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posted by martyb on Friday July 15 2016, @01:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-nice dept.

[Update: The New York Times has a story, Truck Attack in Nice, France: What We Know, and What We Don’t and an interactive map.]

LA Times is reporting:

A truck drove on to the sidewalk and plowed through a crowd of Bastille Day revelers who'd gathered to watch fireworks in the French resort city of Nice late Thursday in what officials and eyewitnesses described as a deliberate attack. The president of the Nice region says at least 75 people were killed and 50 injured. Eric Ciotti said on France Info radio that "it's a scene of horror." He said he was speaking from the scene.

Sylvie Toffin, a press officer with the local prefecture, said the truck "hit several people on a long trip" down the sidewalk near Nice's Palais de la Mediterranee, a building that fronts the beach. Wassim Bouhlel, a Nice native who spoke to the AP nearby, said that he saw a truck drive into the crowd.

[...] The death toll appeared to be climbing. Calls to interior ministry and police officials were not returned. Images circulating on social media showed grisly scenes of piles of bodies in the street. The president of the Provence Alpes Côte d'Azur regional council, Christian Estrosi, said in a message posted to Twitter that dozens of people appear to have been killed.

[...] The president of the region that includes Nice says the truck that slammed into revelers celebrating Bastille Day on the city's waterfront was loaded with arms and grenades, and that the driver of the truck has now been killed by police.

Christian Estrosi told BFM TV that "the driver fired on the crowd, according to the police who killed him."

PBS reports:

Police killed the driver "after an exchange of gunfire," Eric Ciotti, the ranking politician of the Alpes-Maritime department that includes Nice, told BFM TV, according to the AP.

Damien Allemand, a journalist for Nice Matin, wrote online that "an enormous white truck came along at a crazy speed, turning the wheel to mow down the maximum number of people."

"I saw bodies flying like bowling pins along its route," he said. "Heard noises, cries that I will never forget."

The truck jumped onto a sidewalk and rammed into a crowd watching fireworks for Bastille Day in the resort city. An eyewitness at the scene told the AP that after striking the crowd, the driver emerged from the truck and began shooting.

"There was carnage on the road," said Wassim Bouhlel, a Nice native who spoke to the AP near the Promenade du Paillon. "Bodies everywhere."

The truck plowed into the crowd over a distance of more than a mile, Ciotti said.

Additional coverage:
Associate Press
ABC News

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Friday July 15 2016, @11:38AM

    by Gravis (4596) on Friday July 15 2016, @11:38AM (#374846)

    Christians remain way ahead in the killing game of Christians vs. Muslims.

    The difference of religion is purely coincidental. We are fighting terrorists, not Muslims. Also, what you've omitted is that terrorists kill more Muslims than Christians.

    That's a long conversation fraught with invective and prone to bigotry.

    I agree but what you don't realize is that by framing this as "Christians vs. Muslims" that you are inviting that bigotry.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday July 15 2016, @12:14PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday July 15 2016, @12:14PM (#374859) Journal

    Don't be coy. You know it's framed as Christians vs. Muslims, and you know I am not the one creating that frame. Else, the rhetoric in the public discourse would not be about "Muslims," but instead would be about "terrorists" without specifying where the terrorists are from or what their religion is.

    Refusing to mention the bigotry does not make the bigotry magically vanish. Rather, it's tantamount to wishful thinking.

    Also, let's not pretend that the difference of religion is coincidental. There's very long history there between those two religions, and pretending that it doesn't exist or is beside the fact is, again, wishful thinking.

    I don't personally share those prejudices, but it's not realistic to wave your hand and pretend others don't. That practice abounds in academia, but it doesn't work outside the ivory tower.

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    • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Friday July 15 2016, @01:06PM

      by Gravis (4596) on Friday July 15 2016, @01:06PM (#374878)

      Don't be coy. You know it's framed as Christians vs. Muslims, and you know I am not the one creating that frame.

      Are you sure? The articles linked don't mention religion and only one quotes trump bullshit about muslims.

      Refusing to mention the bigotry does not make the bigotry magically vanish.

      Terrorists that have warped Islam, hate everyone that doesn't believe as they do. If you conflate terrorism with Islam then you are a fool.

      Also, let's not pretend that the difference of religion is coincidental.

      Warping a religion into a reason to do harm to others is nothing new for any religion. The problem isn't Muslims but that is how you seem to see it because that is how you present it.

    • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday July 16 2016, @02:39AM

      by jmorris (4844) on Saturday July 16 2016, @02:39AM (#375243)

      Actually, Christians aren't #1 on their hit list. Jews aren't either. Both are "People of the Book" and so long as they submit, pay the jizya, obey the rules on no steeples, crosses or other marking on their houses of worship, they get to live. Atheists, as in the authentic Progressive, Politically Correct Leftist though, they are the ones they will kill on sight without mercy should they win. The Pinkos ASSume thatt they can safely use the Muslims as a weapon and when they aren't useful tools anymore eliminate em as 'barbarian scum.' Would almost be worth letting them find out the horrible truth, but I'm Agnostic and they kill my kind just as fast so no thanks.

      Else, the rhetoric in the public discourse would not be about "Muslims," but instead would be about "terrorists" without specifying where the terrorists are from or what their religion is.

      No, that is the insipid bullshit Obama believes. When you have an enemy you have to be willing to at least admit they are an enemy. Unless you admit who you are fighting you can't form sound strategy to fight them. Terrorism is a tactic, not a faction. While it is true that currently almost all terrorists are Muslim, it has not always been so and probably will not be in the future. More important, what defense do you propose against 'terrorism' other than hunker down in a police state and fearfully watch everyone? Against Islamic Fundamentalism there can be both defenses and more important, lines of profitable attack. You can identify the principle leaders, track the funding, plan PsyOps against it, and generally get your hands around their throats.