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posted by martyb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @01:56AM   Printer-friendly
from the is-a-Trump-tweet-called-a-Treet? dept.

You were warned. Now it begins.

Since the implementation of Twitter's new algorithmic timeline back in February of this year, conservatives, libertarians and anti-establishment dissidents alike have been waiting for the social media platform to interfere in the current U.S. election cycle. Now it seems that there is clear evidence of Twitter censoring the current Republican front-runner, Donald Trump.

A tweet sent from Trump's account at 3:04 PM EDT yesterday is not visible from his timeline, even when showing "Tweets and replies." That message included a video wherein Trump declared that "the establishment and special interests are absolutely killing our country."At the time of this writing, the tweet is still publicly accessible via a direct link and thus has not been deleted either by Twitter or by someone operating on the Trump account.

This archive.is link has a copy of the timeline taken before this article was published which clearly shows the tweet not appearing where it should be — between a tweet sent at 12:10 PM EDT and one sent at 3:27 PM EDT; it is possible that the tweet may be reintroduced to the timeline in order to hide the manipulation.

Today it's one Trump tweet, tomorrow it will be you.


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  • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @02:26AM

    by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @02:26AM (#337708) Homepage Journal

    OT, but a few weeks ago in church I was rather startled to hear our preacher talking about a world full of fear, and listing several headlines as examples, and then say "And then there's the fear that we might end up living in a world where Donald Trump is President!" Loved it, gasped in shock (talk like that is just not done at our church). It was all the more humorous because our preacher is Hispanic.

    Of course, I'm scared of all the others who might, win, too.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:20AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:20AM (#337770) Journal

    Your pastor ought to remember that the New Testament says to obey the secular powers, since they are given their right to rule by God. And if he doesn't want to pay taxes, he should shut up about politics.

    You ever wonder what "fornicating with the kings of the earth" means? It means religion getting involved with the temporal powers. Your pastor is being taken nuts-deep.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:36AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:36AM (#337794)

      Render unto Caesar?

      I always read that as "Caesar? Who the fuck is Caesar and why should God care what arrangements you have with him?"

      Maybe you're referring to something from Paul. I'm not much of a fan of him.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:04AM

      He ought to also remember that religious institutions are explicitly prohibited from endorsing a candidate if they want to keep their tax exempt status. Yeah, that's not what he did. It's dangerously close though.

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      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @11:02AM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @11:02AM (#337877) Homepage Journal

        For the record, he told me he got complaints. :) Though I'm betting that the people complaining were white church members, not Hispanic church members.

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      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @12:28PM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @12:28PM (#337890) Homepage Journal
        An observation. [soylentnews.org]
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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:27PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:27PM (#338006) Journal

          The 20th century fascists modeled themselves on your churches. You DO know Stalin had religious instruction and Hitler could have been a priest, don't you? And ol' no-elbows-no-knees-only-one-ball was never excommunicated from the Catholic Church?

          Your religion (its entire religious family really) is a fascist dictatorship. Yahweh is basically Kim Jong Un except he CAN hear your thoughts, and he runs an eternal, inescapable concentration camp full of fire and fear and pain and torture for what amount to his political prisoners.

          No, the Abrahamic religions have nothing inside them to stand up to fascism, aside from "yeah, well, it's not the RIGHT dictator!"

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          • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:33PM

            by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:33PM (#338010) Homepage Journal
            So church members shouldn't speak out against fascism, then?
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            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:37PM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:37PM (#338106) Journal

              As people you should, but it's an incredibly blatant case of Dunning-Krugeritis (and projection, and hypocrisy, and the pot calling the kettle black). Cruel, stupid, insane Gods make cruel, stupid, insane men. The only way most Abrahamic cultists can survive is deliberate ignorance of the implications of their beliefs.

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        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:13PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:13PM (#338167)

          For my part, I think I would rather my Church lose it's tax exempt status for speaking out against tyranny rather than sitting on our hands while demagogues run amok. Just sayin'.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2016, @02:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 28 2016, @02:50AM (#338253)

      Your pastor ought to remember that the New Testament says to obey the secular powers, since they are given their right to rule by God. And if he doesn't want to pay taxes, he should shut up about politics.

