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posted by hubie on Friday November 01, @11:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the so-many-0s dept.

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/10/29/russian-court-orders-google-to-pay-blocked-russian-channels-sum-with-36-zeros-en-news

A Russia court claims that Google currently owes them 2000000 0000000000 0000000000 0000000000, or 2 undecillion if you will -- a number with 36 trailing zeros, rubles.

This is due to a fine of 100 000 rubles per day exponentially growing since sometimes in 2021 due to Google blocking various Russian sites from Youtube.

The slight problem is that the fine is now so large that it is many, many, times the entire worlds combined GDP. I don't think they should expect to get paid anytime soon.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by pkrasimirov on Friday November 01, @12:53PM (5 children)

    by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 01, @12:53PM (#1379793)

    I thought this news is about prime numbers search.

    Do they track such "debt" with computers? Can their accounting programs handle such numbers? Exponential growth means that, after a certain point, it will no longer be possible to express quantities using terms like "-illion" when answering the question "how much." Instead, they will only be able to provide codes such as 2e36.

    • (Score: 2) by AnonTechie on Friday November 01, @04:26PM (2 children)

      by AnonTechie (2275) on Friday November 01, @04:26PM (#1379825) Journal

      Largest prime number ever found spans 41 million digits, sets new world record

      An amateur mathematician has discovered the largest known prime number, a colossal 41 million digits long, using freely available software.

      Luke Durant, a 36 year-old researcher and former NVIDIA employee, used a free program, the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS), to identify the new prime through an advanced algorithm. The largest known prime number now is 2136,279,841-1, having 41,024,320 decimal digits.

      https://interestingengineering.com/science/largest-prime-number-discovered [interestingengineering.com]

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      • (Score: 1, Redundant) by janrinok on Friday November 01, @04:32PM (1 child)

        by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 01, @04:32PM (#1379827) Journal

        https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/10/22/1842258 [soylentnews.org]

        I think you might have missed a story from a week ago....

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        • (Score: 2) by AnonTechie on Friday November 01, @08:11PM

          by AnonTechie (2275) on Friday November 01, @08:11PM (#1379856) Journal

          I guess I did miss that ... Sorry about that !

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @01:29AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @01:29AM (#1379907)

      Googolplex works for me

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday November 02, @05:29PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday November 02, @05:29PM (#1379987) Homepage Journal

      Do they track such "debt" with computers?

      If by "they" you mean the media, they don't even know the difference between a dollar and a ruble, the way they write it the only difference is the dollar sign and ruble sign before the identical number. Their computers are seemingly incapable of monetary conversions at all, at least numbers that big.

      The Nooze [nooze.org] about the fine

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by turgid on Friday November 01, @01:14PM

    by turgid (4318) on Friday November 01, @01:14PM (#1379794) Journal

    Dictators do like a bit of hyperinflation. In a few years that probably won't even buy a loaf of bread.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Friday November 01, @01:52PM

    by Rosco P. Coltrane (4757) on Friday November 01, @01:52PM (#1379801)

    a number with 36 trailing zeros, rubles.

    There was an old joke back when the USSR was still a thing:

    "What's the difference between one dollar and one ruble?"
    "One dollar."

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01, @02:34PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01, @02:34PM (#1379814)

    Rusky clowns just being fucking ridiculous again. What is the point of this totally unrealistic number and what ever threats they constantly make?

    They sound like 10-year olds fighting about something stupid, except only on their own:
    -You owe me gazillion trillion billion super diamond dollars!
    -No you owe me bazillion gazillion trillion billion super diamond dollars!
    -Na-aa, i locked it before you said. You owe me! I'll nuke you!

    Fucking idiots. And this is the kind of people they let decide the fate of their country. Too bad this kind of bullshit is spreading around. Fucking narsisistic fucks ruining it for all.
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    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Friday November 01, @02:42PM (2 children)

      by VLM (445) on Friday November 01, @02:42PM (#1379817)

      What is the point of this totally unrealistic number

      A lot of SEC reports require accurate reporting of accounts payable so it'll be "funny" to see how the mighty google reports this in their paperwork. Is it SEC fraud report time for google if they don't include 2 undecillion rubles in their accounts payable line of the 10-Q? I mean, yeah, kind of.

      There's a lot of weird financial fraud stuff related to IT. I seem to recall Ma Bell (old days pre divestiture) claiming some script kiddie cost them umpty hundreds of millions of dollars to catch and at sentencing the kid pointed out the company is doing securities fraud because the annual report didn't mention the fraction of a billion dollar loss in their SEC filings, or they committed perjury when reporting the hilariously high loss dollar value in court. Kid still went to prison, of course but at least he went out in style...

