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UK Home Secretary Theresa May is favored to become the new leader of the Conservatives and the UK's next Prime Minister following a first round of voting, the elimination of Liam Fox, drop out of Stephen Crabb, and the earlier drop out of Boris Johnson:
Home Secretary Theresa May has comfortably won the first round of the contest to become the next Conservative leader and UK prime minister. Mrs May got 165 of the 329 votes cast by Tory MPs. Andrea Leadsom came second with 66 votes. Michael Gove got 48. [...] Further voting will narrow the field to two. The eventual outcome, decided by party members, is due on 9 September. Following the result, frontrunner Mrs May - who campaigned for the UK to stay in the EU - received the backing of Mr Fox, a former defence secretary and Brexit campaigner, and Mr Crabb, the work and pensions secretary, who backed Remain.
[...] Mrs May - who has said she will deliver Brexit if PM - said she was "pleased" with the result and "grateful" to colleagues for their support. She said there was a "big job" ahead to unite the party and the country following the referendum, to "negotiate the best possible deal as we leave the EU" and to "make Britain work for everyone". She added: "I am the only candidate capable of delivering these three things as prime minister, and tonight it is clear that I am also the only one capable of drawing support from the whole of the Conservative Party."
Update: The race to lead the Conservative Party and become the next Prime Minister of the UK is down to two women: Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom:
Theresa May does - though - have the overwhelming support of Tory MPs, strikingly she has the backing of newspapers as diverse as the Mail and The Mirror and The Sun. So, say some, she's sure to win but, remember, that's what they said about the referendum, that's what they said before Boris Johnson endorsed Brexit, as he is now endorsing Leadsom. Johnson was clearly not impressed by Theresa May's declaration that Brexit means Brexit. He knows... she knows that the truth is much more complex than that.
Brexit - May says - will take time, will be complex, will need an experienced negotiator. Brexit - Leadsom implies - needs to be delivered fast, should be embraced and treated with hope and not fear.
Who should the country be ready for? That question will soon focus on much, much more than simply the choice between two different women.
Theresa May is no stranger to SoylentNews readers:
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Former CIA Director Michael Hayden Seemingly Supports "Brexit" For Security Reasons
Theresa May's Internet Spy Powers Bill 'Confusing', Say MPs
UK Home Secretary Stumbles While Trying to Justify Blanket Cyber-Snooping
UK Wants to Ban Unbreakable Encryption, Log which Websites You Visit
UK Government Ignoring Advisers to Pursue Ban on "Legal Highs"
UK Sheinwald Report Urges Treaty Forcing US Web Firms' Cooperation in Data Sharing
UK Home Secretary: Project to End Mobile "Not-Spots" Could Aid Terrorists
Open Rights Group To Take Government To Court Over DRIP
House of Commons Approves UK Emergency Data Retention Law
UK.gov Wants to Legislate on Comms Data Before Next Election
(Score: 1, Redundant) by frojack on Friday July 08 2016, @10:22PM
Seems the related story code might have saved Takyon some work. (But I have no clue how that works).
Any way, not knowing a thing about May, I seem to get the impression on SN that May is not well liked among the SN crowd, and a few other sites have more than a few disparaging words as well. Mostly grousing seems centered on digital freedom and privacy.
I'm guessing any opinions are enebaggaged with the usual liberal/conservative preferences of the poster, so it is with some trepidation I ask:
What say our UK Soylentels?
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(Score: 3, Informative) by tonyPick on Saturday July 09 2016, @06:05AM
Well she's also the main pusher of the Internet Surveillance bill, which proposes authorising hacking and tracking of every internet user in the UK by the police/security services without a warrant:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/35455343 [bbc.co.uk]
http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/03/theresa-mays-rehashed-investigatory-powers-bill-lands-in-uk-parliament/ [arstechnica.co.uk]
Also while Craig Murray is a bit too left-wing-conspiracy-theorist for me (which probably makes him batshit crazy as far as most posters here are concerned) he has this summary of what's not to like about May:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/07/theresa-may-new-islamophobic-prime-minister/ [craigmurray.org.uk]
(TLDR: The case of Abu Qatada, who spent nine years in jail, despite not actually being charged with anything. The insistence of the European Courts that he not be Tortured was, according to May, a good reason to leave the European courts).
(Score: 4, Insightful) by isostatic on Saturday July 09 2016, @09:29AM
What say our UK Soylentels?
We're fucked.
(Score: 2) by Gravis on Friday July 08 2016, @11:15PM
Theresa May is a fearmonger that hates and fears what she does not understand. Andrea Leadsom on the other hand is a dimwitted hatemonger. The UK is going to have a bad time in they elect one of them.
