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posted by takyon on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:17AM   Printer-friendly
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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the demure firebrand who in her 80s became a legal, cultural and feminist icon, died Friday. The Supreme Court announced her death, saying the cause was complications from metastatic cancer of the pancreas.

The court, in a statement, said Ginsburg died at her home in Washington surrounded by family. She was 87.

"Our nation has lost a justice of historic stature," Chief Justice John Roberts said. "We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her, a tired and resolute champion of justice."

Architect of the legal fight for women's rights in the 1970s, Ginsburg subsequently served 27 years on the nation's highest court, becoming its most prominent member. Her death will inevitably set in motion what promises to be a nasty and tumultuous political battle over who will succeed her, and it thrusts the Supreme Court vacancy into the spotlight of the presidential campaign.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by martyb on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:39AM (63 children)

    by martyb (76) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:39AM (#1053136) Journal

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg served the country with dignity and honor. She has left a legacy that will hopefully serve as inspiration for many.

    That said, I can't help[ but wonder how her replacement on the bench will proceed. Some background taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Supreme_Court_candidates [wikipedia.org]:

    During his final year in office, Obama had an opportunity to fill a third Supreme Court vacancy, following the February 13, 2016, death of Associate Justice Antonin Scalia. On March 16, 2016, he nominated Merrick Garland, the Chief Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit to the Court. However, Republican leaders in the Senate announced that they planned to withhold voting on any potential nominee until a new president was elected. Senate Democrats responded that there was sufficient time to vote on a nominee before the election. Consequently, no action was taken on the nomination, which expired in January 2017.

    The Senate was unable to approve a Supreme Court nominee in over 9 months' time. Yet I get the impression that, somehow, a huge effort will be made to make a nomination and seek approval before the end of the year... or even before the November presidential election.

    The Constitution of the United States of America was designed to have checks and balances. Each of the three branches -- Judicial, Legislative, and Executive -- each had been assigned certain powers and responsibilities designed so that no one branch could prevail over the others. What happened?

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    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:47AM (21 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:47AM (#1053141) Journal

      This senate will have their nominee be the end of the month. You will rarely see them act this quickly.

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      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:49AM (20 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:49AM (#1053146) Journal

        Um... by the end of the month?

        Anyway, the senate and the president have already prepared. Might be ready before Monday

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:53AM (19 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:53AM (#1053151) Homepage Journal

          Well, to be fair, democrats have made a myriad of examples. Whenever there is a shooting, Dems and the media are clamoring for more gun control before the bodies have finished cooling. Never allow a good crisis to go wasted, right?

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          • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:04AM (7 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:04AM (#1053163)

            Just shut up you waste of space. Stop shitting your nonsense here, try and stick to tech stuff, your politics is unapologetic fascism and it is showing more and more every day.

            • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:09AM (6 children)

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:09AM (#1053168) Homepage Journal

              Your own politics are unapologetic stupidity. Please go back to school and learn what fascism is - it's not just a popular hashtag.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:42AM (5 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:42AM (#1053230)

                You abandon your oath to orotect this country and blatantly ignore fascist violations of constitutional rights because a small % of people have rioted. You should be ashamed, you goose step down the path towards Nazi Party 2.0 and have the gall to pretend it is opposite day.

                You are the embodiment of America's shame right now.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:29AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:29AM (#1053261)

                  You are the embodiment of America's shame right now.

                  Given that America has no shame, where does that leave Runaway? (grin)

                • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:06PM (3 children)

                  by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:06PM (#1053462) Journal

                  Only a small percentage of Germans were Nazis, you know. Does that exonerate Germans for WWII? Only a small percentage of Russians were responsible for the Stalinist purges. Does that exonerate Soviet Russia?

                  See, that only a small percentage of people have rioted does not exonerate the Democrats or the mainstream media for giving the rioters aid and comfort.

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:45PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:45PM (#1053531)

                    There's two or three orders of magnitude difference between your examples and the real situation. You act like a vanishingly small amount of people doing criminal things invalidates the completely legal protests. It doesn't work like that. The police are beating people down for expressing their first amendment protected freedom of speech, why aren't you angry about that? Governments have been doing that since the very first protest ever. Why aren't you furious, Mr. Real American?!

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:30PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:30PM (#1053574)

                      It is the continuing trick conservatives use even though they HAAAATE when it is used the other way. They have zero reslonsibility for the literal nazis and rightwing terrorists who murder people, but some protesters rioting makes them all baf.

                      Hypocrisy as usual, so damn tiring having the same argument over and over. Lime the rigious types who suddenly need an abortion so their abortion is necessary because they suddenly care about context. Self centered narcissism.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:49PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:49PM (#1053615)

                      fuck the cops and fuck the cultural marxist race traitors. i hope you all kill each other.

