to mock you. The former won't work, and the latter will of course just further evangelize you - like a Christian being told the Bible was a work of man. All I will say is that as the years go by, it's likely that your views will change on this topic. And it's not like it will be because of any single event. It will just be a gradual disillusionment. You will gradually come to see that making people feel like they're the good guys, fighting against an unprecedented evil, is the best way to make people do incredibly awful things - easily convincing themselves that their acts aren't even really that bad after all. I mean is it bad if you do bad things to bad people?

              You will never relinquish liberal ideals, at least I never have. But you will come to see that liberalism and the acts, people, movements, and organizations that you are currently supporting - they are not the same thing.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:40AM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:40AM (#1131058)

            Or, tiny worms enter your brain and start gnawing away. More and more, you can't remember simple things, like where you left the car keys, and why single payer health insurance is a good idea. Sooner or latte, we find you yelling at clouds and telling liberals to get off your lawn, with an onion tied to your belt.

            • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday March 30 2021, @04:25PM (3 children)

              by Freeman (732) on Tuesday March 30 2021, @04:25PM (#1131254) Journal

              All of a sudden Biden's general expression makes sense.

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              Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
              • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @06:42PM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @06:42PM (#1131319)

                Still better than the fascist face filled with hatred and stupidity that we were exposed to for far too long. Funny how a hardcore christian like yourself was able to put aside the moral cesspit just because of a magic R. Although, you are into magic fairy tales so critical thinking isn't your strong suit. Then again, all adult humans have certain expectations they should meet! Guess we'll sweep you under the MAGA term and stop worrying about the granular details of just why you are what you are.

                • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday March 31 2021, @03:36PM

                  by Freeman (732) on Wednesday March 31 2021, @03:36PM (#1131630) Journal

                  You can say that with a straight face after giving us Hillary as the alternative?

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              • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 31 2021, @12:08AM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday March 31 2021, @12:08AM (#1131441) Journal

                Someone could take a gigantic Taco Bell shit in the desk chair in the Oval Office and it would be better than Trump. The guy wasn't just a bad president, he was actively harmful to the country.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:06PM (14 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:06PM (#1130791)

          Actually the best example of this phenomena in the here and now hasn't even been mentioned.

          About 3 weeks ago, Texas removed all state mask mandates and lockdowns. All of the "liberal" media, politicians, and everybody said this would be the end of the world for Texas - or at least something not too far from it. And the result? Here [worldometers.info] are the data. Scroll down for graphs. You can also hover over the various dates on the graphs to get exact numbers. The lockdown/masks ended on March 10th. Texas is not only doing fine, but it's on a downward trajectory for cases that's looking pretty promising, and is doing far better than places like New York taking far more authoritarian paths instead.

          Okay, whatever - the media, politicians, "scientists" (or at least people claiming to represent "The Science"), and so on all got it completely wrong. Shit happens. But the silence from all of these voices right now is deafening. Shouldn't we all be cheering and wondering if what's working for Texas might work in other states, or even on a national level? Why are they having such unexpectedly positive results? But, you see, these people don't even care about whether masks, lockdowns, and other stuff work. They just seem addicted to power, and more power, solely for its own sake.

          • (Score: 2) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @04:32PM (13 children)

            by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @04:32PM (#1130808)

            You do realize Texases biggest population centers continued to enforce mask mandates [msn.com] despite the governors decision, right? So what should we learn from Texas? Well it seems like mask mandates work and we should keep doing them.

            On a national level Republican led Staes have a COVID death rate nearly double [academictimes.com] those of Democrat led states.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:28PM (7 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:28PM (#1130844)

              You do realize that your conclusion is contradicted by your argument?

              You state that the urban have NOT changed their behavior, so they didn't contribute to any change in the death rate. But the rates did go down after the rural areas changed their behavior. Either the change in behavior decreased the death rate or the death rate is not affected by wearing masks.

              • (Score: 2) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @05:35PM (6 children)

                by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @05:35PM (#1130852)

                The whole state was already falling. It has continued falling as the urban areas have continued with the mask mandate. Did you not even look at your own graph?

                • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:40PM (5 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:40PM (#1130884)

                  Exactly one county in one area, Austin/Travis County, has continued with a global mask mandate. The affected population is ~5% of Texas, at most. Everywhere else - they're optional, at least in public. On private property, including businesses and government buildings, the owner can set whatever rule they prefer.