(Score: 2) by subs on Friday July 08 2016, @11:19PM
The UK is going to have a bad time in they elect one of them.
Don't worry, this statement will resolve itself soon enough when the UK dissolves because Scotland will have a second membership referendum and something tells me the result is going to go very different this time around, especially after the UK's economy takes a dump following the invocation of Article 50.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @03:26AM
That's certainly possible, but keep in mind that the Brexit referendum is non-binding. Should a government be elected under the leadership of, for example, Ms. May or Mr. Corbyn, such a government could deem its election as a mandate to not leave the EU. Should anti-Brexit sentiment strengthen--as perhaps it may already have done--failing to implement Brexit could prove politically advantageous.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @11:28PM
Trump vs Clinton for the UK, only this time there are actually women with tits involved? (I am assuming both the US contestants have tits, but denying that either of them is a woman.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @05:14PM
Not exactly, this story is about the question of who will take up the leadership of the Conservative Party. Whoever's chosen will temporarily be prime minister before the next election--and afterward, should the Conservatives win.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @12:19AM
> The UK is going to have a bad time in they elect one of them.
The UK doesn't get to elect them.
The paid up conservative party members vote on the two candidates selected by the MPs.
It'll never happen of course. We just had a referendum about rejecting lawmakers who han't been elected by the people.
No, just a minute..... that was mostly the same group now not letting the electorate select the PM. That surely can't be right?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 09 2016, @03:20AM
Really?
I wonder how come the support for Boris from Cove was retreated so fast and without any protest from Johnson, wasn't that surprising?
A coincidence May is the head of UK's NKVD? (home secretary [wikipedia.org] - internal affairs including police in England and Wales, matters of national security and MI5)
Cheers, mates, UK's Putin will be a female.
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @11:18PM
No doubt in their retirement, David, Boris and Nigel will be delighting us with paintings of dogs and Presidents of Russia and mowing thistles on their country estates (or whatever the British equivalent of clearing brush on the ranch is). Meanwhile the women (Theresa and Andrea) will be tidying up now the men have done the real work. I particularly like Andrea's stance on mental health checks for women = I hope she remembered to get her certificate of mental competency in time for the vote. It's just a formality, nothing to worry about.
Then after Maggie The 2nd has cleaned up, we can look forward to a triumphant Boris/Gove comeback. By that time the former UK will be sliced into 3 separate countries, each split 52-48 about what to do next. Austerity all round and mental health checks for women. Swarms of English graduates leaving their homeland will set up in the Calais Jungle seeking a better life. Oh to be young and full of vigor like the fresh-faced youth of England who voted Leave. The future is bright for them.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @11:32PM
Unsure if sarcastic--the youth tended to favour Remain. It's been said that giving the vote to 16 year olds would have tipped the result. However Cameron wouldn't do so because the under-18s would have been less likely to vote Conservative.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday July 08 2016, @11:35PM
Could Cameron have unilaterally allowed 16-year-olds to vote on Brexit? If so, he has failed miserably by not choosing to do so.
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(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @12:11AM
Not unilaterally of course, but as PM he has a great deal of influence. The House of Lords had approved having teenagers participate in the referendum; Parliament rejected it.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/625247/MPs-deny-vote-16-year-olds-EU-referendum-UK-European-union [express.co.uk]
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday July 08 2016, @11:52PM
mowing thistles on their country estates (or whatever the British equivalent of clearing brush on the ranch is).
Completely wrong analogy! Bush only bought his "ranch" (former hog operation) when running for office, only cleared brush for photo-ops, was afraid of horses, and sold the "ranch" immediately after leaving office. I doubt he has cleared any brush since. "All hat and no cattle" does not begin to cover how a New England Preppie could fake being a Texas rancher.
Do all British politicians have country estates? Why are they always in Scotland? And what kind of a name is "Skyfall"?
(Score: 2) by Whoever on Saturday July 09 2016, @02:11AM
1. No. Some have floating duck houses (seriously, google it [google.com]).
2. There are probably some historical reasons for Scottish estates. I suspect it has to do with the legal status of such estates. Also, land is probably cheaper in the wilds of Scotland than in England.
3. Something that only a Hollywood producer could come up with.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @05:19PM
Golf was invented in Scotland. That gives it tremendous cachet.
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Friday July 08 2016, @11:58PM
Leadsom didn't want gay marriage (I mean for anyone, not just herself) and wants to have a vote to bring back fox hunting. So she can fuck right off.
Hah. Her name is an anagram of "some dread anal."
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(Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Saturday July 09 2016, @01:27AM
Hillary didn't come out for gay marriage until braver souls and then mainstream souls spoke for it first.