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:42AM (9 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:42AM (#1053197)

            To be fair, Republicans don't care how many bodies pile up so long as they can keep buying AR-15s to shoot protesters using their free speech to call for police reform.

            Is that actually a fair characterization? Not at all, but it's no more unfair than what you just posted.

            Right now, Republicans can push a nominee through if they so desire. But that will fly in the face of McConnell's refusal to even hold hearings on Merrick Garland back in 2016. Republicans could act in good faith and have the intellectual honesty to follow their precedent from four years ago. They won't. This will lead to a stronger response from Democrats when power shifts, something that's likely to happen in this election. If the Democrats take control of both houses of Congress and the White House, they could finish abolishing the Senate filibuster, push through legislation to expand the Supreme Court, and push through their own judicial nominees in response. If Republicans won't do the right thing, Democrats will respond in kind when the opportunity comes.

            Republicans may get a temporary advantage but it's a political blunder that will fire up Democrats. Democrats might have been inclined to move past McConnell's refusal to act on Garland's nomination in 2016. Fast tracking this nomination will ensure that doesn't happen.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:18AM (5 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:18AM (#1053291)

              And just where did anyone shoot protesters with AR-15's that was not attacked by protesters?

              • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:25AM (4 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:25AM (#1053321)

                Funny how murdering someone and running away makes people want to chase and disarm the murderer.

                But nice narrative you gots there, and if we don't restrict to only AR-15s then lots of protesters have been maimed and likely brain damage being shot with rubber bullets in ways specifically instructed to not do. As usual, fascists excuse their violence with flimsy excuses that never work the other way round.

                Get fucked fascist.

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:07PM (3 children)

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:07PM (#1053541) Homepage Journal

                  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Chase strange men with guns, get shot. Darwin awards are quite cheap, and easy to win.

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                  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:38PM (2 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:38PM (#1053580)

                    Says the guy who openly makes common cause with literal Nazis. If kyle dumbass doesn't get prison time then we'll see an explosion of confrontations used as excuse for murder.

                    You really are an evil shit whi feels self-righteous. The scariest of evils that radicalizes others with FUD. Go fuck yourself you traitor, you promoter of rightwing violence.

                    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @08:25PM

                      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @08:25PM (#1053662) Homepage Journal

                      Be my guest - confront an armed man with a skateboard. An explosion of such incidents would help to clean up America's streets. You can even recruit a kiddy diddler and a burglar to help you - not that they'll be much help.

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                      Don’t confuse the news with the truth.
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:50PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:50PM (#1054037)

                      the "Nazis" were the good guys in WW2. Deprogram yourself and learn about history (not written by the winners).

            • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:29AM (2 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:29AM (#1053324) Journal

              Is that actually a fair characterization? Not at all, but it's no more unfair than what you just posted.

              What's unfair about the characterization? Glancing around, it appears to take 6 or so hours tops for the human body to cool to ambient temperature. A lot can be said in six hours, but you're not likely to understand the particulars of a given shooting for days.

              • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:50AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:50AM (#1053342)

                Fuck you too, khallow. No one will have anything good to say after you pass, given your performance so far, as compared to the late Justice. This is why Republicans cannot be Supreme Court Justices. Cavanaugh is finding out. You actually have to know law, and stuff, and you can't just rape and pillage your way through the Consitution as Alito, Clarence, and that dead guy, um, what the fuck? A, Albesio? No, Andorrian? Nope. See, forgot justice Scalia already, because his jurisprudence sucked. To be a good judge, you must know the law, understand the law, understand the spirit of the law, and be able to write it the way RBG could do. Conservatives are too fucking stupid to be on the Supreme Court, so usually they either stop being conservative, as several have, or the shut the fuck up like Thomas Clarence, or die in their sleep, when God calls them on all their lying, like with Antonin Scalia.

                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:25PM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:25PM (#1053479) Journal

                  No one will have anything good to say after you pass, given your performance so far, as compared to the late Justice.

                  Sounds like it'd be a waste of time waiting for anything good to be said by you!

                  You actually have to know law, and stuff, and you can't just rape and pillage your way through the Consitution as Alito, Clarence, and that dead guy, um, what the fuck?

                  I find it remarkable how you can have such strong feelings about so little.

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:41AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:41AM (#1053334)

            Just fucking shut up you waste of protoplasm! Runaway, you are an idiot! Nothing you say makes any sense, or contributes to discussion, and we all just hate you and hope you die in a motorcycle accident, or a fire, or an industrial accident involving solvents and vacuum-formed Scandanavian garden power tools parts. For example.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:47AM (8 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:47AM (#1053142)

      Congress decided to cede most of their power to the President. It's been a long time in the making, and both parties are responsible.

