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posted by takyon on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:00PM   Printer-friendly

A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.

takyon: The gunman reportedly called 911 emergency services to pledge allegiance to ISIS. The President will hold a briefing momentarily. Compare this article to the original submission.


Original Submission   Late submission by physicsmajor

 
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  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by wonkey_monkey on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:08PM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:08PM (#358730) Homepage

    Execute:

    carry out a sentence of death on (a legally condemned person).
    kill (someone) as a political act.

    It was neither of those things.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:15PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:15PM (#358738) Journal

    Changed to "killed".

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @02:06AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 13 2016, @02:06AM (#359058) Journal

      All the pedantry aside - there's got to be a new "Florida Man" joke in this story. Every time you read or hear a tagline, "Man from Florida", you KNOW something outrageous is coming.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday June 13 2016, @02:14AM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday June 13 2016, @02:14AM (#359067) Journal

        Floridians won't even feel unsafe after this large terrorist attack. It's just the cost of doing bizness in FL.

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      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 14 2016, @01:47PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 14 2016, @01:47PM (#359883) Journal

        And your post made me think "Florida burning Man" joke.

        Not so funny, really.

        DISCLAIMER: if the next 'attack' consists of fire, I was at home, or at work, or with my family somewhere.
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        .
        I have witnesses that say so.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:16PM (#358739)

    Terrorist actions ARE political acts.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 12 2016, @06:25PM (#358742)

    > kill (someone) as a political act.

    What, do you think this guy just had personal grudges against all 50+ people he killed in that particular night club?
    Of course it was political.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Username on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:12PM

    by Username (4557) on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:12PM (#358782)

    Islam isn’t just a religion, it is a political ideology. That is why homosexuality is illegal in the Islamic world, and is punishable by execution by 11 different countries.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @12:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @12:42AM (#358998)

      Islam itself is a religion; it just so happens, however, that many of its proponents also subscribe to a toxic political ideology.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday June 13 2016, @01:01AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 13 2016, @01:01AM (#359008) Journal

        You need to re-read the other AC and give his statement some serious thought.

        Islam is NOT "just a religion". It is a judicial system, a political movement, a philosophy, a way of life. Islam rejected each and every one of the ancient philosophers, and it rejects all other judicial systems. Islam has no room for socialism, capitalism, democracy, or fascism. Islam is sufficient unto itself in all respects. Islam doesn't look outside itself for anything.

        • (Score: 2) by dmc on Monday June 13 2016, @09:08PM

          by dmc (188) on Monday June 13 2016, @09:08PM (#359614)

          Islam doesn't look outside itself for anything.

          You haven't spent a lot of time interacting with multiple people of any particular religion have you? Take any label or classification of people, then go spend real time getting to know a dozen of the people who fall into that category. You'll soon realize that the labeling and classifications are not clarifying the situation (at least in the way that you used them). There are some christians that "look outside of themselves for something", and then there are some christians (from seneca kansas as I recall) that call on the government to execute homosexuals. It's a big complicated world.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @03:32AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @03:32AM (#360361)

            All well and good until one of them tries to kill you.
            Then none of this applies.

            Try telling a rape victim that not all men are rapists. Right.

            Read the koran. At least once.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:47PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:47PM (#360770)

              toothbrushes, wife beating, and the koran. Been there, done that.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 14 2016, @01:59PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 14 2016, @01:59PM (#359894) Journal

        THIS is why religion needs to disappear:

        ah, shit, i just f'd up: this is why ORGANIZED religion needs to disappear.

        YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO TELL YOU HOW TO BELIEVE OR NOT TO BELIEVE, ANY MORE THAN YOU NEED SOMEONE TO TELL YOU HOW TO THINK OR NOT THINK.

        Believe what you believe, think what you think, but think about it and question it. Is what i am thinking a good thing? Is it? Why? What?

        If you believe in a 'God', fine! If you think the moon has never been landed on, fine! But think about it: don't just accept what someone tells you.
        Don't strap a bomb to yourself 'cause someone says 'this is a good thing'. (If it was a good thing, THEY'D be doing it themselves, but they're not, are they! (Think about that.)

        As one sig says, (to paraphrase, because i don't have it in front of me)(apologies to the owner for saying it so lamely): "I just told you to think about it for yourself."

        More people need to think, instead of being sheeple and doing what the shepherd says.

        Damn, people.
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        THINK!

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:09AM (#359131)

      > Islam isn’t just a religion, it is a political ideology.

      Just like christianity, judaism, hinduism, confucianism and practically every major religion.

      And just like every religion it is all subject to interpretation of which there are practically an unlimited number to chose from. That's why you can have these gay imames [islamandhomosexuality.com] and this mosque welcoming LGBQT people [www.cbc.ca] and american evangelicals pushing the death penatly for gay sex in uganda. [thinkprogress.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @07:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @07:31AM (#359226)

        Mod Points! My kingdom for mod points!

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:07PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:07PM (#359900) Journal

          I have mod points, but it's already at 5. I tried to push it to 6, as that is one better, but it seems the limit is 5.
          .
          But why not just make 5 one louder.
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          Well, mine goes to 6!
          .
          (yeah, sorry. It's the vodka talking again).