                  And the Austin ruling will 100% get tossed out on appeal, and we're not going to see a sudden spike then either.

                  • (Score: 2) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @08:48PM (4 children)

                    by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @08:48PM (#1130906)

                    In Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso masks are required in public transit and public buildings, including schools. I believe in all those cities private businesses are required to have and post health and safety polices which aren't required to include masks but forcing a business to post on the door "we don't use masks" is about the same as posting "we don't wash our hands" so businesses are incentivized to maintain masking policy as well.

                    So no, the mask ordinances now in effect don't carry fines for non-compliance but they still are in effect. Your grocery store and bank "voluntarily" requiring masks and requiring masks by mandate aren't very different scenarios, least of all from COVID's point of view.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @09:01AM (3 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @09:01AM (#1131134)

                      Businesses that require people to have masks are voluntarily putting notices outside, because otherwise the assumption would be no masks - but there's no requirement to post anything, either way. I'm certain you can find Houston street cams. Many folks are choosing not to wear masks, similarly for businesses, and society is getting along just fine.

                      I know you're in disbelief of the numbers, probably confused about why they are continuing to go down, but you shouldn't be. Do you know why mask mandates were put in place? Masks don't meaningfully protect *you* no matter if you're wearing 1 mask or 50. The whole idea behind mask mandates was to prevent asymptomatic spread, because they can help reduce the particulate matter (saliva, etc) that naturally is expelled in small quantities as people talk, breathe, etc. But it turns out asymptomatic spread is not even a thing. Asymptomatic carriers do not seem to be contagious. HOWEVER, presymptomatic carriers are. E.g. - if you've been infected, and will show symptoms in the near future, you do tend to be contagious. But this is an extremely small chunk of all people, for a very limited period of time, and of relatively limited effectiveness.

                      Ultimately, I believe in freedom. If people want to wear masks, more power to them. If a private business wants to require their customers to wear masks, more power to them. But this is something that should be decided upon by people, not government entities that are increasingly detached from society. Indeed, there have been countless cases emphasizing that the government is requiring various rules for society, and then they themselves regularly flout them. It's "rules for thee, but not for me." My position would not change, even if government officials were generally obeying their own rules - but the fact they aren't only emphasizes the absurdity of all of this.

                      • (Score: 2) by helel on Tuesday March 30 2021, @01:46PM (1 child)

                        by helel (2949) on Tuesday March 30 2021, @01:46PM (#1131186)

                        Executive Order NW-20 Bexar County Judge Nelson W. Wolff
                        Issued March 9, 2021

                        Health and Safety Policy - Commercial Entities. All commercial entities in Bexar County providing goods or services directly to the public must continue to post and implement a health and safety policy ("Health and Safety Policy"). The Health and Safety Policy required by this Executive Order should be developed by the commercial entity after considering the specific needs of its business operation and services provided in light of currentStateorderspublichealthguidance. Whilethecommercialentityshouldimplement the Health and Safety Policy which best fits its business needs in consideration of the specific health risks presented by its operations, commercial entities may consider the following elements to include in their Health and Safety Policy:
                        i) Requiring employees, customers and other visitors to wear face masks;
                        ii) Requiring customers to maintain six feet of separation;
                        iii) Implementing voluntarily developing occupancy limitations; or
                        iv) Implementing screening procedures such as temperature checks or health screenings.
                        Nothing in this Executive Order requires a commercial entity to adopt any specific recommendation. However, all commercial entities must post a Health and Safety Policy once adopted in a conspicuous location sufficient to provide clear notice to all employees, customers and visitors of any health and safety requirements implemented by the commercial entity, including any policy on wearing a face mask.

                        Like I said, required to post a policy. "We don't wash our hands" is some shitty advertising so of course the majority of businesses are going to post "everyone must wear a mask." Hence things remain more or less as they did under the mask mandate: You can walk around outside, drive, and stay home without a mask. You need a mask to go to any businesses, schools, public transit, or the like. Or did Texas have a much stricter mask policy in place than any of the blue states I'm familiar with?

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:42PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:42PM (#1131239)

                          Again you are presumably being misled here. That's one county, and it's not like it's just going to make everybody wear masks even there. Even when masks were required *many* people in Texas were not wearing them, and now there are even fewer people wearing them. Rather than asking you take this AC's word on it, I dug up a street cam here [youtube.com] that has pretty regular foot traffic where you can see folk's faces clear enough. You might see a mask here and there, but it's definitely not the majority of folks masking up, or even remotely close to it.