      Whenever the majority of Congress and President are the same party, Congress gives some of their power away, because it's easier to give power to the President than to get things passed through Congress. This usually makes for some sort of short-term gain, in the form of some kind of nominee, executive order, favorable outcomes from regulatory agencies, etc. The trouble is that the President never gives any of the power back.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:55AM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:55AM (#1053153) Homepage Journal

        Exactly. As an example, look how the office of the president has accumulated a heaping dungpile of "war powers".

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:47AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:47AM (#1053233)

          And yet you support a candidate who loves every dictator in the world while crying wolf over a candidate who would be considered a regular Republican in the 90s. Identity politics is a hell of a thing, which explains why the Republican narrative tried to place that label on liberals. They may have had a small bit of truth in there, but as usual it is gaslighting hypocrisy as runaway makes so very clear as he prepares to vote for Trump.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:14PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:14PM (#1053515)

            Biden as a Republican? I'd like some of what you're smoking. Even before the primaries, he was definitely a lefty, and he's actually been moving further left since. He's no hard-left progressive, don't get me wrong, but trying to place him on the right is just idiotic partisanship.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:53PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:53PM (#1053534)

              How? He's against socialized medicine, he's a total warmonger, loves Wall Street... Why wouldn't Biden be a good (R)?

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:11PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:11PM (#1053544) Homepage Journal

              You should take lessons from our European members. They will readily tell you that we have two right parties.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:31AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:31AM (#1053325) Journal
          And emergency declarations. Last I heard, which is probably 10-15 years stale, there were about 40 ongoing emergency declarations supported routinely and explicitly by the US President.
      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:10PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:10PM (#1053466) Journal

        Whenever the majority of Congress and President are the same party, Congress gives some of their power away, because it's easier to give power to the President than to get things passed through Congress.

        Not when Democrats are in that position. That's the moment when they decide to throw it all away with infighting. For example, we could have had real national healthcare under Obama, but the Democrats threw away single payer because Max Baucus, a Democrat, blocked it.

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 19 2020, @10:40PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 19 2020, @10:40PM (#1053700) Journal

          the Democrats threw away single payer because Max Baucus, a Democrat, blocked it.

          He had to! That was the agreement. That is how the game works. Have one or two guys blow up the whole thing. The dems did the same thing with net neutrality. [gq.com] This is how it is always done [salon.com]. The intent is not to win, but to keep the game running. -- Count de Monet

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    • (Score: 3, Disagree) by fadrian on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:49AM (14 children)

      by fadrian (3194) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:49AM (#1053144) Homepage

      If the Republicans use replacement as one more finger poke in the Democratic eye, we'll all know the Cold Civil War has truly begun. The problem with Cold Wars is that they have a way of turning hot all too soon. And, to be fair, it's not clear the actual Civil War ever really ended so it'll probably just be seen by history as a resumption of hostilities.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:05AM (8 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:05AM (#1053165)

        What are you talking about -- the civil war has already begun. You can tell by the burned out city blocks and the VP Candidate pushing people to donate to, and donating herself, for bail funds for the foot soldiers.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:01AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:01AM (#1053212)

          I could tell the civil war has begun by all that Italian opera singing I hear all the time in the background. I think Damien will be showing up any time now...

        • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:09AM (4 children)

          by Magic Oddball (3847) on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:09AM (#1053255) Journal

          If it was civil war, then the rioters would be attacking Republican communities, not trashing their own.

          • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:19AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:19AM (#1053292)

            You don't understand what is going on. They aren't Democrats either -- Democrats moronically seek to ally themselves to the regressive left thinking that neoracism, censorship, authoritarianism, and looting are progressive, but the Democrats are shooting themselves in the head. The regressive left seeks to destroy every enlightenment principle, every liberal ideal that went into the fabric of this country and remake it into something else. They're telling you quite clearly: "Liberals get the bullet too" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3otTkPVMAEBiEb.jpg [twimg.com]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:52AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:52AM (#1053345)

            The Protesters managed to scare the "Karens" in Missouri! Even got them a spot in the RNC! To bad all their neighbors know they are just assholes, and lawyer assholes, Republican lawyer assholes. Am I seeing a pattern here?

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by crafoo on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:35PM (1 child)

            by crafoo (6639) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:35PM (#1053415)

            They try to get out of their containment zones. Bordering counties aren't having any of their shit though and the cops there do not answer to them, they answer to their local voters.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:42PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:42PM (#1053583)

              Every day shows how stupid you Republicans are. Very stupid, and dangerously violent.

