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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 06 2021, @10:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the stock-up-on-popcorn! dept.

2021-01-07 14:44:44 UTC: UPDATE (See below the fold).

Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress:

Supporters of President Donald Trump breached the US Capitol on Wednesday while Congress was meeting to certify the Electoral College's votes for president and vice president.

The Capitol has been put on lockdown and the certification vote has been paused. Vice President Mike Pence was evacuated from the building. House and Senate leadership is safe and in undisclosed locations, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Congress' counting of electoral votes is typically little more than an afterthought. But this joint session was expected to be a contentious affair that would last late into the evening and possibly on Thursday. Some Republicans are objecting to the count and delaying the inevitable certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Also at AlJazeera (In Pictures: Pro-trump mob storms US Capitol building) and c|net (Mob storms Capitol forcing halt of election vote count).

[2021-01-06 22:33:53 UTC; UPDATE] NOTE: This is a chaotic time.

The Electoral College votes are currently being confirmed and tallied. Runoff votes in Georgia are being tallied and the results may swing the balance of power in the US Senate. The Georgia secretary of state [has been] relocated from [State] Capitol for security reasons. Mitch McConnell goes off on Trump. Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer's computer. And Trump hand-picks replacement for Atlanta's US attorney after surprise resignation.

Let's please try and keep the discussion civil.

Also, please be polite and share your popcorn!

[Updates Begin]:

(1) Fox News reports Biden's Electoral College victory certified -- hours after Capitol chaos:

The U.S. Congress early Thursday certified the Electoral College vote that gave Democrat Joe Biden his presidential victory -- after a day in Washington that was marred by pro-Trump protesters storming the U.S. Capitol.

Vice President Mike Pence, who had announced he would not overturn the will of voters, confirmed the Biden victory at 3:41 a.m. ET.

Lawmakers had returned to the chamber in an act of defiance, with some Republicans who initially vowed to challenge states' results due to voter fraud concerns announcing they'd instead vote to certify.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called the breach of the Capitol a "failed insurrection," adding that those who "tried to disrupt our democracy" had not succeeded.

(2) President Trump "Responds" via Staffer's Twitter Account after His Account was Suspended:

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Electoral Certification:

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our...

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

...fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"

(3) Facebook, Twitter lock Trump's account following video addressing Washington rioters:

  • Twitter and Facebook on Wednesday said they would lock the account of President Donald Trump after he continued to make false claims about the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
  • Facebook, YouTube and Twitter on Wednesday removed a video by President Donald Trump addressing Washington rioters.
  • Meanwhile, calls are mounting for Twitter and Facebook to suspend Trump's accounts.

(4) The Associated Press has called the results for the Georgia Senate elections: both Democratic candidates defeated their GOP opponents:

With projected victories in the twin races of Warnock and Ossoff, President-elect Joe Biden will have the narrowest majority in the Senate, with both parties holding 50-50 seats apiece, allowing the tie-breaking vote to be cast by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.

Also at The New York Times.


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  • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:05AM (1 child)

    by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:05AM (#1096108) Journal

    The US constitution rather clearly defines treason, and waving a confederate flag doesn't count when the Confederacy hasn't existed for over a century. Insurrection, possibly. Sedition, maybe. Incitement to riot, probably. But not treason.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @09:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @09:58AM (#1096388)

    Wow

    "Insurrection, possibly. Sedition, maybe. Incitement to riot, probably."

    Let me fix that for you.

    Insurrection: an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government. definitely

    Sedition: A revolt or an incitement to revolt against established authority, usually in the form of Treason or Defamation against government. definitely

    Incitement to riot: no definition needed, obviously

    Treason: likely but this one is legally a bit trickier in the US. Here is what this site had to say about it https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/treason.htm [criminaldefenselawyer.com]

    From the Constitution - "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

    The elements of treason are the same under state and federal law:

            the defendant owes allegiance to the government, and
            the defendant intentionally betrays that allegiance by either
                    levying war against the government, or
                    giving aid or comfort to the government’s enemies.

    ------------------------------

    So your equivocations about what happened are a very bad look for you. Insurrection, sedition, and incitement to riot happened 100% by Trump, Giuliani, and the mob that stormed the capitol. Don't shy away from this, that is what happened. Come to grips with it, reject the rightwing terrorism brewing in the US, and help us safeguard our country from such attempted coups in the future.

    And yes, possibly treason depending on whether the mob's actions can be considered an act of war. They stormed the capitol with weapons and explosives, and whether the treason can be pinned on Trump with his weasel wording that leaves a legal sliver of doubt is yet to be determined.

    Believe your eyes and ears, stop listening to what Fox and their propaganda puppets Hannity and Carlson tell you to believe. Use that brain, read the definitions, and decide yourself.