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:30PM

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday June 12 2016, @07:30PM (#358794) Journal

    Hair splitting. I don't believe Wonkey has been designated an official arbiter of word definitions. Dictionaries carry a significant variety of definitions.

    Firing on police, or anyone else for that matter, immediately invokes a right to self defense, and therefor renders the shooter a legally condemned person.
    Execution also does not require any political motivation in at all. You made that part up. Although all indications are that there were political motives involved in this instance.

    The original submission was a little suspect in the choice of words, using the phrase "executed by police" suggests a certain amount of sympathy with the attacker. However this might have been a casual choice of words,

    Takyon felt obligated to point out the edit to this story by adding "Compare this article to the original submission." That too seems out of character and somewhat suspect. I don't know if that happened before or after wonkey inserted himself in the editing process.
     

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    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:20PM

      by butthurt (6141) on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:20PM (#358822) Journal

      The term "execution" implies, to my mind, a killing that was not in self-defence and was intentional, not accidental. Consider the expression "execution style":

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution-style_murder [wikipedia.org]
      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=execution%20style [urbandictionary.com]
      http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/execution+style [thefreedictionary.com]
      http://wishtv.com/2016/02/26/victims-found-in-fort-wayne-home-killed-execution-style/ [wishtv.com]
      http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/execution+style [thefreedictionary.com]

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Sunday June 12 2016, @10:26PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Sunday June 12 2016, @10:26PM (#358922) Journal

      Takyon felt obligated to point out the edit to this story by adding "Compare this article to the original submission." That too seems out of character and somewhat suspect.

      Fuck off. I removed (censored) the inflammatory comment from view, and pointed out where the submitter's original phrasing could be found. There is nothing wrong with this.

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      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday June 13 2016, @06:46AM

        by frojack (1554) on Monday June 13 2016, @06:46AM (#359203) Journal

        Apparently you aren't alone in the censoring.

        Even Obama agrees with you. [nypost.com]

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        • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday June 13 2016, @07:00AM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday June 13 2016, @07:00AM (#359206) Journal

          The President is going to wait more than 24 hours to allow investigation before laying definitive blame on ISIS? He didn't get into the specifics during a 5 minute press briefing? How #Sad!

          He called it a terror attack, he said it was "an attack on all of us", a phrase the NY Post writer used. What more do you want?

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          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Monday June 13 2016, @05:02PM

            by frojack (1554) on Monday June 13 2016, @05:02PM (#359448) Journal

            By the time he made his announcement, the terrorist already had been identified, his file found in the FBI Data base, which also documented his two trips to Saudi Arabia, his connections to a radical imam, and people had come forth with tales of his work place rages. Everything else except these rages were in the FBI files. Check the time lines on the stories. Even the FBI released information more damning well before Obama spole.

            But is that who Obama blamed? US.

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Monday June 13 2016, @08:01AM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 13 2016, @08:01AM (#359238) Journal

          We are not censoring - in fact, we are even bringing the original submission to your attention so that you can read it.

          However, the purpose of the story as published is to give the facts and details of the news. The place for comments, including political views or inflammatory remarks, is in the comments. While we do permit a small amount of leeway in this regard, as a matter of policy (and it is our policy, not the whim of a single editor) we try to separate the facts from opinions and publish the former, unless the formatting of the submission makes it very clear that they are the submitter's personal views. In this case, there was no clear formatting in the submission and therefor some irrelevant text was edited out of the published story, and new information which was not available at the time of the submission was added. Takyon was quite correct in bringing this fact to your attention so that you can read the original sub if you so wish to do.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday June 13 2016, @11:41AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday June 13 2016, @11:41AM (#359303) Journal

      Why doesn't wonkey volunteer as an editor to spare us all the backseat driving?

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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:17PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <{bassbeast1968} {at} {gmail.com}> on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:17PM (#358820) Journal

    An Islamic terrorist killed members of a group his skybully says are free targets....sounds like an execution to me.

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    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by frojack on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:38PM

      by frojack (1554) on Sunday June 12 2016, @08:38PM (#358829) Journal

      But the question was whether the police executed the terrorist.

      Try to follow the thread Hairyfeet. I know it can be difficult before the third cup of coffee after a night out partying.
       

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      • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Friday June 17 2016, @02:46AM

        by Hairyfeet (75) <{bassbeast1968} {at} {gmail.com}> on Friday June 17 2016, @02:46AM (#361378) Journal

        Uhhh I didn't think the obvious needed to be said because no shit the cops executed the bad guy...that is their fucking job!

        Do you see cops shooting bad guys in the foot or the hand like the lone ranger TV show? Of course not they empty the gun into center mass where all the vital organs are! If they manage to survive that its a nice bonus but its not like cops shoot to wound, its their job to stop the threat as quickly as possible and that means taking them out, simple as that.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:34AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:34AM (#359155)

      Hi. ACSJW here. Just testing.

      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Monday June 13 2016, @01:04PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 13 2016, @01:04PM (#359340)
        The results from your test are in: Your post was successful, but your credibility score clocked in at zero.
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        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:14PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:14PM (#359907) Journal

          Except, the results also show: Git. Yuup, git.
          Unsuccessful.
          Zero.
          git. :)

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