              It is rightwing radicals who are going to cities to stir up violence with false flag attacks, who dtive around shooting people with paintballs and are lucky liberals are hair trigger pussies who shoot people when they get scared

              As usual we have hypocrisy and projection from Republicans no doubt inspired by Fox News' propaganda telling hou insane lies about how liberals are coming to get you. So you excuse all the actual rightwing violence and murder.

              You people make me sick.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:04AM (1 child)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:04AM (#1053270) Journal

          and donating herself, for bail funds for the foot soldiers.

          Did she donate to the Kyle Rittenhouse defense fund?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:37AM (#1053189)

        And the republicans will win again.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:34AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:34AM (#1053330) Journal

        And, to be fair, it's not clear the actual Civil War ever really ended so it'll probably just be seen by history as a resumption of hostilities.

        Sorry, it's quite clear the actual Civil War ended. The Confederacy ceased to exist, the former territory was completely occupied by the victor, and every significant military leader and unit surrendered at the time (in 1865).

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:40AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:40AM (#1053333)

        The new Civil War has already started. Democrats and the media are the new KKK [bitchute.com].

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:54AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:54AM (#1053346)

          You dare cite a crap site like that on SoylentNews! I mod you down for such impunity! Get thee behind me, Trumpster!

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:14PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:14PM (#1053468) Journal

        There's something that you, and many others, have not considered: Republicans are on the same side as the Democrats, which is to say, on the side of the Establishment/1%/Deep State. They are staying quiet about that because they're hoping to preserve their long con, that they're different from the Democrats, and outlast Trump. It's why the Establishment is desperately pulling out all the stops to prevent Trump's re-election, because then he just might have enough time to do them real damage.

        As far as the Civil War goes, it has already begun. We just don't have opposing armies lining up on the battlefield yet.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:55AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:55AM (#1053208)

      The Constitution of the United States of America was designed to have checks and balances. Each of the three branches -- Judicial, Legislative, and Executive -- each had been assigned certain powers and responsibilities designed so that no one branch could prevail over the others. What happened?

      There were originally four different power bases in the US system: the three federal branches plus the states. Thanks to the War of Northern Aggression, the states were eliminated as a check on federal power and are now almost entirely mere administrative districts of the now national government. The states now dance to the tune of the federal piper to get that sweet, sweet federal funding.

      The Congress originally had most of the power in the federal government, but with power comes responsibility, and responsibility might mean not being re-elected. So each Congress delegated more of its power to the other two branches, and also to the new power base that is the bureaucracy. The Founders thought each branch would jealously guard its power from the other two. They were wrong. Far easier for Congresscum to take the corporate bribes, er I mean campaign contributions, have the staff write whatever laws the corporations paid for, and spend all that cash on hookers and blow.

      Power now lies nominally with the President and the Court(s), but the bureaucracy is always the big player, as they control most of what the President knows/sees, and if no court case ever gets brought up the judges can't do shit. All those non-profits that the bureaucrats bop off to in between their government gigs? Most of them are the ones who pay for court cases that might get up to the Supremes. Do you have enough money to get a case up to the Supreme Court? No, no you don't. Non-profits do. That (along with tax dodging) is what they're for.

      I think that's what has constrained Trump the most. He knew (I hope) that he'd have to work with Congress and that judges wouldn't always judge his preferred way. I don't think he expected even most of the Republicans in Congress to hate him and not even have their staff work with him, and most of the judges to be Hawaii judges that just made shit up to rule against anything he tried. But most of all I think as a businessman he expected that the bureaucracy, or the executive branch's portion of it at least, to act like his employees and do what he told them to do. Nope. The bureaucracy does guard its power jealously.

      So, those checks and balances? Gone, baby, gone.

      When I was a kid, I often heard this kind of government we have (or used to have, or were supposed to have) referred to as "the American Experiment". Well, the experiment is over, and the results are in. It failed. Oh well... it was worth a shot. It's a shame it turned out this way.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:56PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:56PM (#1054044)

        and America the country is gone too. We gave it away through greed and stupidity. The sooner Whites realize this, the better. We need to form an ethnostate, but first we have to deprogram all of our brainwashed White brothers and sisters.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by legont on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:38AM (11 children)

      by legont (4179) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:38AM (#1053229)

      Liberals were winning for half a century, but now they lost; hopefully for another half. Life as it's supposed to be.

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      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:51AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:51AM (#1053235)

        lol

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:48AM (7 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:48AM (#1053251) Journal

        Liberals were winning for half a century

        Yeah? Which half? Which century?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:56AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:56AM (#1053348)

          I think it was the one where the ideal of liberal democracy kicked Conservative Nazi ass? And hung a bunch of those motherfuckers. Sounds like time to bring back Cap't America, dick-pics and all!

