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And the winner of the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, as reported by the major mainstream media outlets is Donald Trump. It has also been reported that Hillary Clinton called President-elect Donald Trump to concede.
Electoral vote count (so far): 279 for Donald Trump, 218 for Hillary Clinton. 270 electoral votes are needed to win.
Popular vote: 57,227,164 votes (48.0%) for Donald Trump, 56,279,305 votes (47.2%) for Hillary Clinton. Update: Now it is closer to 59,085,795 votes (47.5%) for Donald Trump and 59,236,903 votes (47.6%) for Hillary Clinton.
Yell, scream, gnash teeth... but please keep it civil.
Results at CNN, NYT, FiveThirtyEight, Wikipedia.
takyon: Republicans have retained control of the House and Senate.
Here's some market news:
Dow futures plunge nearly 750 points as investors warily eye electoral map
Asian markets plummet on likelihood of Trump victory
Bitcoin price soars as Trump pulls ahead
Opinion: How to profit from a Donald Trump victory
Ballot measure results will be covered in an upcoming story. Some initial results can be found at Ballotpedia and CNN.
[TMB Note: Stop breaking stuff, cmn32480]
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 09 2016, @09:16AM
People, Trump himself probably never expected to get this far. He's said as much, hasn't he, that if he wins he's basically going to "delegate" all the work to actual politicians?
Remember the last time we had a situation like that? That's right, Cheney and Dubya. Just like Dubya, Trump is gonna spend his term in office sitting around masturbating to his own reflection in the mirror and trying to figure out which color crayon tastes best.
Instead, we have as the Cheney analogue...Michael Pence. A young-earth creationist who thinks the Bible supersedes the Constitution, caused an HIV plague in his state that required federal intervention, and tried to pass a bill that would require mothers who miscarry to hold a fucking funeral for the dead fetus. The guy thinks The Handmaiden's Tale is a sex manual.
On top of this, we have a GOP Senate majority, AND a very weak Supreme Court. This could lead to the placement of anywhere from one to three "justices" who make Antonin Scalia look like Mahatma Gandhi. Know what happens in that case? Kiss marriage equality goodbye. Title IX? Into the circular file. Roe vs. Wade will almost certainly be overturned. We may even lose the Civil Rights Act, if it comes to that. Don't think it can't happen.
Then there's the cultural and memetic fallout of this ugly little kink in the hose of history. This victory has not only legitimized but mainstreamed the worst the nation has to offer. Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, the KKK, the Dominionists (read: "Christian Taliban"), you name it. Expect to see a massive uptick in police brutality and killings, riots, hate crimes, poverty, pollution, and Cthulhu alone knows what else.
This was our Reichstag fire. Kristallnacht is coming. We had the Beer Hall Putsch when Trump won the nomination.
And, you know, I can only blame the DNC for this. Every single criticism of the Democrats for having lost their soul in the 70s, for ignoring white poverty, for becoming a cloistered inbred human centipede of graft and corruption, all of it. Sanders was robbed. He would have kicked the unholy shit out of Trump tonight. Instead, the establishment elite put their interests above those of We the People, and paid for it in the most fitting way possible.
I just wish it wouldn't suck so fucking much for us little people :(
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 09 2016, @09:40AM
> Sanders was robbed.
Sanders lost the primary by nearly 4 million votes. Nothing the DNC did could have manipulated that many voters into voting for her over sanders. In 2008 Obama's margin in the primaries was less than a million.
(Score: 2) by tibman on Wednesday November 09 2016, @07:26PM
I don't think you did any research on that.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/588837/iowas-democratic-debate-air-right-middle-major-iowa-football-game--some-think-that-decision-purpose [theweek.com]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-clinton-debate_us_56fab426e4b0143a9b49561f [huffingtonpost.com]
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(Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Wednesday November 09 2016, @09:48AM
Thanks for making me laugh this morning, I needed it.
OK, it was that despairing kind of "Oh my God it's true" laughter, but laughter nonetheless.
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Wednesday November 09 2016, @10:47AM
A couple of months ago when it seemed Hillary had an unbeatable lead, Michael Moore expected Trump to win.
