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posted by takyon on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the i-fought-the-law-and... dept.

Previously: Militia Occupies Federal Building in Oregon After Rancher Arson Convictions

Russia Today reports:

Ammon Bundy, the leader of the armed group occupying a federal wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon, and four others have been arrested by law enforcement amid gunfire, according to the FBI.

At 4:25 pm on [January 26], the FBI and Oregon State Police "began an enforcement action to bring into custody a number of individuals associated with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. During that arrest, there were shots fired", the Bureau said in a statement.

The FBI said one person who was "a subject of a federal probable cause arrest is deceased". He said they are not releasing any information on the person "pending identification by the medical examiner's office".

One person suffered non-life threatening injuries and was taken to a local hospital for treatment. He was arrested and is in custody.

The arrested individuals include:
- Ammon Edward Bundy, age 40, of Emmett, Idaho.
- Ryan C. Bundy, age 43, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Brian Cavalier, age 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada.
- Shawna Cox, age 59, of Kanab, Utah.
- Ryan Waylen Payne, age 32, of Anaconda, Montana.

CNN, NYT, Washington Post, BBC, OregonLive.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday January 27 2016, @12:36PM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @12:36PM (#295244)

    Ugh, Gawker is as bad as, sometimes worse than, fox news. I don't believe anything they print. I can't wait for all the things they're being sued for to wrap up so they can go into receivership and burn.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @01:46PM (#295266)

    And yet the article about Finicum is just the facts. So yeah, terrible.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:12PM

    by ikanreed (3164) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:12PM (#295328) Journal

    I'm glad you're hear to post your personal incredulity of easily verified facts so we can know what websites you hate. Where would we be without you?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:32PM

      by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @03:32PM (#295347)

      Screaming about how nerds need to be bullied and complaining about Jennifer Lawrence's nudes while diddling kids and watching Hulk Hogan's sex tape?

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      • (Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:24PM

        by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @11:24PM (#295647)

        I was being facetious, but I'm actually quite happy to accept the flame bait mod for this, it's all actual true though.

        Bullying nerds [imgur.com]
        Lawrence's nudes [gawker.com]
        Defending paedophiles [gawker.com]
        Hulk Hogan's sex tape [gawker.com]

        And that's not even the tip of the iceberg for the crap Gawker prints and does. So mod away, doesn't change reality.

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        "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @04:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @04:02PM (#295366)

    Found the Gamergater.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @05:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @05:39PM (#295424)

      They're more welcome here than dipshit SRS trolls, now back to reddit with you.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @06:01PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @06:01PM (#295437)

      > Found the Gamergater.

      You got modded Troll but you were exactly right. [soylentnews.org] It's not trolling if it is factual.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @06:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @06:46PM (#295455)

        If you're dismissive about people that called out Gawker as bullshit then you're as bad as untra-cons who call people libtards for pointing out faux is bullshit. Stop trying to pretending you're a different troll, it's not fooling anyone.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:04PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:04PM (#295463)

          Nope, just dismissive of one guy who isn't calling out gawker for anything other than his personal butt-hurt.

          Also, you are clearly the original troll just making illogical arguments so that you can come along and knock them down in order to make your original post look even more insightful. I know you are but what am I?

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by gman003 on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:27PM

    by gman003 (4155) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @07:27PM (#295488)

    Gawker has their share of problems. They publish all kinds of unsubstantiated rumors, idiotic ramblings and blatant clickbait. Some of their sites are just worthless - Gizmodo is usually crap, Jezebel is a waste of time, Lifehacker is obvious, and the main Gawker is half-assed. Oh, and their comments system is rubbish. They've got some decent posters, but if you don't get into the first five posts, good luck having anyone ever read it.

    But you know what? They make up for that.

    1) They aren't owned by outside interests. They don't toe to any corporate line like the rest of the mainstream media does. Sometimes the position they take is stupid, but at least it's a new kind of stupid.

    2) They aren't afraid to do the right thing, even if it pisses off big companies. Kotaku's been blacklisted by a couple game publishers, sometimes for breaking NDAs they didn't even sign. Just today, Jalopnik basically told Honda to go fuck themselves [jalopnik.com]. I don't know of any time anyone's been able to make them back down - even sometimes when they should have, like that Hulk Hogan sextape thing.