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by crafoo on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:38PM (3 children)

          by crafoo (6639) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:38PM (#1053416)

          A 2020 republican is a 1980s moderate democrat. Surely you are not this dense. It's a slow trudge towards communism since the 1930s. The majority in a democracy just vote themselves the wealth of the productive minority until there is nothing left to take. Them we all starve.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:43PM

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:43PM (#1053444) Journal

            The majority in a democracy just vote themselves the wealth of the productive minority until there is nothing left to take

            Nah, there's plenty for all. We just want a piece of the filthy rich. They aren't productive at all. They're nothing but casino gamblers. Real leeches. Bunch of thieves stealing our money for it. Gotta take it back.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:45PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:45PM (#1053585)

            You are insane.

            Are you old? A victim of cold wsr lropaganda?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:59PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:59PM (#1054047)

              You're delusional. Why do you think we have Cultural Marxists marching in the streets? It's due to the successful implementation of The Long March Through The Institutions.

        • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:08AM (1 child)

          by legont (4179) on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:08AM (#1053735)

          Witch one.

          --
          "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:54PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:54PM (#1054041)

            WooooWOWOWOWOWOWOW

            Republicans are back to Witch Hunting. I guess that was expected, they've been crying about witch hunts for years now so by the law of Conservative Projection they were just covering their asses.

      • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:23AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @06:23AM (#1053297)

        Democrats are not liberals, because censorship, looting, destroying, burning, due process free execution, endless war, and sucking Wall Street cock aren't liberal values. They're asshole authoritarian values.

        • (Score: 2) by legont on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:07AM

          by legont (4179) on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:07AM (#1053734)

          Exactly.
          However, one has to kick the label others would understand.
          Short version: all the whoever who are on liberal fake news are motherfuckers to be removed.

          --
          "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:38AM (#1053277)

      It's pretty easy if you take a big-picture look at it: judges became political.

      Quite a contradiction in goals / conflict of interest. To be fair and just, judges need to be neutral and decide cases based on existing laws. But the Supreme Court has much power and can effectively rule the nation, so, once again, politics.

      Kind of no way to fix that now.

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Sunday September 20 2020, @05:31PM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Sunday September 20 2020, @05:31PM (#1054000)

      The Constitution of the United States of America was designed to have checks and balances. Each of the three branches -- Judicial, Legislative, and Executive -- each had been assigned certain powers and responsibilities designed so that no one branch could prevail over the others. What happened?

      Simple: instead of being some kind of perfect, holy document as many Americans have been taught to believe, it's just not. It's a highly flawed system of government that really doesn't work well in practice. It was a good first try (well, 2nd try actually) back in 1787, compared to most other countries in the world which still had monarchies at that time. But 232 years later, it's been shown by other countries which do democracy better to be as buggy and broken as Windows Me.

      If you ask me, the US should simply scrap the Constitution altogether and adopt a system of government similar to Germany's: a federal system but with states having much less power, and a national government based on a parliamentary system. There's a reason Germany and Japan did not adopt the US system of government after WWII when they were reforming their governments under Allied control.

    • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday September 21 2020, @03:34PM

      by Reziac (2489) on Monday September 21 2020, @03:34PM (#1054463) Homepage

      For starters, the 17th Amendment happened, removing a major check on both Federal power and mob rule.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by nostyle on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:01AM (5 children)

    by nostyle (11497) on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:01AM (#1053160) Journal

    I saw "On the Basis of Sex", and from that and what I have heard about her over the years, few could match her erudition, tenacity, courage, stamina and brilliance. Our country has lost a true hero and champion for the rights of women. We will be hard-pressed to find her equal.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:25AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:25AM (#1053219)

      [...] We will be hard-pressed to find her equal.

      Not really. Try searching for a replacement in gynocentric Yakima, WA.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:01AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:01AM (#1053239)

        Trump will appoint Ivanka.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:18AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:18AM (#1053274)

          Well, Ivanka is a Jewish woman with children. She has no law cred, though. I doubt that even Republicrat Senators would abide it.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:18PM (1 child)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:18PM (#1053473) Journal

      What happens if Trump nominates a woman to the seat?

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      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:04PM (#1053507)

        She'll be labelled as "Hitler literally" and leftists will come out of the woodwork to claim they were raped by her.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:14AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:14AM (#1053172)

    I'm reminded that women who demand equality lack ambition and imagination.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Magic Oddball on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:13AM

      by Magic Oddball (3847) on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:13AM (#1053256) Journal

      When you're not at an equal standing in society, aiming for that is where you start, regardless of what your dreams or wishes for the future happen to be.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:06AM (1 child)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:06AM (#1053271) Journal

      That woman had the godlike power to stamp her name on the official interpretation on the Constitution of the United States of America.

