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posted by martyb on Saturday May 21 2016, @03:17PM   Printer-friendly
from the when-'no'-means-'yes' dept.

Two Soylentils wrote with a caution about a new strategy in Microsoft's playbook to get people to upgrade to Windows 10.

If you Click on the Red "X", You're Getting the Windows 10 Upgrade

That pesky Windows 10 forceware box...

This notification means your Windows 10 upgrade will occur at the time indicated, unless you select either Upgrade now or "Click here to change upgrade schedule or cancel scheduled upgrade". If you click on OK or on the red "X", you're all set for the upgrade and there is nothing further to do.

New Windows 10 Nag Screen May Trick 7, 8.x Users

Windows 7 or 8.x users that want or need to hold on to their current operating systems may be in for a very unpleasant surprise. Microsoft has essentially changed their Windows 10 update notification from a very pushy "opt-in" to an "opt-out". The new notification automatically schedules a time to receive Windows 10. Clicking the "X", as many have gotten used to, no longer prevents installation. Those that do not pay close attention to this new notification may inadvertently wind up with Windows 10 even if they did not want it. Very sneaky stuff.

Microsoft has published an offical article describing the changes.

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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 22 2016, @05:17AM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <> on Sunday May 22 2016, @05:17AM (#349404) Journal

    So until then just grab GWX or the excellent GRC never10 and call it a day.

    Here at the shop I've been TRYING to let the Win 7 machines upgrade to 10 so I could immediately roll them back (so the customer could choose to have the free upgrade later if they so chose) and I found out what I had always suspected...Windows 10 is a half assed piece of shit! I used to be able to fricking BRAG about how damned good backwards compatibility was WRT drivers on Windows, but like everything else MSFT completely fucked that up, now I find that a HUGE chunk of systems, despite being monsters with C2Qs and Phenom X4s and just piles of RAM and storage space,will NEVER run Windows 10...why? The network subsystem on Windows 10 sucks ass, that is why! All these systems will run just fine on Win 7-8.1 but if you install Windows 10, even if you use compatibility mode for the drivers? Nothing, its like the hardware doesn't exist.

    So my advice is if it didn't come with Windows 8/8.1? Its a total crapshoot and a good chunk of the Realtek, Via, and Nvidia network drivers simply will never work. Even the ones were it says it installed correctly are flaky as fuck and drop so many packets you might as well be on dialup, its just not worth the irritation for an OS that IMNSHO is frankly inferior to 7/8/8.1 pretty much across the board. The only nice thing I can say about Win 10? Is that it made the cost of Win 8 really cheap and with Classic Shell installed its actually a nice OS.

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  • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Sunday May 22 2016, @09:16AM

    by inertnet (4071) on Sunday May 22 2016, @09:16AM (#349457) Journal

    As far as I can tell the W10 upgrade throws away all the hardware settings and does a complete hardware detection routine. So all your manually installed drivers and all your carefully renamed printers are gone after an unwanted upgrade. I've had businesses call me on a Sunday, with panic calls like "nothing is working anymore and the boss is on vacation, please help". No family Sunday for you today, so now I just point callers to the roll back option I mentioned here earlier.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 22 2016, @10:50PM

      by Hairyfeet (75) <> on Sunday May 22 2016, @10:50PM (#349705) Journal

      I'm talking about installing the drivers AFTER the upgrade, where it acts like the drivers installed fine, reboot and...nothing, either the hardware doesn't exist or if it does exist its constantly dropping connections and throwing packets, so badly that only 1 out of the 6 I attempted could even stay on the net long enough to activate.

      So to all those that try to defend this OS with "But spyware equals conspiracy" bullshit? Even if you remove that argument completely it STILL SUCKS ASS, its buggy, its more likely to break something on update than a bleeding edge Linux distro, backwards compatibility is total shit, and one of the saving graces of windows, the fact that you could use previous drivers without issue? yeah that is gone bye bye.

      I honestly cannot think of a positive thing to say about windows 10 itself, its new "features" are nearly all shit cellphones do better, MSFT still thinks people want to cover their screens in nasty fingerprints to do shit that a trackpad can do just as well, its just an OS that makes no damned sense and with a metric fuckton of downsides.

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