Yes, I blame the Democrats. How many times did we hear Hillary promise to create more jobs? Not even close to often enough. What did the Democrats do when they were swept to power in the aftermath of the housing bubble and market crash that happened on the Republican's watch? Did they fix Wall Street? No. Make banks refinance home loans at fair values and rates? No. The CFPB doesn't go far enough, not by a long shot. Leave Afghanistan? No, and wasn't that supposed to be the next step after taking out Bin Laden? Mission accomplished, let's go home? What about Iraq, when can we pull out of there? How about student loans, what did Democrats do about that? It is so exasperating to see the Democrats blow an easy victory. People are hurting, and they won't do things that really help. Jobs, you idiots, jobs! Really, Obama was lucky to win a 2nd term. If the Romney hadn't been thoroughly establishment, Obama might well have lost.
What we got was Obamacare. It wasn't enough. Martin Shkreli and Heather Bresch showed everyone just how far Obamacare falls short. Health care is still insanely expensive.
Now what do we do? Watch Trump set a record for fastest impeachment ever? Don't hold your breath. I had a sense that all the apocalyptic talk from the left was overly hysterical and plain wrong. More than a few suggested Trump wasn't a serious candidate, he was only running as a publicity stunt and couldn't possibly win the nomination, let alone the presidency, and was actually trying to sabotage his own campaign so he could go back to his gig. I thought about that one and concluded they were wrong, Trump would go the distance if he got the votes. And now that he's President Elect, no way in hell is he going to resign so he can go back to being a carefree billionaire, turn things over to Pence before he even takes the oath.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:17PM
> [...] Michael Moore expected Trump to win.
I came to post the link to his essay. He predicted a "Rust Belt Brexit."
https://web.archive.org/web/20160723202723/http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/ [archive.org]
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:56PM
No, and good, so. The RNC and DNC will be running scared from him. The DNC will fund-raise from the rubes and Establishment for it. The RNC will be hampered from doing that, though they will try.
If Trump somehow cobbles together a guiding ideology, then we might see lasting change of some kind in the system. But I bet we won't. He's not a system-builder. He's an egoist.
The worst thing the DNC and RNC could do at this point would be to openly oppose him. He'd translate his populist win into a jihad against the Establishment. His "drain the swamp" campaign rhetoric notwithstanding, he has no intention of disrupting business as usual.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @03:50PM
Azuma, that is such an apt summation of yesterday. I wish to god that the DNC had people with your insight informing their strategy. If they had they would never have gone along with Hillary.
We know now that there is no place in the Democratic Party for insight such as yours. And, no, the Green Party and the Libertarians are not alternatives. I wish there was a rebirth of the Progressive Party/Bull Moose Party to carry the banner of common sense, populist policy in America.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday November 09 2016, @05:31PM
It may happen but not for another half decade at least. This country is basically a drug addict who just hit rock bottom.
What really scares me is that I've seen this pattern play out over and over and over again throughout history, and it never ends well for the poor and minorities. History textbooks only talk about the major players in events like this; they never tell the truth, that "history" in reality is largely a record of hideous human suffering caused by ego, greed, and stupidity.
We had an article on this site not too long ago analyzing how the Demcoratic party lost its soul. This outcome is *precisely* what the party deserves, and under better circumstances I would be cheering. But what actually happened here is that the fascists, Dominionists, and corporatists took advantage -- AGAIN! -- of the sufferin, angry poor to seize power. All those Trump voters are going to be in for several nasty shocks in a row.
Personally, I am not sure I will survive much longer. I'm taking the early steps of fleeing this country, but no one says there will be a job waiting for me wherever I go. And the entire world's major centers of civilization are potentially in danger. I am considering "teach English in Japan" for obvious reasons, but...if China gets pissy, all that will end up doing for me is getting me vaporized by a nuclear bomb. Ditto going to South Korea.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday November 09 2016, @06:01PM
I don't know that any of us can say any different. Good luck in the effort. We have friends who have been hiding out in Japan since W. Bush's second term. You too could do as well.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @02:05AM
Unfortunately, there is no way Trump will get the party unity to make this happen. The muslims are here to stay, they breed quickly, they vote as a block, and ultimately they will be the ones dishing out Kristallnacht. We have perhaps 50 to 100 years left.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 10 2016, @04:53AM
Oh fuck the fuck off, you stupid bastard. You're not much different from the people you're villifying.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...