As for fox hunting, it is as a valid protected cultural practice as Inuit whale hunting. Why is one wrong but the other protected by international treaty?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @02:48AM
They should both be banned. Dilemma solved.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by n1 on Saturday July 09 2016, @07:30AM
well according to a casual Google search, Inuit whaling is allowed because it is on a subsistence non-commercial basis which is directly linked to individual sustenance.
Fox hunting on the other hand is the landed gentry taking a fleet of range rovers and horses out to be cruel to animals for commercial gain and entertainment.
pest control of foxes is fine and legal, making it into a game is not.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @08:36AM
The Brits chose fox hunting, tax cuts for the rich, Eton/Oxford rule, the Queen, and crushing trade unions in their referendum. Nothing you can do about it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @01:21PM
That's not how the boxes were labelled on the ballot paper, therefore it is disingenuous to claim we choose it.
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday July 09 2016, @04:58PM
This was the inevitable result of a leave vote, and many people tried to explain this (and things like the pound falling through the floor, jobs vanishing, and the country being far worse off, and that's just in the first 2 weeks) but were shouted down for "scaremongering".
(Score: 3, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday July 09 2016, @10:23AM
As for fox hunting, it is as a valid protected cultural practice as Inuit whale hunting.
Is it bollocks. Inuit whale hunting is done for food and other subsistence needs.
Fox hunting is a blood sport. A bunch of posh wankers dressed up on horseback, blowing their horns, following a huge pack of hounds in pursuit of a single fox is not, in any way, a justifiable form of pest control.
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(Score: 2) by tibman on Saturday July 09 2016, @03:21PM
Pretty interesting to hear your commentary on it. We have a lot of hunting in the US but seems like it is rarely done by the wealthy. Bird hunting with shotguns, maybe? Though there does always seem to be some rich assholes wanting to shoot large predators for a trophy.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Dr Ippy on Saturday July 09 2016, @10:46AM
The real issue is that May is for staying in the EU whereas Leadsom is for leaving.
Presumably if Leadsom becomes PM she'll press the Article 50 button quickly, initiating the two-year process for taking the UK out of the EU.
However, if May becomes PM, her strategy may be to delay as long as possible. After 31 March 2017, Article 50 becomes subject to Qualified Majority Voting. (Not many people know this.) This means that the UK may not be allowed to leave the EU! It would need 14 countries to vote for Brexit, which is unlikely since the UK helps pay their bills.
Of course the UK could always leave via a unilateral declaration of independence, but that's not the British way of doing things.
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(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @04:11PM
Yea, that's what we need, another cunt in office. Democracy is garbage and needs to go. It helps women and only women, generally.
https://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9358677&cid=52476109 [slashdot.org]
>People should start thinking about the cost of what they want done for them and what they want done to their neighbors.
Women do not want males ruling over females nor marrying female children.
When MMAMAMAAALLLEEESSSSSSSSSSSS were in control men married female children and ruled over the woman as master. (Even in the born-cuntrry of americunt:
>In the United States, as late as the 1880s most States set the minimum age at 10-12, (in Delaware it was 7 in 1895).[8] Inspired by the "Maiden Tribute" female reformers in the US initiated their own campaign[9] which petitioned legislators to raise the legal minimum age to at least 16, with the ultimate goal to raise the age to 18. The campaign was successful, with almost all states raising the minimum age to 16-18 years by 1920.
)
If you read the hebrew in the book of Deuteronomy the man is refered to as master and he can also rape young female children and just keep them after paying the father some money.
Women do NOT want males to rule, so maaaaaaallllleesss are suppressed by the police.
There is no "people" here. There are women: mainly white women. White males are dogs: to work and support the woman, black men are "bucks" that the women ride for a good time. Hispanics... maybe she'll have a kid with him.
Every cunt has her work-male (white), her buck (black), and maybe a breeder (hispanic). That is America, that is europe (replace hispanic with arab). That is white CUNT society.
Oh and any white MMMMAALALLALALALALALALALAAALLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEE that goes for a sweet young girl of his own race: imprison forever being raped by some of the woman's imprisoned bucks.
Why white MALLLEESSS don't nuke the place I don't know: guess they're too dumb and easily manipulated by women (just like the gaulish men when fighting the Romans 2000 years ago)
>What kind of person sends the police after his neighbors who are minding their own business?
Women.
> Would a good person do that?
Women are good by default.
>What if you decided to be kind instead?
It is just a tool in her tool box.
>To forgive and be open? To be generous instead of self-interested? To understand and empathize rather than slur and dismiss?
Women will not give up their lofty position, they will not allow MMMAAALLLLEEESSS to rule over them and their young daughters again.