    3) After that big hack, they started taking privacy and security seriously. As seen above, they have a "burner account" system that's resistant to even legal-system attacks. For a while they were PGP-signing posts - been a while since I noticed it, might have just moved it somewhere or stopped doing it on trivial posts.

    4) While half of their reporters seem to have been dropped on the head as infants, a lot of them actually know their shit. Whoever it is who writes for Foxtrot Alpha, for instance. Even some of their entertainment writers are good - Doug DeMuro doesn't write about anything important, but he's consistently one of the funniest writers I've read.

    And you know what? When it comes to factual reporting, they get it wrong less often than others. I'd be sad to see them go, if they ever do.

    • (Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Wednesday January 27 2016, @08:04PM

      by Vanderhoth (61) on Wednesday January 27 2016, @08:04PM (#295521)

      We're just going to have to disagree on a lot of this. For starters Gawker, and most of their subsidiaries, are gossip sites, not news.

      They don't toe to any corporate line like the rest of the mainstream media does. Sometimes the position they take is stupid, but at least it's a new kind of stupid.

      True, they do what suits them, but in a lot of cases this is actually worse. Because they're not accountable they can spread unsubstantiated gossip and ruin people apologetically. So they can claim it's awful that Jennifer Lawrence's nudes were released in one article and pretend to have a moral high ground stance while passing around Hulk Hogan's sex tape or spreading gossip / outing a gay rival.

      They aren't afraid to do the right thing, even if it pisses off big companies. Kotaku's been blacklisted by a couple game publishers

      The "right thing" in your example using Kotaku is releasing game elements of something that was in development so they could harp on how sexist it was. It was hardly for "the public good", which is the only time journalists whistle blowing is justified, not because they didn't like the outfit or story element of a game that hasn't been released. If I was a game developer the last thing I'd want is to be sharing PR with a gossip site that specializes in making everything a sex/race controversy. You can't force a company to talk to people they KNOW are going to misrepresent them then flush them down the shitter for no other reason than it gets page views.

      It's also really hypocritical of them to whine about being blacklisted, then turn around and blacklist others [youtube.com].

      After that big hack, they started taking privacy and security seriously. As seen above, they have a "burner account" system that's resistant to even legal-system attacks. For a while they were PGP-signing posts - been a while since I noticed it, might have just moved it somewhere or stopped doing it on trivial posts.

      I've never noticed this, but if true it'd step down to a 9.5 from a 10 for sites I avoid because they're almost all irrelevant opinion pieces that misrepresent everything. Right now they're pretty much the gold standard for me for what to avoid, but you can't help clicking on their links every now and then when people are linking to irrelevant puff pieces to support their personal politics.

      While half of their reporters seem to have been dropped on the head as infants, a lot of them actually know their shit. Whoever it is who writes for Foxtrot Alpha, for instance. Even some of their entertainment writers are good - Doug DeMuro doesn't write about anything important, but he's consistently one of the funniest writers I've read.

      I can't comment on Foxtrot Alpha as I've never read it, but of their official subsidiaries (Cink, Deadspin, Gawker.com, Gizmodo, io9, Jalopnik, Jezebel, Kotaku, Lifehacker) a LOT of people will argue they're all a waste of time.

      I don't mean to be condescending, because I appreciate you taking the time to type out a reasonable response, but the negatives, which you yourself pointed out, out way the occasional good article.

      As an aside, looks like Nick Denton is stepping down as Gawker's chief executive, maybe things will improve?

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      "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @04:56AM (#295777)

        The "right thing" in your example using Kotaku is releasing game elements of something that was in development so they could harp on how sexist it was. It was hardly for "the public good"

        Yeah social criticism ... that's hardly for the public good. Its all about making vanderhoth's butt hurt and that's not good.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 28 2016, @01:32AM (#295701)

      1) They [Gawker] aren't owned by outside interests. They don't toe to any corporate line like the rest of the mainstream media does. Sometimes the position they take is stupid, but at least it's a new kind of stupid.

      Gawker: We're a new kind of stupid!

      Sounds like just the kind of place I want to get my news! </sarcasm>