      You can't even stand by your convictions enough to post under a pseudonym.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @02:25AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @02:25AM (#1053788)

        That may be, but I once allowed a pseudomonkey to lick my balls.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:18AM (22 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:18AM (#1053176) Journal

    This would explain this strange, nameless dread in the shape of "history is about to do something awful" that's been building up in me for a few months. This is a perfect shitstorm.

    The judicial branch of the US government is arguably its weakest link and most dangerous point of attack, since the founding fathers apparently for some reason thought its officials would be beacons of incorruptible pure pureness. This is what the forces playing the long game have been waiting for: a chance to stuff the judiciary. Because a rigged SCOTUS can effectively halt all forward momentum for 50 to 100 years. The Birchers are celebrating tonight, and all of us have just been thrown in the meatgrinder.

    Cassandra syndrome again! Shit like this is why I'm trying to get to Canada!

    --
    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:25AM (8 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:25AM (#1053182) Homepage Journal

      *yawn*

      I suppose a bit of drama, spiced with that mythical "women's intuition" can't make things any worse. It certainly doesn't make things any better. Tell us more about your nameless dread.

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      Don’t confuse the news with the truth.
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:46AM (4 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:46AM (#1053199) Journal

        Oh, you poor bastard...you're going to get what you think you want. That might as well be a curse up there with "may you live in interesting times."

        --
        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:52AM (3 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:52AM (#1053205) Homepage Journal

          Oh, GOODY!! We get a touch of far easter mysticism mixed into all the rest! You just can't get good entertainment like that from Hollyweird!

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          Don’t confuse the news with the truth.
          • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:00AM (1 child)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:00AM (#1053211) Journal

            "May you live in interesting times" is *Western,* you idiot. The story about it being a Chinese malediction is apocryphal. Christ, you don't know anything, do you? Just settle down and wait for what's coming.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:05AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @03:05AM (#1053241)

            May you live in Cleveland.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:09AM (2 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:09AM (#1053273) Journal

        Tell us more about your nameless dread.

        It is definitely not a nameless dread...

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:43AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:43AM (#1053278) Homepage Journal

          LOL, is that name "fascist", or "Nazi"? Come on, share the name, I want to hear it. "Trump"? Speak the name. "Conservative"? "Republican"? "Populist"? Tell us all the names of your dread. Amuse me, Monkey man!

          I'm reminded of this:

          “What keeps you awake at night?” CBS “Face the Nation” host John Dickerson asked Mattis.

          “Nothing,” a stonefaced Mattis responded. “I keep other people awake at night.”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTDG5OO9Y44&feature=emb_logo [youtube.com]

          Since I'm on Youtube anyway, enjoy this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXeLfMO9q4c [youtube.com]

          At about 3:07 -

          "Come to the nightmare, come to me"

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          Don’t confuse the news with the truth.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:13AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:13AM (#1053314)

          So... it's like Lord Voldemort. I get it. A dread that _shall_ not be named.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:34AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:34AM (#1053186)

      A sense of unease is what any rational person should be feeling at this point in time.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:39AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:39AM (#1053195)

        I sense a strengthening, such that if the democrats try to cheat with the election count too egregiously this year, there will be a conservative supreme court to check them.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:26AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:26AM (#1053221)

          [citation needed]

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by istartedi on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:48AM

      by istartedi (123) on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:48AM (#1053202) Journal

      Building up? To this? Nah, this is just one of many things on the list. Aside from that, just google what FDR tried to do to the Court. A Court that was frightened of FDR gave us some bad rulings, in particular Wickard v. Filburn that are still impacting us today, so the GOP is by no means the worst offender when it comes to the Judiciary.

      If anything, this might actually swing some people who are having 2nd thoughts about Trump putting his stamp on the country for the next few decades. A lot of people thought she had to hold on. Her passing at this time might actually push Biden over the line. It's odd how things work sometimes.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:36AM

      by c0lo (156) on Saturday September 19 2020, @04:36AM (#1053263) Journal

      This is a perfect shitstorm.

      You can take solace it the fact that a shitstorm is not more deadlier than a simple storm.

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
    • (Score: 2, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:54AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:54AM (#1053347)

      It's not the Supreme Court's job to "advance society." That's the legislature's job. The Court's job is to rule on whether or not a law is constitutional. Leftists hate democracy because the majority would not consent to their idiocy. Thus, the Left does an end run around democracy by having an unaccountable handful of people (judges) just decree new laws out of thin air.