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by AnewNew on Friday November 01, @05:27PM (1 child)

        by AnewNew (48582) on Friday November 01, @05:27PM (#1379839)

        I would assume it also sets the stage for asset seizure. With Russia alone this might not be to much of an issue, but with BRICS likely to establish treaties on mutual recognition of debts and obligation to aid in collection, it could be a significant problem for Google.

        More broadly, a multipolar world is likely to prove increasingly untenable for corporations seeking to span the globe. Social media's issues to date are just the appetizer for what's yet to come.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Friday November 01, @07:26PM

          by VLM (445) on Friday November 01, @07:26PM (#1379850)

          a multipolar world is likely to prove increasingly untenable for corporations seeking to span the globe.

          So there is some good news out of the whole thing.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Megahard on Friday November 01, @02:37PM (5 children)

    by Megahard (4782) on Friday November 01, @02:37PM (#1379815)

    With plays written by monkeys.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Friday November 01, @03:06PM (4 children)

      by VLM (445) on Friday November 01, @03:06PM (#1379820)

      Interesting concept time: In a way this is an epic troll by the Russians against Google because they're kind of committing security fraud no matter what they do or how they document this in their financial documents.

      However, there is a funny hack to troll them back. Google could create the VodkaCoin or the VodkaNFT consisting primarily of an AI generated picture of "2 undecillion rubles" and declare its value to be 2 undecillion rubles and submit that for payment.

      Then Google can file financial documents proving they paid their debit in full. Russia wanted 2 undecillion rubles so they emailed a NFT with a declared value of 2 undecillion rubles and as far as they're concerned, the matter is closed.

      This would actually be pretty hilarious if Google did it. Usually, financial people are not funny at all, but once in a while, they have the chance to be really funny. This would be possibly the funniest crypto-adjacent story I've ever heard.

      • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday November 01, @04:39PM

        by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday November 01, @04:39PM (#1379828)

        If there's not already a provision for spurious claims by insincere entities of questionable jurisdiction, there soon will be...

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      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday November 01, @07:56PM (1 child)

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 01, @07:56PM (#1379853)

        ...and declare its value to be 2 undecillion rubles and submit that for payment.

        Does Russia even have tech that could handle that invoice? 🤡

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @02:30AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @02:30AM (#1379911)
          Yeah, it's called pencil and paper. I'm sure the Russians still have people familiar with that.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @11:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 02, @11:04AM (#1379937)

        That could backfire if the IRS then comes after them for the capital gains on an NFT suddenly worth 2 undecillion rubles.

        Which would also be hilarious.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by pTamok on Friday November 01, @06:37PM

    by pTamok (3042) on Friday November 01, @06:37PM (#1379844)

    It strikes me that the names of large numbers are the kind of things that appeal (mostly) to pre-pubescent boys. I don't find them particularly useful, and would prefer that people used engineering notation (n.mmm| nm.mm | nmm.m) x 10 (3x) (n is a digit from 1 to 9, m is a digit from 0 to 9 and x is an integer), so this number would be 2.000 x 1030. It makes comparing the magnitude of numbers easy. If people want to name the numbers where the exponents of 10 are multiple of three, that's fine, but don't force me to learn them - especially when they are country specific.
    In India, they use lakhs and crores. Locally, well known. Outside, not so much, but the same number in engineering notation would be understandable, no matter the culture.

  • (Score: 2) by Revek on Friday November 01, @11:36PM (2 children)

    by Revek (5022) on Friday November 01, @11:36PM (#1379893)

    In doctor evil.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Gaaark on Saturday November 02, @04:47PM (1 child)

      by Gaaark (41) on Saturday November 02, @04:47PM (#1379980) Journal

      And Donald Trump is Putin's 'Mini-me'.

      And J.D. Vance is Trump's 'Mini-me'. (Gods... Vance HATED Trump, now he DRESSES exactly like him... what a douche).

      And Vance's 'Mini-me' humps the couch.

      And there's Putin asking "Why make undecillions when we can make... BILLIONS?"

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      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Saturday November 02, @05:32PM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Saturday November 02, @05:32PM (#1379989) Homepage Journal

        And Donald Trump is Putin's 'Mini-me'.

        No, his sock puppet. We had a president who was beholden to Putin and may yet again.

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