A suspected Islamic terrorist opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing 50 people and wounding another 53 before he was killed by police. While authorities continue to investigate to determine whether this man had ties to ISIS, the terror organization has not been quiet in praising the attack. This comes three days after ISIS announced they would attack somewhere in Florida. Today's attack marks the largest act of terrorism on US soil since 9/11.
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(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @01:40AM
Ahh, see there's the difference. McVeigh did what he did for political ideology; no religion involved beyond him possibly having beliefs at all. Islamic terrorists do it because their religion demands it of them.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Monday June 13 2016, @03:25AM
You're begging the question. We don't know that the guy in Orlando IS an Islamic terrorist. If his being vaguely Muslim and killing a bunch of people makes him an Islamic terrorist, then McVeigh is indeed a Christian terrorist.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @09:41AM
No, I'm going on reports of a man with an islamic name shouting "allahu akbar" and shooting a hundred people or so. If you're shouting about your god while you shoot people, it's safe for someone to assume you're religiously motivated.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Informative) by sjames on Monday June 13 2016, @04:01PM
The reports I've seen said the music was so loud, nobody even heard the guns, much less anything shouted or not.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @07:25PM
Possibly across the room. Not likely within easy range to put two in his chest and one in his head. .22s aside, guns are damned loud.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Monday June 13 2016, @08:32PM
That was the report anyway. No reports of him yelling anything, so no evidence there for your assumption.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:07AM
It was mentioned further up in the comments that he was yelling it. I'm not going to fact check for a hypothetical situation though; it's irrelevant.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday June 14 2016, @02:55AM
So I'll assume that was all hypothetical along with the claim that this had anything to do with Islam.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 14 2016, @03:14AM
The hypothetical bit was "if everyone were armed". Try and keep up.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday June 14 2016, @04:12AM
Sorry, you're in the wrong thread. Hit parent a few times and get up to speed.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @04:35AM
> Islamic terrorists do it because their religion demands it of them.
Nope. Their religious interpretation provides an excuse for them to act on their own prejudices.
Islam no more demands it of them than Christianity demands it of christians ala leviticus 20:13 [biblehub.com]
If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @09:32AM
Islam, as preached in many mosques, does in fact demand it and is precisely why this happens. Christianity, barring a few disavowed nutjobs, preaches only peace from the pulpit. Equating the two makes you look like a fool.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 13 2016, @11:28AM
> Islam, as preached in many mosques, does in fact demand it
In your wet dreams.
Compared to the daily evangelical fixation on LGBQT, the topic barely comes up in most mosques.
I doubt you've ever even been in a mosque.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 13 2016, @11:34AM
Oh? How many churches preach violence against the LGBTOMGWTFBBQ crowd? None. Not even Westboro and they're pretty much the worst of the lot.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday June 14 2016, @12:14AM
While traveling through the midwest, I did hear a radio preacher calling for the extermination of homosexuals.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday June 14 2016, @01:59AM
Should have got his name. That's illegal in this nation. Unlike, say, calling for the extermination of Jews or Americans in the middle-east.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.