      Democracy is a conservative thing. Leftists prefer rule by an unaccountable elite.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday September 19 2020, @11:56AM

      by Bot (3902) on Saturday September 19 2020, @11:56AM (#1053407) Journal

      I think something worse is brewing up but the US recent obsession with politically powerful mummies is a bad idea. Age is not a factor when choosing a president because it is all a matter of his staff and his financiers, but damn next time find somebody with a life expectancy of a couple decades.

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    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by crafoo on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:42PM (1 child)

      by crafoo (6639) on Saturday September 19 2020, @12:42PM (#1053419)

      People who have seen the evil of communism are celebrating today.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:48PM (#1053588)

        That doesn't make any sense.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:21PM (3 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:21PM (#1053475) Journal

      This would explain this strange, nameless dread in the shape of "history is about to do something awful" that's been building up in me for a few months.

      That's easy to fix: stop looking in the mirror.

      --
      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:51AM (1 child)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:51AM (#1053757) Journal

        Just asking out of curiosity: have I made you upset? You know, by pointing out to all and sundry in minute detail how every single thing you do trying to "prove you're 'one of the good ones'" is cynical, hollow, self-serving, virtue-signalling bullshit? All of it, from where you live to your supposed activism to your choice to marry outside your racial comfort zone and even have a mixed-race child? And how you're flinging yourself gleefully down the same death spiral of spleen-simmering mediocrity and misplaced white-boy angst that claimed Runaway a few years ago purely out of spite?

        'Cause it kiiiiinda looks like it :)

        --
        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:58PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @07:58PM (#1054045)

          Yes, people hate having their flaws pointed out. That is only human, but only cowards refuse to even acknowledge such flaws.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @08:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 20 2020, @08:06PM (#1054054)

        Seriously, you went from "weirdly conservative supposed liberal" to "obviously a Republican" over the last many years. Seems you fell into the white-man-martyr trap.

        Yes there are multiple problems with society, your obsession with Cancel Culture has valid concerns, but as usual it is identity politics at work where conservative cancel culture is normal and fine but liberal shaming is a crime against humanity.

        So many other things too. Being human you have flaws, but you also have strengths. You often have interesting and useful things to say when not on some topic you're overly sensitive about.

        Back to the topic at hand: "That's easy to fix: stop looking in the mirror."

        The fuck is wrong with you? Police brutality for centuries now, over the top violent racism and persecution until the last 50, and still pockets of it around with a whole lot more systemic racism. Wealth inequality growing to insanely unsustainable levels. Human rights violations, war criminals, and fascism rising in the United States.

        But ya, let us focus on Azuma and the liberal "cancel culture" shaming of racism, sexism, and general hatred. Yeah, if only people would stop pointing out those real problems then maybe they wouldn't seem like a big deal!!/s

        I guess it fits with the "Democrats made us vote for Trump" and other shit. Just excuses for your shitty behaviors.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:48AM (8 children)

    by linkdude64 (5482) Subscriber Badge on Saturday September 19 2020, @01:48AM (#1053201)

    The fools crying because she died because she was on "their side" are the worst sort of people. She was a brilliant legal mind, and though in her later years I do consider many of her views to be of the more "tyrannical" sort, ideologically speaking, like any hero of myth who eventually becomes corrupt, such is the way of things. Her honor is preserved, and rightfully so. She non-violently fought and worked to the bitter end in the name of her ideals - no throwing of molotovs for her, certainly. I wish I could say that I would like a "democrat" to be elected in her place, but the democratic party has simply lost touch, and balance needs to be restored. Ultimately, I hope a true centrist replaces her.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Kell on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:15AM (7 children)

      by Kell (292) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:15AM (#1053216)

      I appreciate your position, though I feel that centrism isn't enough because the elected no longer serve the people they represent. I feel that politics world over has become so polarised and entrenched with the interests of the wealthy that pretty much no major party of any stripe can be counted to advance the cause of the populace at large. I do not know what the solution is, but I think people everywhere need to start holding their political leaders to account to mitigate the widening inequality of society, the unaffordability of housing, limited access to healthcare and many other such ills. Our contemporary society can provide all these things to all citizens - we have the ability - but we tacitly accept that instead some people should be hyper-rich while others should die from lack. It's absurd and it should stop.

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      • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:53AM

        by RS3 (6367) on Saturday September 19 2020, @05:53AM (#1053284)

        the elected no longer serve the people they represent.