                          *You* might only want to go into a place that requires masks, but that's mostly because of your biases. Same reason that right now I suspect you are still in just utter disbelief that most people aren't masking up, yet there's no apocalypse scenario happening. Even after you watch that webcam for a bit I suspect you'll find some reason to deny even what you can plainly see with your own eyes.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @06:52AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 07 2021, @06:52AM (#1134192)

                        it turns out asymptomatic spread is not even a thing

                        That is misinformation and here is a countercitation https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774102 [jamanetwork.com]

                        The truth is that asymptomatic spread is lower but not none.

                        Your opinion about masks is also false. There is a ton of great information easily available on the topic. Try reading some peer reviewed work instead of watching videos of dudes in shades talking while driving.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:42PM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @05:42PM (#1130855)

              Are you trolling or just grossly misinformed? The entire metro area of Austin (which is far larger than the relatively small area still actively masking) in Texas is about 2 million people. The population of Texas is 30 million.

              And similarly on your "nearly double." This [literatumonline.com] is a graph of death rates from the paper that your article relied on. Looks like the difference they measured was 7.5 vs 9. And that was after some opaque massaging and a failure to disclose their raw values. The media then further spins that into clickbait. And then you further spin the media and come here turning that into "nearly double." This is why liberalism is something most people grow out of. Because you begin to see this nonsense is not the exception, but the rule.

              If you at all care to inform yourself, check the raw data yourself. After all it's readily available. I'll even help you out:

              State [worldometers.info] COVID data. Includes deaths, tests, rates, and much more.
              State [wikipedia.org] political affiliation.

              • (Score: 2) by helel on Monday March 29 2021, @06:01PM (3 children)

                by helel (2949) on Monday March 29 2021, @06:01PM (#1130863)

                If I understand you correctly your argument is "Republican states did worse, but not as much worse as you said so you're wrong."? I guess it might be inaccurate to call a risk rate of 1.77 "nearly two" but at this point we're arguing about how bad conservative policies are, not whether or not they are bad in the first place.

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:30PM (2 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @06:30PM (#1130881)

                  I presented data related to this specific case that shows how well the removal of the mask mandate is succeeding in Texas. You responded with two things.

                  1) Fake claims suggesting masks were still being required in major cities, as a rule. They're not, with some isolated exceptions like Travis County.

                  2) Some paper that has nothing to do with what we're talking about, which you then radically exaggerated the numbers of. I indulged it, not because it was in any way relevant, but because I like to inform myself - rather than only seek information to confirm my biases. Again, something you might learn, some day.

                  • (Score: 2) by helel on Tuesday March 30 2021, @12:10AM (1 child)

                    by helel (2949) on Tuesday March 30 2021, @12:10AM (#1130997)

                    In Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso masks are required in public transit and public buildings, including schools. I believe in all those cities private businesses are required to have and post health and safety polices which aren't required to include masks but forcing a business to post on the door "we don't use masks" is about the same as posting "we don't wash our hands" so businesses are incentivized to maintain masking policy as well.

                    So maybe Texas shows that we don't need heavy handed fines to enforce masking but it still does show that masks are effective and should be broadly employed as a tool against COVID.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @09:05AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @09:05AM (#1131135)

                      Instead of reposting, it might be better to just link [soylentnews.org] to when two divergent topics begin to merge.

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Monday March 29 2021, @02:45PM

        by HiThere (866) on Monday March 29 2021, @02:45PM (#1130765) Journal

        I think your second paragraph is correct.

        OTOH, while Hoover was in command, outsiders couldn't tell the FBI what to do, so they did their job except when Hoover wanted them to do something else. That generally looked different, though your comment about the FBI sending fake letters to MLK is one time when they looked the same. These days multiple people are telling the FBI what to do and that's more visibly chaotic.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @04:02PM (#1130788)

      Or more concretely, how long can they suppress all the video Epstein shot on Pedo Island? They know sooner or later some of that drops and Deep Fakes is the only defense. Notice how the very concept appeared at about the time he was arrested the second time, the time they realized they couldn't just make the charges go away again?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:51AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 30 2021, @03:51AM (#1131059)

      Ghislaine Maxwell, July 2021

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 29 2021, @11:51AM (#1130684)

    FBI encourages using the: Stop, Investigate the source, Find trusted coverage, and Trace the original content when consuming information online, or "SIFT" methodology.

    Good luck with that Internet.

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