      You ever wonder what "fornicating with the kings of the earth" means? It means religion getting involved with the temporal powers. Your pastor is being taken nuts-deep.

      I'm not sure the NT is saying what you think it is saying. Jesus and John The Baptist were both executed by "secular powers" because they "spoke truth to power". Even in our modern times, Christian leaders have often been the ones to speak out against tyranny. Don't forget that Martin Luther King was a Christian preacher who was a member of the SCLC. Further back, the abolitionist movement was started by Christians. Do you really think they should have stayed silently "obedient" in the face of injustice? Really? How do you decide when they should speak up and when they should stay obediently silent? As a Christian, I think I have an answer for that. Do you have an answer that doesn't essentially boil down to "they should speak up, but only when I approve of the message"?

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 28 2016, @04:29AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2016, @04:29AM (#338274) Journal

        I can see all the assumptions you're making already: statist, fascist, atheist, none of which are true.

        Let me spell this out for you in simple terms: YOU DO THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMAN. If you need to be told to do the right thing because if you don't the Flying Canaanite Genocide Fairy is going to torture you in eternal flame, then brother, you are a shit human being, and I hope you die of something embarrassing and painful.

        Hasn't it occurred to you that within a few centuries of Yeshua's death, institutional Christianity became the very powers, the scribes and Pharisees, that he himself railed against? Sorry, but today, you and your buddies are the people he was warning us all about.

        What I wonder is, if you *weren't* a Christian, would you still do the right thing? What motivates you to do the right thing?

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:23AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:23AM (#337771) Journal

    Also? NO ONE whose career is based on "Kiss my God's ineffable ass or he'll barbecue yours for all eternity" has any right to be bitching about fearmongering, and that goes double for all of you death cultists. You people are quite literally motivated by infinite fear, infinite pain, infinite suffering. Your insane blood cult and its cousins (Islam especially) are responsible for most of the utter lunacy that goes on in this world. Worst part is, most of you are too damn stupid and un-self-aware to have even a glimmer of this surface in your minds.

    Which sucks because you actually seem like a halfway decent person :/ When you realize you excel your putative God in morals, maybe you'll wake up...

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:52AM (#337804)

      I grew up going to Southern Baptist churches. I never heard any fire and brimstone sermons (although my mom said she heard some growing up that scared her). It was all peace, forgiveness, faith, celebrate life, etc. I know some churches are still bad, and I know from my brother in law who was a youth minister for some time that behind the scenes all of the church volunteers instigated petty bullshit and pursued a much more conservative agenda. Growing up, I did hear some kids at school say some fire and brimstone stuff, but that's about all my exposure to it.

      The whole thing is kind of a struggle between people doing their best to find the best meaning they can in the beliefs they've inherited and people who can't get themselves untied from the bullshit they've inherited. Most of the New Testament is about righteously being unattainable, so the only path I can understand is trying to find the best meaning I can in what I've got.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:55AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:55AM (#337874) Homepage Journal

      Which sucks because you actually seem like a halfway decent person :/

      Given that, it might be nice if you realized that most of the things you are saying about my church aren't even close to true. For the most part we're a lot more like Fred Rogers than whatever you seem to have in mind about Christianity. Maybe I'm not the one who needs to wake up. And after all, you're much more intelligent than me, and you know that I can't be reasoned with... ;)

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:29PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:29PM (#338008) Journal

        I'm intelligent, yes, but also naively hopeful. I don't think you're completely irrational now I've seen some more of your posts, though I *do* think you're deliberately suppressing most of that out of fear of your murderous demon of a God.

        A veneer of civility does not mask, nor atone for, a soul full of corruption. Yeshua himself has a term for people and institutions like that: "whited sepulchre." I doubt very much that your seemingly-snuggly church is composed of Universalists.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @12:27PM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @12:27PM (#337889) Homepage Journal
      You know, churches really can't win for losing when it comes to speaking out against fascists running for office. Say nothing, and afterward they label you a collaborator and for years claim the fascist did everything he did in the name of Christianity. Say something, and people start complaining you should have your tax exemption status taken away or worse.
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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:31PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:31PM (#338009) Journal

        Well, that's what you get for Fornicating With The Kings Of The Earth (TM).