        I've felt that way for a very long time and have written so here many times. I don't know what the answer is. I've thought a People's Lobby might be it, but We the People are pretty scattered politically and ideologically, so I don't see us agreeing on a People's Lobby and its issues.

        So maybe Internet-based voting on all issues. We don't need to be a true democracy, but at least have an official count of who wants what, then maybe voters will do a better job of evaluating who really listens to their constituents (or not).

        I have to wonder if media in general is to blame. Not because of political bias, but because, and I think we all know it, politicians pander to the cameras and microphones. They do things and show up at events that make them look good. They have PR experts and writers and prompters and who really knows who any of them are now? They get caught saying outlandish things when they think the mics are off. It's all about show.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:32AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 19 2020, @07:32AM (#1053327)

        "limited access to healthcare"

        You are aware that emergency rooms must by law treat anybody regardless of ability to pay?
        The rest of your rants sound like you think the govt should take over everything (or give away "free" money, which amounts to the same thing).
        You want communism? Go to Cuba or Venezuela. Even the Russians don't do that shit anymore. China is still a totalitarian state, but they too have ditched some of their communist economics.

        • (Score: 2) by Kell on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:10PM

          by Kell (292) on Saturday September 19 2020, @02:10PM (#1053465)

          I've had both regular and emergency healthcare living in the United States and regular and emergency healthcare living in Australia. I choose to live in Australia for very good reasons, socialised healthcare is one of them.

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      • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Sunday September 20 2020, @06:34AM (3 children)

        by linkdude64 (5482) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 20 2020, @06:34AM (#1053846)

        "It's absurd and it should stop."

        You've seen what effect, globally, telling maybe 50% of working people to "just stop" has had. It's never the problem to point out what's wrong. The problem is *always* what we should do instead, and everybody seems to think that the answer to one of the most globally important questions could be summarized off-the-cuff by a teenager who has never held a job, never read "between the lines" in a book - as in, "Animal Farm is just a book about a farm with some stupid talking animals, why should I care?"-tier reading - never not had his days completely structured for him, with meals and spending money provided, etc. all in about 15 seconds. That's the level of complexity and resolution that everyone who eloquently and in strokes of linguistic genius critiques the capitalist system seems to have, when it comes to offering solutions. Without a hint of irony, I saw somebody post online yesterday, "I can't believe the forest service is so desperate that they have to charge $50 for a yearly fishing license - we aren't giving them enough money, and so now they have to charge citizens? That's ridiculous." You don't have the answer, nor do I, and until we do have the answer, I think the best thing we can do is do everything right that we possibly can, including elect the best possible leaders who we have, and have the best, most painfully open discussions we can have. Want a better world? Hug a Trump supporter. MLK was great because he didn't throw molotovs. Gahndi was great because he didn't throw molotovs, but who sells are the rebels like Che Guevara, who can be found on shirts found in US Malls, on sale for $25 - MLK and Gandhi are never on them. Everyone talks about the "right side of history" but that shouldn't be taken so lightly. The question should be: How high is the pile of bodies that you're willing to pile up before you reconsider your position? For the left, that number is greater than 30, if the riots are any indication. Oh, but their families may have had life insurance policies for them, so that's okay...For now, a centrist, not an ideologue who supports violence against your neighbors in revenge against a distant politician, would be the best solution.

        Left, right, or center, we need a justice in before the election to create an odd number on the court - if the election gets contested, it needs to fall one way or the other to avoid more meaningless deaths.

        • (Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:20PM (2 children)

          by Kell (292) on Sunday September 20 2020, @12:20PM (#1053899)

          You seem to have missed the part where I explicitly highlighted that I do not know what the solution is; I'm skeptical of anyone who has a pithy motto that supposedly will fix society's ills.

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          • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Sunday September 20 2020, @08:38PM (1 child)

            by linkdude64 (5482) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 20 2020, @08:38PM (#1054067)

            And you seemed to have missed my point where I stated that spending time on sophisticated but bloodless critiques of "The System" and seeding resentment with statements like "It should stop" is part of the problem.

            • (Score: 2) by Kell on Sunday September 20 2020, @11:55PM

              by Kell (292) on Sunday September 20 2020, @11:55PM (#1054148)

              I did not miss your point, but I disagreed with your thesis. Given that in the same post you highlighted the damage and death caused by bloody critiques, I'd say that sophisticated but bloodless critique is probably coming out ahead. Furthermore, I would hardly say I'm 'seeding resentment' so much as expressing my own identification of a problem (I have no illusions that I will change anyone's opinion in Soylent). If we do not critique our own society we have no capacity to change it; individuals expressing sentiments such as "This is bad and it should stop" is the societal equivalent of nociception: "Ow, I hurt. I should alter what I'm doing."

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