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Time for a VI vs EMACS Discussion

posted by martyb on Monday February 08 2016, @05:12AM   
from the break-out-the-asbestos-clothing dept.

ghost informed us about:

Nothing warms the soul on a cold winter morning like a VI vs EMACS flamewar. But when was the last time you saw one? Kids these days, using their javascript-powered editors. And with VI and EMACS both eligible for Social Security, perhaps their fighting days are over. But fear not! A new generation of VI and EMACS is here to fight and fight and fight fight fight.

Neovim (github) is a VIM fork for the 21st century. Removing cruft (like support for the Amiga platform where VIM originated) and other updates.

Spacemacs (github) claims to be a "Mnemonic, Discoverable, Consistent, and Crowd-Funded" (vim and emacs) distribution. Confused? Me too.

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• Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? (Score: 2) by kbahey on Monday February 08 2016, @04:32PM

  by kbahey (1147) on Monday February 08 2016, @04:32PM (#300695) Homepage

  I tested a machine where vim is with default values, and it exits, so ! is there.

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• Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? (Score: 2) by Whoever on Tuesday February 09 2016, @04:00AM

  by Whoever (4524) on Tuesday February 09 2016, @04:00AM (#301161) Journal

  Try editing a file that you own and has permissions 400. You can exist and save with ":wq!", but not with ":wq" or "ZZ"

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  • Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? (Score: 2) by kbahey on Tuesday February 09 2016, @04:08AM

    by kbahey (1147) on Tuesday February 09 2016, @04:08AM (#301166) Homepage

    What I tried was:

    1. Opening a regular file (with read/write permissions to me),
    2. Add a line to it.
    3. Hit ZZ

    What happened is that it was force-saved and exited.

    The only equivalent to this is :wq! not just :wq.

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    • Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? (Score: 2) by Whoever on Tuesday February 09 2016, @05:50AM

      by Whoever (4524) on Tuesday February 09 2016, @05:50AM (#301208) Journal

      Did you actually try quitting with ":wq" (without the "!")? Because if you have write permissions to the file, you don't need the "!".

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      • Re:Who knows this command in vi/vim? (Score: 2) by kbahey on Tuesday February 09 2016, @01:39PM

        by kbahey (1147) on Tuesday February 09 2016, @01:39PM (#301402) Homepage

        You are right!

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