        Even the root of the word "holy" in Hebrew (q'd'sh) means "set aside" or "sanctified." No church worth its crappy wine and stale wafers should have anything to do with the secular powers aside from trying to undo some of the damage they've done via charity.

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        • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:42PM

          by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @04:42PM (#338014) Homepage Journal
          Saying "don't vote for this guy" or "don't vote for any guy" seems to me to be the complete opposite of lining up with the kings of the earth, though. So the preacher says he's scared of a world where Donald Trump is President, and I personally extend that to being scared of a world where any of them are President, and you understand that to be aligning ourselves with temporal powers? Is Trump your guy, then, or what? Because I'm not quite following your reasoning.
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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:35PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:35PM (#338104) Journal

            Don't Get Involved With Temporal Powers Period.

            This is not difficult. In the world but not of it, remember?

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            • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:44PM

              by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @07:44PM (#338109) Homepage Journal

              Don't Get Involved With Temporal Powers Period.

              Which would be exactly what we're saying, right?

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:27PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:27PM (#338169)

                Don't Get Involved With Temporal Powers Period.

                Which would be exactly what we're saying, right?

                If I understand Azuma correctly, they would just rather you shut up and not say anything. Free speech is for (almost) everyone. Except people Azuma does not personally approve of. I do hope this clarifies.

                • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 28 2016, @05:06AM

                  by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2016, @05:06AM (#338286) Journal

                  Oh fuck you and die, dipshit. You do NOT understand me correctly. I'm actually anti-censorship; indeed, I prefer idiots (like you, fuckstick) to have their idiocy plastered all over so it can receive the well-deserved rubbishing it demands. After all, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

                  Now have you got anything useful, constructive, or even not-window-licking-pants-on-head retarded to say, or did you just come here to troll?

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  • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:09AM

    by Whoever (4524) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @05:09AM (#337787) Journal

    Your preacher needs to watch what he says, or his tax-exemption will be in jeopardy.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:55AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:55AM (#337875) Homepage Journal
      If Donald Trump wins a whole lot more than that may be in jeopardy!
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @02:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @02:46PM (#337959)

        Former was a fact, ladder was an opinion expressed by you.

        • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday April 27 2016, @03:28PM

          by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday April 27 2016, @03:28PM (#337981) Homepage Journal
          Okey doke, thanks for clearing that up. :) It's weird that churches could lose their tax exemption for not speaking out against fascism, though.
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          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:44PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 27 2016, @10:44PM (#338176)

            Okey doke, thanks for clearing that up. :) It's weird that churches could lose their tax exemption for not speaking out against fascism, though.

            Look, to hell with the tax exempt status! As a Christian, I find it bizarre that anyone claiming to be a Christian would be so cavalierly OK with fascism just so long as their Church gets to keep all the money from the collection plates. Shouldn't we rather be far more concerned that something much more important is at stake? Shouldn't we? Really?!? Has the Christian Church sunk so low that we have become all about "I've got mine, to hell with the rest of you"? Yeah, I know that you, jdavidb, are not likely to be of this mindset, but I just have to wonder about all those people who self-identify as "evangelical Christians" voting for Trump in the primaries. Do these people really understand what it is they are voting for? Do they really? How in the hell do they reconcile what they claim to believe as Christians with what Trump says on the campaign trail?

            • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 28 2016, @05:09AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 28 2016, @05:09AM (#338288) Journal

              You're almost 1700 years late. The Council of Nicaea was the end of the Christian ideals you have in mind. It's been almost two literally-Goddamned millennia of this shit. Yes, the Churches, plural, have sunk that low, and they WERE that low when there was a Caesar unto whom what belongs to Caesar was to be rendered.

              The sad irony here is that even the worst Christian still excels his or her God in morals, character, and temperament :/

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