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posted by martyb on Saturday January 29 2022, @03:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the trust-is-hard-won-and-easily-lost dept.

Windows 11 frame rate stuttering reported by some users with AMD CPUs:

Some Windows 11 users are running into trouble with sporadic stuttering issues (accompanied with audio glitches), which according to reports are related to AMD processors and the necessary TPM [*] security required by Microsoft's newest operating system.

Specifically, on AMD PCs, there's an implementation of TPM which is fTPM – meaning it's integrated in firmware, rather than on a separate TPM module – and this is what folks who are affected believe is causing the issue, finding that when it's turned off in the BIOS, the stuttering disappears.

Unfortunately, some people don't have the option to turn off fTPM – that switch simply isn't present in the BIOS – so they're out of luck on that score. The other alternative solution appears to be installing a discrete TPM module, rather than relying on the firmware integrated functionality, and this also works to fix the issue – at least according to reports. Assuming you have the ability to install a separate TPM module in your PC.

[...] the stuttering frame rates hit at random times and last for a few seconds in some cases – longer in others – and audio is garbled at the same time.

If that should occur, say, during a crucial moment of an online game you're about to win, that's going to be pretty frustrating (and doubtless it'll be a serious annoyance as part of your everyday computing life, too).

[...] Essentially, turning off fTPM is something of a minefield of possible collateral damage on Windows 11, and that's why some of those who want to get around this stuttering glitch are downgrading to Windows 10.

This issue is hopefully something both Microsoft and AMD are putting their heads together to attempt to fix, so we can keep our fingers crossed that a proper resolution is delivered in the near future. If the glitches aren't disrupting your computing experience too much, likely your best bet is to sit tight and hope for the timely delivery of a patch.

[*] TPM (Trusted Platform Module) on Wikipedia.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @03:35AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @03:35AM (#1216606)

    /thread

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:40AM (#1216626)

      Sounds like they replaced Clippy with Max Headroom!

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:18AM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:18AM (#1216608)

    fucking mafia + Scientology combined

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:19AM (9 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:19AM (#1216609) Journal

      And Intel

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:46AM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:46AM (#1216614)

        Microsoft has always been in bed with Intel - you can't tell where one's anatomy begins, and the other begins.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:59AM (7 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @04:59AM (#1216617)

          For a devil's advocate perspective, Intel employs hundreds of engineers that develop code for Linux. They also employ engineers developing windows drivers, but I suspect they pay many more Linux developers then they do Windows developers.

          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:48AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:48AM (#1216630)

            "Satan! Get thee behind me! You and Poettering too! "

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:24AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:24AM (#1216638)

              Just because Micro$ert has feed invalid APIs to competitors in the past, that does not mean they are doing similar today. Does it?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:37PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:37PM (#1216757)

              systemd hasn't replaced TPM yet?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @12:38PM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @12:38PM (#1216682)

            develop possibly malevolent code for Linux

            FTFY

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:53PM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:53PM (#1216777)

              You do know that the vast majority of development for Linux is funded by big corporations like Intel, right?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:05AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:05AM (#1216813)

                i doubt we'll ever get all the way to the bone of the hand tho ...

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:07AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:07AM (#1216815)

                Which explains systemd.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:45AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @05:45AM (#1216628)

    I had some things to say to Ari, but now his journal is gone! Where is it? How do I find it? We can't let this bastard off this easy. Eds, restore the link to Ari's journal, so we can downmod him some more!

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @06:28AM (#1216639)

      Hint: He's Spamming with the fishes. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!)

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by drussell on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:34PM

      by drussell (2678) Subscriber Badge on Saturday January 29 2022, @08:34PM (#1216770) Journal

      His journal is not gone. It is right where it always is: https://soylentnews.org/~aristarchus [soylentnews.org]

      Now please stop derailing and diluting discussions with -Offtopic nonsense!

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @12:29PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 29 2022, @12:29PM (#1216681)

    I strongly suggest you take our trusted platform offer. It'd b-be a real shame if something happened to your gaming rig. You know, for your s-safety.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:06PM (3 children)

    by SomeGuy (5632) on Saturday January 29 2022, @01:06PM (#1216687)

    How about you shitcocks at Microsoft take your Fucking TPM, shove it up your asses, and die.

    • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:11PM (2 children)

      by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Saturday January 29 2022, @09:11PM (#1216783) Homepage Journal

      This is for anyone who complains about the TPM requirement… your redundant griping about TPM is ignorant.

      I installed Windows 11 Pro (.iso downloaded last week) on an Asus Eee PC with an Intel Atom 455 CPU and 2GB of RAM (activated and all updates) just because I find it comical!

      As soon as the first screen comes up don’t click anything just press shift-F10, it will open a command prompt where you can run regedit.

      Type ‘regedit’ and hit enter
      The Windows Registry Editor will now open. In the address bar, type ‘HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup’ and hit enter
      You should now see a ‘Setup’ key. Right-click it and choose New > Key

      You’ll now be prompted to give it a name. Choose ‘LabConfig’ and hit enter
      Right-click the new key you’ve created (LabConfig) and choose New > DWORD (32-bit) value
      Give it the name ‘BypassTPMCheck’ and set its data to 1

      Follow the same process for ‘BypassRAMCheck’ and ‘BypassSecureBootCheck’, with the same value of 1

      Close regedit and install. It’s really not a big deal. Rufus (flash boot creating software) will even apply the TPM and Securebootcheck, so if your computer has 4GB of ram you don’t even need to regedit anything.

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      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:09AM (#1216817)

        Until Microsoft disables that workaround next Vaccination Tuesday as a "security enhancement".

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @12:09AM (#1216818)

        if you press shift-F10 at the right moment during winblows operation you get flagged in some dark obscure hole of code. you know, when they need to ..uhm.. blame someone for something.
        afterall they "warned you" and even made it (a bit difficult) but you didn't listen :P

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Username on Saturday January 29 2022, @02:47PM (3 children)

    by Username (4557) on Saturday January 29 2022, @02:47PM (#1216704)

    First, TPM is on linux as well, it's not a windows thing. Second, yes it's nonsense.

    There is no need for this thing. It's the same as that stupid captcha that websites use as a money generator, getting you to verify google image data for free. Same with password protecting your phone, you're just locking yourself out of your data when the screen breaks.

    None of this stuff will protect you. There is always a way around it. I've gotten locked out of plenty of things to know this.

    • (Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:24AM (2 children)

      by acid andy (1683) on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:24AM (#1216841) Homepage Journal

      Same with password protecting your phone, you're just locking yourself out of your data when the screen breaks.

      I'm not sure that's the best reason not to password protect your phone. If you choose a phone well designed enough to have a removable memory card, then you can keep your data on that. Then when the phone breaks, just put the memory card in a replacement phone (or a computer, depending on how the password protection works).

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      • (Score: 2) by Username on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:40PM (1 child)

        by Username (4557) on Sunday January 30 2022, @03:40PM (#1216966)

        Well, what is the point in the password if someone can just take the card out and read the data?

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jasassin on Sunday January 30 2022, @05:44PM

          by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Sunday January 30 2022, @05:44PM (#1216999) Homepage Journal

          Well, what is the point in the password if someone can just take the card out and read the data?

          You can encrypt the SD card.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 30 2022, @02:43AM (#1216850)

    This is literally an exploitable CPU firmware bug.

    There almost couldn't be a deeper security hole.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by TrentDavey on Sunday January 30 2022, @08:12PM

    by TrentDavey (1526) on Sunday January 30 2022, @08:12PM (#1217055)

    I just wish they'd get a fix pushed out for this. I can hit "delete" on a file and can visibly time how long it takes for anything to happen. I've got a brand new HP stand-alone (huge screen for my aging eyes) with an SSD for storage.

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